Why doesn’t Eddie Hearn lobby the WBC to install Anthony Joshua as their mandatory challenger?

[Enlightened-One]

Assuming Deontay Wilder will never share the ring with AJ unless the purse split is 50-50, then why doesn’t Eddie Hearn lobby the WBC to install Anthony Joshua as their mandatory challenger?

This has happened before, when Kathy Duva passionately lobbied for Sergey Kovalev to be made the mandatory challenger for Adonis Stevenson's WBC belt, with a 50-50 purse split, which the WBC subsequently agreed to and even ordered purse bids.

I know that Krusher took the cowardly route, with his team flatly-refusing to participate in the purse bid process that Main Events requested, but I feel that the guys at Matchroom have far bigger balls and would attempt to win the rights to stage the title unification bout between Wilder and Joshua.

The other option is for Eddie Hearn to request the WBC to install an interim world champion or order two guys to fight for it, with the victor subsequently facing Anthony Joshua. The holder of this title would then become Wilder’s mandatory challenger.

We saw a similar situation occur when GGG captured the WBC’s interim title from Marco Antonio Rubio and subsequently became their champion when Canelo was unable to participate in contract negotiations within the specified timeframe.

Surely one of these approaches would bypass all the political barriers, assuming both guys are willing to a 50-50 split.

Thoughts?

[joshj909]

Other than it being alot of effort for it probably not playing off:

Purse splits.

[candyslim]

Al would never agree to it. He doesn't even trust Deontay to see off Dillian Whyte.

[Onetimeonly]

Eddie doesn't want the fight as much as aj and wilder do. I'm sure the wbc would do it, huge sanctioning fee. However, that wouldn't net the split they want. I'm sure wilder and his team would love it.

[Boxing Prospect]

Other than it being alot of effort for it probably not playing off:

Purse splits.

Yup, Wilder would get the lions share

[Enlightened-One]

Al would never agree to it. He doesn't even trust Deontay to see off Dillian Whyte.

As long as the WBC complies and orders purse bids, then Al Haymon doesn't really have a say in things, because Wilder would either have to take the fight or vacate his title.

Like I said before though, the WBC would have to stipulate a 50-50 purse split, like they did with Kovalev-Stevenson, and AJ has to be happy with that percentage.

This approach would bypass promotional/broadcaster rivalry issues, since the winner of the purse bid would dictate things.

The thing is... Wilder doesn't deserve a 50-50 split and I doubt AJ would agree to sharing things down the middle.

[candyslim]

Al Haymon doesn't have a say in it? Are you quite sure about that EO? Almost every WBC Heavyweight title challenger is PBC or else Don King's man, apart from Fury who was surely accepted on the basis of him being no threat to the cartel. Dillian Whyte is regarded as a very real threat which is why Sulaiman won't let him anywhere near a title shot despite him having paid more of his money to the World Boxing Conspiracy in sanctioning fees than Luis Ortiz, Dominic Breazeale, and probably most heavyweights who have challenged for their title in the last few years, all added together

I heard today that the guy who runs the Barclays Center, Brett Yormark is not only also affiliated to PBC/ Haymon Sports but also has a seat on the WBC Executive Committee. It sounds like a very cosy little arrangement if you ask me.

[ewenhay]

Eddie doesn't want the fight as much as aj and wilder do. I'm sure the wbc would do it, huge sanctioning fee. However, that wouldn't net the split they want. I'm sure wilder and his team would love it.

Yep. The Klitschko fight gave Hearn kittens. Things have been a lot more cautious since.

[KiwiRider]

The org is hand in hand with outsider interests, and corrupted by it.
I don't believe that AJ following their rules and paying the scantioning fees would result in anything apart from broken promises, delays, and what we shall now refer to as "Whyte" syndrome.
Depressing eh?

[jamamb]

his originally scheduled fights since wlad was pulev, parker, povetkin, miller....hardly some lowly tom schwarz or gerald washington wimpy kittens fest

[ewenhay]

his originally scheduled fights since wlad was pulev, parker, povetkin, miller....hardly some lowly tom schwarz or gerald washington wimpy kittens fest

But the reality is Takam, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz.

