Dogboe to quit boxing?
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Dogboe to quit boxing?
According to the boxer’s father and trainer, Paul Dogboe, the time was ripe for his son to pursue his education after a second humiliating loss to the hard-hitting Mexican in a bid to reclaim the title he lost last December.
Paul explained that it was difficult losing two straight fights against the same opponent, and that it would be appropriate for the former champion to consider a different career path.
In an interview with the Graphic Sports from his Arizona base, the trainer noted that he wanted his son to take a break from the ring and concentrate on his education until the hunger to fight returns.
The former British army officer, who singlehandedly guided his son from the amateur ranks to claim the world title with a stunning knockout win against the feared Mexican, Jessie Magdaleno in 2018, revealed also that he was willing to step back to get Dogboe a new trainer should he decide to come back to boxing.
“Oh yes, he will take a long vacation and continue his education and if that hunger comes back then he will come back to fight.
“I think I will have to get him another trainer if he decides to come back and fight because I can’t do this anymore,” Paul told the Graphic Sports hours after his son’s second career loss.
Paul explained that it was difficult losing two straight fights against the same opponent, and that it would be appropriate for the former champion to consider a different career path.
In an interview with the Graphic Sports from his Arizona base, the trainer noted that he wanted his son to take a break from the ring and concentrate on his education until the hunger to fight returns.
The former British army officer, who singlehandedly guided his son from the amateur ranks to claim the world title with a stunning knockout win against the feared Mexican, Jessie Magdaleno in 2018, revealed also that he was willing to step back to get Dogboe a new trainer should he decide to come back to boxing.
“Oh yes, he will take a long vacation and continue his education and if that hunger comes back then he will come back to fight.
“I think I will have to get him another trainer if he decides to come back and fight because I can’t do this anymore,” Paul told the Graphic Sports hours after his son’s second career loss.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Dogboe to quit boxing?
I know he's young, but hope he doesn't take too long out. He's not a bad boxer and kinda exciting.
Of course it's not good losing to the same opponent twice straight. His morale is probably low as well.
This seems like his father decision. He may never return.
Of course it's not good losing to the same opponent twice straight. His morale is probably low as well.
This seems like his father decision. He may never return.
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SenorPipino
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After the fight, Dogboe said he would move to 126.
So suddenly he's quitting?
I'm certain he'll return. Maybe with a new trainer. It might be a big help.
So suddenly he's quitting?
I'm certain he'll return. Maybe with a new trainer. It might be a big help.
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Hopefully he just takes some time and comes back soon. I agree hes talented and fun to watch. Id say loosing to the same person is kindof better than losing two in a row against 2 people of different levels. Navarrete is just better than him but he can still be better than a whole lot of fighters.
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I can’t imagine 122lb-ers receiving big paydays, even those based in the UK. So he may not have to take a significant financial hit to learn a new trade and change careers.
He’s already achieved more than most do in the sport, because held held a world title, considered a top-five world-rated fighter (ESPN & The RING), competed at Madison Square Garden and also engaged in five world championship bouts.
He’s far too small to make the jump to 126lbs to face much taller guys like Leo Santa Cruz and Josh Warrington. He may have already peaked and achieved as much in this sport as he is capable of achieving.
He is only 24 years of age and has plenty of time on his hands to start a new career or even make a comeback. He’ll probably return to the ring in a year or two though.
He’s already achieved more than most do in the sport, because held held a world title, considered a top-five world-rated fighter (ESPN & The RING), competed at Madison Square Garden and also engaged in five world championship bouts.
He’s far too small to make the jump to 126lbs to face much taller guys like Leo Santa Cruz and Josh Warrington. He may have already peaked and achieved as much in this sport as he is capable of achieving.
He is only 24 years of age and has plenty of time on his hands to start a new career or even make a comeback. He’ll probably return to the ring in a year or two though.
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This was worst than Maidana vs Broner.
Dogboe and his father are not humble persons, Navarrete gave them a lesson.
