The better chin ? Andy Ruiz Jr. or Dominic Breazeale ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 16 May 2019, 14:40

What do you think ?

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 16 May 2019, 14:48

They don’t have any significant common opponents yet, do they? So who the fück knows?

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 16 May 2019, 15:14

Ruiz hasn't really been cracked by a hard puncher- Brazeale has, that didn't go well

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 15:59

I don't know who has the better chin exactly, but Ruiz would be harder to drop because he has WAY better defense. Breazeale has virtually none.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 16 May 2019, 16:01

We'll know after this fight I suspect.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:04

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:01 We'll know after this fight I suspect.

Not really. They're not fighting each other, but I do expect Ruiz lasts longer against Joshua than Breazeale lasts against Wilder. I wouldn't be surprised if Breazeale is gone in 1.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 16 May 2019, 16:08

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:04 Not really. They're not fighting each other, but I do expect Ruiz lasts longer against Joshua than Breazeale lasts against Wilder. I wouldn't be surprised if Breazeale is gone in 1.

Given Ruiz's superior skill set, he'll last longer (maybe) and I'm sure we'll see him get cracked sooner or later in this fight. We'll see how he takes it. What round he goes won't have an impact on my opinion on whether his chin is better than Breazeale's or not. It's how he reacts when he's tagged.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:21

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:08 Given Ruiz's superior skill set, he'll last longer (maybe) and I'm sure we'll see him get cracked sooner or later in this fight. We'll see how he takes it. What round he goes won't have an impact on my opinion on whether his chin is better than Breazeale's or not. It's how he reacts when he's tagged.

Well you'll find out quick with Breazeale because he'll get tagged almost immediately. If Wilder wants to he can walk right out of his corner at the opening bell and finish it. I personally hope he does. I would imagine it'd probably be the best thing for him coming off a draw to just wreck a guy like that. Breazeale is the perfect foil. Wilder is no world beater, but he's superior to Breazeale in every single way.

Breazeale has power, heart and grit. It's enough to get it done against some guys, against Wilder...it ain't gonna get him sh*t but beat up.

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 16 May 2019, 16:22

i don't know, probably Breazeale

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 16 May 2019, 16:22

wilder is a world beater

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:23

jamamb wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:22 wilder is a world beater

He is when he beats Fury and Joshua.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:24

Unrelated note to the question, but for the record if Ruiz were to fight Breazeale I think i'd pick Ruiz to win by decision.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 16 May 2019, 16:26

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:21 Well you'll find out quick with Breazeale because he'll get tagged almost immediately. If Wilder wants to he can walk right out of his corner at the opening bell and finish it. I personally hope he does. I would imagine it'd probably be the best thing for him coming off a draw to just wreck a guy like that. Breazeale is the perfect foil. Wilder is no world beater, but he's superior to Breazeale in every single way.

Breazeale has power, heart and grit. It's enough to get it done against some guys, against Wilder...it ain't gonna get him sh*t but beat up.

I'm looking at the AJ/Ruiz fight for a comp. Breazeale facing Wilder won't tell me anything about the question of their chins. Different animal with Wilder.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:26 I'm looking at the AJ/Ruiz fight for a comp. Breazeale facing Wilder won't tell me anything about the question of their chins. Different animal with Wilder.

Yeah Breazeale has already faced AJ, and he lasted 3. Ruiz will go longer than that. Maybe not much longer, but he'll still be there at the end of the 3rd.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 16 May 2019, 16:29

dom went 7 vs 2 year pro josh, took a good beating

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 16 May 2019, 16:29

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:27 Yeah Breazeale has already faced AJ, and he lasted 3. Ruiz will go longer than that. Maybe not much longer, but he'll still be there at the end of the 3rd.

he lasted 7

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:30

dagilechia wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:29 he lasted 7

Really? Man I've almost completely forgotten that fight it seems. I was mixing it up with Eric Molina in my mind I guess

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 May 2019, 16:31

That doesn't happen to me I notice when discussing the early days of my Boxing fandom. Every detail of some of those fights is burned into my brain. To the point that I even remember where they were standing in the ring when a certain punch lands, and sh*t. But a lot of the current fights I only watch once usually so they don't tend to stand out in my mind as much.

tennessee · Post by **tennessee** » 18 May 2019, 23:18

Hope Ruiz has better chin, Breazeale cant even take one punch from Wilder.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 18 May 2019, 23:22

tennessee wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 23:18 Hope Ruiz has better chin, Breazeale cant even take one punch from Wilder.

Shows Wilder's power. Breazeale is one tough SOB. He proved that against AJ. He got caught with a perfect and powerful straight right on the button.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 18 May 2019, 23:25

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 May 2019, 16:04 I wouldn't be surprised if Breazeale is gone in 1.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 18 May 2019, 23:26

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 23:25

Nice call Gil!

Nondescript · Post by **Nondescript** » 18 May 2019, 23:26

Breazeale took an absolute beating off of Ugonoh and came back to win. Ruiz hasn't fought anyone with significant power.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 18 May 2019, 23:29

Nondescript wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 23:26 Breazeale took an absolute beating off of Ugonoh and came back to win. Ruiz hasn't fought anyone with significant power.

tbf, is ugonoh really a proven big hitter . i mean even joe parker as ktfoing lower level opponents, in some cases out cold

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 18 May 2019, 23:42

Nondescript wrote: ↑18 May 2019, 23:26 Breazeale took an absolute beating off of Ugonoh and came back to win. Ruiz hasn't fought anyone with significant power.

Are you trying to say Ugonoh is a more dangerous puncher than Joseph Parker? Wtf?