Wilder had bigger names on his original fight lists too before failed drug tests etc

[jamamb]

thats totally irrelevant when it comes to cautious matchmaking, josh was still matched vs those other guys

or do you believe matchroom conspired to have them replaced

ya i know, duh, lol i was never denying that wilder did (povetkin basically...i dont recall any other standouts who fell through)

[ewenhay]

thats totally irrelevant when it comes to cautious matchmaking, josh was still matched vs those other guys

or do you believe matchroom conspired to have them replaced

Takam, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz

Pulev, Parker, Povetkin, Miller.

Not a lot of difference really.

Let that sink in for a minute.

This is the unified heavyweight champion of the world we're taking about.

[jamamb]

ajs had a very consistently high level schedule. every one of those guys he was ischeduled to fight was top 5-10

and i mean lol jarret hurd as unified champ fought jason welborn

canelo fought rocky fielding and liam smith

ggg fought all sorts of cans and has steve rolls next

loma fought anthony crolla

crawford fought lots of b tier opposition

wilder fought gerald washington

omg let it sink in!

[ewenhay]

Is it any better than Stiverne, Ortiz, Fury, Breazeale?

[joshj909]

But the reality is Takam, Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz.

Wilder had bigger names on his original fight lists too before failed drug tests etc

Povetkin fight was rejected following the test, not cancelled by the commission...

Who else?

[jamamb]

i think its comparable. why do you think im bashing wilders overall opp either? that has nothing to do with my point

im just not really clear how matching aj vs povetkin , parker, pulev, and miller is some big downgrade pussy move

i mean why not fight tom schwarz then? we ve seen guys like hurd fight jason welborn as unified champ too

[ewenhay]

i think its comparable. why do you think im bashing wilders overall opp either? that has nothing to do with my point

im just not really clear how matching aj vs povetkin , parker, pulev, and miller is some big downgrade pussy move

i mean why not fight tom schwarz then? we ve seen guys like hurd fight jason welborn as unified champ too

I dont think Fury should be fighting Schwarz either but that's nothing to do with my point either. Schwarz isn't ranked and Fury isn't a belt holder, let alone unified champion.

[jamamb]

lol then why are you acting like aj vs those guys is some deeply sh!t schedule that 'needs to sink in?'

champs and high level fighters face worse all the time

and again, still no idea how miller, parker, pulev, povetkin is some big downgrad 'look, eddeh scurred, kittens!' schedule

[ewenhay]

lol then why are you acting like aj vs those guys is some deeply sh!t schedule that 'needs to sink in?'

champs and high level fighters face worse all the time

and again, still no idea how miller, parker, pulev, povetkin is some big downgrad 'look, eddeh scurred, kittens!' schedule

I said they'd been cautious since Klitschko and compared to who they could have fought I think they have been.

It's you who has the thin skin when it comes to Hearn and Joshua to the point where you can't accept any criticism of them whatsoever

[jamamb]

dont see it at all, they scheduled all the fights since klit vs top 5-10 opponents, and its proven they made a huge offer to ortiz (lol remember when you said pov was too old, but the even older ortiz wasnt )

not really cautious at all , and there are so many example of champs and elite fighters facing worse. ajs opposition doesnt 'need to sink in' unless you dont follow boxing

i couldnt give a rats ass about hearn btw, i dont even like dazn overall

[joshj909]

I said they'd been cautious since Klitschko and compared to who they could have fought I think they have been.

It's you who has the thin skin when it comes to Hearn and Joshua to the point where you can't accept any criticism of them whatsoever

Pulev > Takam - Mandatory
Parker - Unification
Povetkin - Mandatory

[jamamb]

hey ewey, are wilder and fury the only two guys in the world who aj could possibly be matched with who wouldnt be 'kittens' matchmaking?

although you said ortiz wwould be a good fight, and its proven he was offered 7m

[ewenhay]

hey ewey, are wilder and fury the only two guys in the world who aj could possibly be matched with who wouldnt be 'kittens' matchmaking?

although you said ortiz wwould be a good fight, and its proven he was offered 7m

It's OK. There's no shame in having bought the hype. Many others have too.

But let's not pretend that Takam, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz is a rogue's gallery. Nor Pulev or Miller either before you throw them back in.

[jamamb]

lol never said they were a murders row or anything like that

since wlad 4 straight fights scheduled vs top 5-10 opponents, including a unification. plus a confirmed great offer to 'good fight' ortiz.. omg let it sink in