Dogboe always talked about himself in third person.
Navarrete was one of the best prospect of Zanfer Promotions, it was a huge mistake of Arum.
For a reason Rey Vargas ducked Navarrete.
Dogboe and his father are not humble persons, Navarrete gave them a lesson.
Dogboe always talked about himself in third person.
Navarrete was one of the best prospect of Zanfer Promotions, it was a huge mistake of Arum.
For a reason Rey Vargas ducked Navarrete.
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Dogboe's best Payday was 250 k, that's more than the best Payday of Gallo Estrada.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 May 2019, 11:27 I can’t imagine 122lb-ers receiving big paydays, even those based in the UK. So he may not have to take a significant financial hit to learn a new trade and change careers.
He’s already achieved more than most do in the sport, because held held a world title, considered a top-five world-rated fighter (ESPN & The RING), competed at Madison Square Garden and also engaged in five world championship bouts.
He’s far too small to make the jump to 126lbs to face much taller guys like Leo Santa Cruz and Josh Warrington. He may have already peaked and achieved as much in this sport as he is capable of achieving.
He is only 24 years of age and has plenty of time on his hands to start a new career or even make a comeback. He’ll probably return to the ring in a year or two though.
Arum said that Dogboe would be the next african star and a PPV fighter.
He fought in the co-estelar of the Lomachenko fight before the first bout against Navarrete.
He always had a lot of support, he is famous in social media, has a lot of fans.
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Don't think two losses to Navarrete is "embarrasing". Think it's more a case that he beats him every time, the clash of styles is taylor made for Nav to win every time.
He will come up against even bigger fighters, so that might not be the wisest move.
He will come up against even bigger fighters, so that might not be the wisest move.
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He's too good to give up because he lost to a really good fighter twice. I hope he can move down in weight and fight on.
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It's safe to say that Isaac Dogboe's chances of becoming a PPV star evaporated after both losses to Emanuel Navarrete. Those defeats would have also adversely affected his earning potential significantly.Susej_SOG wrote: ↑13 May 2019, 11:35 Dogboe's best Payday was 250 k, that's more than the best Payday of Gallo Estrada.
Arum said that Dogboe would be the next african star and a PPV fighter.
He fought in the co-estelar of the Lomachenko fight before the first bout against Navarrete.
He always had a lot of support, he is famous in social media, has a lot of fans.
In terms of his pay, he may have earned $250K for the first Navarrete bout, but he had to use it to pay off a mountain of debt he acquired due to staging the Cesar Juarez fight in his homeland and he'll no longer command anywhere near that figure ever again, since he’s no longer an unbeaten rising prospect.
If he chooses to resume his career in boxing, Dogboe is going to have to go back to the drawing board, get himself a new trainer and become accustomed to receiving reduced purses whilst he’s trying to recover his status in the sport.
It’s going to be a lengthy rebuilding exercise and he may never be able to become a world champion again or command the sizable purses he previously enjoyed. I hope he does it, but his chances are slim.
Also, an interesting article for you to read, where Isaac Dogoboe clearly supports my original claim about 122lb-ers not commanding impressive paydays, which were based on his thoughts of his earnings prior to his losses:
"WBO champ Isaac Dogboe feels financial rewards are lacking"
World Boxing Organisation super bantamweight champion Isaac Dogboe feels he is not getting the credit he deserves back home, despite "reviving Ghana boxing."
Dogboe successfully defended his WBO title against Japan's Hidenori Otake with a first round knockout on Saturday to widespread celebrations back home, but says he and his father Paul, who is also his trainer, have largely been neglected financially.
"We've lost a lot of money and we are in debt and it is reflecting on my father," Dogboe told local radio station Kasapa FM.
"They tend to forget the hard work he put in, where we came from and where we are today. He is not getting the recognition he deserves."
The 23-year-old became Ghana's youngest boxing world champion when he won the title in April, but he feels his success is not reflecting in a financial sense.
"We have revived boxing and we should not be on the losing end," he said. "We should have sponsorships, people willing to come in. We have put the nation on an international platform again.
