Carl Froch vs. George Groves III: The Final Say - 28 September 2019

[Ruthless-RKO]

Who has the final say?

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[dookus]

how come he didn't want to fight Ward when he retired

[TheGman]

Froch will have the last say cause alls he does is chetter chatter chatter. Thats if he doesnt nearly cry

[oogiebe]

Inactivity renders this alleged fight for Groves. Froch is dreaming. Been too comfy at ringside blabbing a mess for too long.

[Nightmare Roy]

Is this for real? I suppose it would sell pretty well, easy night for Groves I’d say, Froch has been out donkies years.

[jamamb]

its a speaking event guys, they r teaming up to make money on the 'night with' circuit now

[Nightmare Roy]

its a speaking event guys, they r teaming up to make money on the 'night with' circuit now

they makes more sense, probably be a good watch that.

[ThereByTheGrace]

Embarrassing. Paying to watch 2 gobshites! Not for me!

[SAPFO]

Ruthless_RKO is either Adam Smith or Eddie Hearn



!!! IMAGINE IF FROCH LOST !!!

You'd have to have a funeral to bury that ego

[stujones]

I favoured Groves in the rematch and people do forget just how well Groves was doing in fight 2 - was pacing himself better and seemed to be gaining some control before BOOM - BUT people might think I am nuts I would actually favour Froch now..... Groves has had more mileage (considerably) since then and doesn't look like he looks after himself now as well as Froch (which is not a bad thing, enjoy the retirement Saint George Groves)

George looked tired and just worn during the the Super Series. I actually changed my pick from Groves (comfortably) to Smith (who I am still not convinced about) just seeing them in the build up, final presser's etc. George always seemed to over do the training side of things in camp - it just looked like it was too long a camp and just looked like he over did it. He just seemed knackered in fight week and looked awful.

I actually think whilst his signature win was against Eubank Jnr, I think he was showing some wear and tear of a hard career with hard training before that. He didn't look great vs Jamie Cox and I think the Groves of a few fights before would have handled Chudinov a lot more comfortably than he did. For me he was never the same fighter after Gutnkneckt. I don't think it was psychological, but it was as if the hard camps were taking more toll after that. No I don't think Groves was "Cobra'd" - infact in hindsight his close lose to Jack (which many thought he won) was a pretty decent effort now we know how good Jack really was.... however I think Groves' best run was when he was fighting on Channel 5, in the early days with Shane - post Froch but pre World title.

Froch had some hard fights but retired after one of his better displays and I don't think looked visibly slower / fatigued to his days when he beat Taylor. I definitely feel when they both retired there was more in Froch's tank than George - but yes, Groves is younger and how has natural age slowed Froch down. But Froch looks to be living cleaner and ticking over.

I just also remember Maske vs Hill 2 - Maske 10 years out of the ring.... retired after losing DECISIVELY to Hill in fight 1. Hill was a world champion and had a decent career in those 10 years and Maske dominated the rematch. It was considered a mismatch the WBA refused to sanction it for the title and with good reason on paper - but undoubteldy those extra fights affected Hill more than Maske 10 years out of the ring.

[Steveh583]

I favoured Groves in the rematch and people do forget just how well Groves was doing in fight 2 - was pacing himself better and seemed to be gaining some control before BOOM

Didn't see it that way. I remember froch being the boss and appearing much stronger/in command the second time around. He seemed to be moving George into all the right positions. I may watch it again and reevaluate actually.

[stujones]

Didn't see it that way. I remember froch being the boss and appearing much stronger/in command the second time around. He seemed to be moving George into all the right positions. I may watch it again and reevaluate actually.

Froch started fight 2 well, but I thought Groves was coming back into it and had won the two previous rounds and was (if memory serves) winning the round before the KO. I had Froch one round up, but it looked like Groves was starting to get some control. He certainly fought a different way in fight 2 and I don't think had that nervous energy expenditure of fight 1.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I just also remember Maske vs Hill 2 - Maske 10 years out of the ring.... retired after losing DECISIVELY to Hill in fight 1. Hill was a world champion and had a decent career in those 10 years and Maske dominated the rematch. It was considered a mismatch the WBA refused to sanction it for the title and with good reason on paper - but undoubteldy those extra fights affected Hill more than Maske 10 years out of the ring.

Hill lost his belt few months later anyway.

Hill had 11 fights between the 2 Maske.

Lost a fair few fight too.

[ILikeBeer]

its a speaking event guys, they r teaming up to make money on the 'night with' circuit now

Yeah, it says that a few tweets in.

[leejonesjnr]

I would consider going to a sportsmans dinner with Groves but I wouldn't really want to go anywhere to listen to Froch speaking

[MarkMcBurney]

Froch started fight 2 well, but I thought Groves was coming back into it and had won the two previous rounds and was (if memory serves) winning the round before the KO. I had Froch one round up, but it looked like Groves was starting to get some control. He certainly fought a different way in fight 2 and I don't think had that nervous energy expenditure of fight 1.

I don't remember a great deal about the second fight but I do remember Groves wobbling Froch with a jab in round 7.

[Bigdogsnose]

Why the fornicate would Groves want to do this. Froch will have the last word because ultimately he knocked him out in the second fight. Imagine how much of a prick Froch will be. Groves must have made a fortune in his career, why does he want to retire, just to sit and listen to his biggest rival ridicule him in front of a live audience.

[ILikeBeer]

Will there be 80,000 people attending this?

[mickey1975]

Why the eff would Groves want to do this. Froch will have the last word because ultimately he knocked him out in the second fight. Imagine how much of a prick Froch will be. Groves must have made a fortune in his career, why does he want to retire, just to sit and listen to his biggest rival ridicule him in front of a live audience.

Probably about £5-6,000 a night for eating a dinner and telling we’ll rehearsed stories.

[Stuarty]

I would consider going to a sportsmans dinner with Groves but I wouldn't really want to go anywhere to listen to Froch speaking

True! I can't stick listening to him on Sky when I've had a few beers never mind listening to him waffle on when I'm trying to eat

[Bigdogsnose]

Probably about £5-6,000 a night for eating a dinner and telling we’ll rehearsed stories.

Aye, just with the money he has already made, wouldnt think he'd be arsed

[Roars Like Me]

Groves has been fighting ever since, only just retired. Froch is being a plum as Groves will get revenge here. Just leave it, you've had your nose straightened since you've retired too.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Anyone going to this?

[TheLeprechaun]

Two fights that Groves should have won easily.