"We have portrayed the nation in a positive manner. However, we don't feel like we are getting the credit we deserve. We have put our blood and sweat into reviving boxing in Ghana. What is the reward for that? Nothing."
Dogboe, who grew up in London before returning to Ghana to shape his boxing career, also feels his European education may have contributed to his lack of appeal within the Ghanaian boxing community.
"The Ghana boxing community and Team Dogboe, for some reason seems like there is a conflict between us," he added.
"I don't know where that is coming from and how that came about. Maybe it is because I am not from [boxing-mad suburb of Accra] Bukom, maybe it is because I am not one of the fighters who grew up fighting from Bukom, I don't know."
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You’re right. Not like he lost, then on his comeback fight lost again.Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑13 May 2019, 11:14 Hopefully he just takes some time and comes back soon. I agree hes talented and fun to watch. Id say loosing to the same person is kindof better than losing two in a row against 2 people of different levels. Navarrete is just better than him but he can still be better than a whole lot of fighters.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 May 2019, 14:28 You’re right. Not like he lost, then on his comeback fight lost again.
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true, though he did lose in even more one sided fashion this time
that said, hes still a guy who battered a solid fighter magdaleno, hes a good fighter but not as good as navarette
that said, hes still a guy who battered a solid fighter magdaleno, hes a good fighter but not as good as navarette
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Oh! And I thought you were making a sarcastic joke, so I was laughing WITH you! Never mind!
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Not sure Money is a Big Issue with Dogboe, He comes from Royalty in Ghana, https://face2faceafrica.com/article/fro ... -years-old
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Dogboe is a talented boxer. He just met a wrong guy in Navarette, He will be back
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Enlightened-One
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Read my earlier post in this thread. He was very recently in debt and this might still be the case - his words, not mine.1okstcsb wrote: ↑13 May 2019, 16:00 Not sure Money is a Big Issue with Dogboe, He comes from Royalty in Ghana, https://face2faceafrica.com/article/fro ... -years-old
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My Bad then, I just figured ANYONE who comes from Royalty even in poor countries are rich, example the Richest person in Venezuela is deceased President Hugo Chavez's daughter who is a billionaire in a country where most are starving, I figured Dogboe would be very well off.
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Dogboe still has a lot to offer the sport. Getting off the canvas to stop the unbeaten Magdaleno was epic!! Sometimes one fighter just "has someone else's number" and Navarrete had Isaac's number.
Ghana has a great boxing tradition with champions like Azumah Nelson, Ike Quartey, etc. Hopefully Dogboe will return to help continue that country's fistic legacy.
Ghana has a great boxing tradition with champions like Azumah Nelson, Ike Quartey, etc. Hopefully Dogboe will return to help continue that country's fistic legacy.
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Isaac Dogboe: My Next Fight Will Be At Featherweight
“Right now, I’d like to let everyone be aware that the super bantamweight division is very challenging for me to weight,” admitted Dogboe, although a bit of a surprising statement at just 5’2”, relatively smaller for the division. “My next fight will be at featherweight, I believe I will be much stronger at that weight. It’s a struggle to make 122.”
He said the above after the fight.
“Right now, I’d like to let everyone be aware that the super bantamweight division is very challenging for me to weight,” admitted Dogboe, although a bit of a surprising statement at just 5’2”, relatively smaller for the division. “My next fight will be at featherweight, I believe I will be much stronger at that weight. It’s a struggle to make 122.”
He said the above after the fight.
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He's very short but I don't think he's actually "smaller"Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 May 2019, 11:33 Isaac Dogboe: My Next Fight Will Be At Featherweight
“Right now, I’d like to let everyone be aware that the super bantamweight division is very challenging for me to weight,” admitted Dogboe, although a bit of a surprising statement at just 5’2”, relatively smaller for the division. “My next fight will be at featherweight, I believe I will be much stronger at that weight. It’s a struggle to make 122.”
He said the above after the fight.