Wilder wants a body on his record..

[Onetimeonly]

Joshua is more well spoken than Wilder. He’s also lighter skinned and not American. He’s not going to
catch as much hate especially when he’s fought a less protected lineup of opposition as a whole. Before Ortiz and Fury Wilder had fought absolutely nobody.

I haven't seen evidence of it being racist. Just people who were so sure he was a fraud for so long(while he fought nobody) and they can't deal with the fact that he has heart for days and will now fight anybody.

[Best Coast]

Wilder got some great global publicity yesterday in NYC, where the Breazeale fight is being held. He had the honor of closing the daily trading session for the New York Stock Exchange on Wall Street in downtown Manhattan.

https://fightnews.com/deontay-wilder-br ... nyse/45838

WBC Heavyweight World Champion Deontay Wilder rang The Closing Bell at the New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday just three days before he defends his title against mandatory challenger Dominic Breazeale this Saturday on SHOWTIME from Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Wilder’s debut on Wall Street was as resounding as his performances in the ring. The American champion with a 95 percent knockout ratio broke the gavel during Wednesday’s ceremony to signal the end of the trading session on the NYSE. After a supportive cheer from traders on the floor, Wilder was assured that breaking the wooden gavel is considered a sign of good luck.

“This was a great experience ringing The Closing Bell and bringing the gavel down to close The New York Stock Exchange,” Wilder said. “It’s not every day you get to do that. It’s not every day that someone breaks the gavel at The Closing Bell. But I’m the heavyweight champion of the world and when I hit something it breaks. So that gavel was just like my opponents. Once I hit them right, they break and they’re never the same.”

None of the Wall Street officials or stockbrokers cried or whined because Wilder talked about breaking his opponents just like he broke the gavel at the NYSE closing.

[SenorPipino]

Is it still permissible to use the term "killer instinct" when describing a fighter's mentality.

Or will you be ordered to attend a hearing because you callously besmirched professional boxing's esteemed integrity?

[Onetimeonly]

Is it still permissible to use the term "killer instinct" when describing a fighter's mentality.

Or will you be ordered to attend a hearing because you callously besmirched professional boxing's esteemed integrity?

Maybe wilder and breazeale should have couples counseling after the fight. The puppet can mediate. What a bunch of pansies.

[Best Coast]

Is it still permissible to use the term "killer instinct" when describing a fighter's mentality.

Or will you be ordered to attend a hearing because you callously besmirched professional boxing's esteemed integrity?

Good one!! If Mauricio Snowflakeman has his way maybe they WILL declare "killer instinct" unacceptable!!

[Best Coast]

I think there's a big difference between Tyson's clear ridiculous remarks that would never actually happen, to Wilder stating his aim when he steps in the ring is to kill somebody, because it's legal in that setting.....
The fact it is a very real threat that COULD happen is key here.

No boxer should be entering the ring wanting to inflict long term damage to their opponent nevermind death! It's supposed to be a sport about respect and discipline. Wilders talk is anything but.

You obviously did NOT watch the entire 2nd video where Tyson clearly threatened Razor Ruddock's life, so I will post it again to help relieve your ignorance. It includes lots of other outrageous Tyson threats to journalists, opponents, etc. as well:

[Best Coast]

Boxing - tho it was once my sport - is ugly and I'm afraid it is becoming much more ugly. At least there used to be a show of good sportsmanship, and there still is, but not much in the USA.

Spare us your sanctimonious anti-US hypocrisy!! You can blather all you want about sportsmanship but you ignore the most recent assassination of a professional boxer on record. TItle contender Sergei Kobozev was brutally murdered by Russian mobsters.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Sergei_Kobozev

Kobozev was murdered by two reputed Russian mobsters, Alexander Nosov and Vasiliy Ermichine.

According to the Associated Press:

"Alexander Nosov and Vasiliy Ermichine were convicted Wednesday December 5, 2001 in Manhattan of racketeering in the death of Sergei Kobozev, 31, who immigrated in 1991 and lived in Brooklyn.

Prosecutors said Nosov and Ermichine were members of a violent Russian organized crime group known as the "Brigade" when they kidnapped and killed Kobozev in 1995.

Kobozev had been a captain in the Russian army and was a chemical engineer in St. Petersburg before he made his name as a cruiserweight on the Soviet national boxing team and later with 16 knockouts in a professional career.

The mob turned against Kobozev because he worked as a part-time security guard at a Brooklyn restaurant from which Nosov was ejected after a fight with a musician, prosecutors said.

Several days after the fight, the defendants and a third member of the gang unexpectedly encountered Kobozev at a car repair shop, where they confronted him about the fight before Nosov shot him, authorities said.

Still alive, Kobozev was put in a jeep and driven to the Livingston, N.J., home of a high-ranking member of the crime group, where his neck was broken by Ermichine after Kobozev asked to be taken to a hospital, prosecutors said.

His body was buried in a shallow grave, where it was found by the FBI in March 1999."

Natan Gozman, a third defendant charged in the murder, remained a fugitive until Feb. 2005, when he was arrested in Poland and extradicted to New York, where he was found guilty of racketeering, weapons and murder charges. Gozman is eligible to be released in 2013.

[Ilya Muromets]

Spare us your sanctimonious anti-US hypocrisy!! You can blather all you want about sportsmanship but you ignore the most recent assassination of a professional boxer on record. TItle contender Sergei Kobozev was brutally murdered by Russian mobsters.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Sergei_Kobozev

That "most recent" murder - not "assassination" - occurred almost twenty-four years ago. I have mentioned it here before. It occurred in the USA. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with what I said about sportsmanship before or the subject of this thread. Very stupid post.

[jamamb]

is that really the most recent, ive thought ive read about a few dudes in mexico or south america getting gunned down way more recently

[Ilya Muromets]

is that really the most recent, ive thought ive read about a few dudes in mexico or south america getting gunned down way more recently

Of course. Two more boxers that I believe were murdered and severely injured by criminals were the Venezuelan boxing sensation Edwin Valero and the Russian heavyweight Sergei Boytsov. How many more? Boxing is neck deep in the criminal element.

[Best Coast]

is that really the most recent, ive thought ive read about a few dudes in mexico or south america getting gunned down way more recently

The reason I specified most recent assassination is because assassinations are pre-meditated. I remember seeing something on the one you are talking about in Latin America/Caribbean (Puerto RIcan, Dominican, Mexican) but I think that was a crime of passion and not a targeted assassination. I know when Vernon Forrest was murdered in 2009 it was a random armed robbery where Vernon just happened to be in wrong place/wrong time.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, if it means that much to you.

[jamamb]

i think the style of some of the killings, like a guy in his car just suddenly being pumped full of bullets, seems like a pre mediated assisnation. maybe related to the drug trade.

i think thats how alejandro gonalzez died. he dropped carl frampton twice in a world title challenge not long before

[Best Coast]

Of course. Two more boxers that I believe were murdered and severely injured by criminals were the Venezuelan boxing sensation Edwin Valero and the Russian heavyweight Sergei Boytsov. How many more? Boxing is neck deep in the criminal element.

Valero hung himself in his jail cell, where he was awaiting trial for murdering his wife/girlfriend.

As for your "Sergei Boytsov" the only Boytsov shown in BoxRec files is Denis Boytsov who is still alive. (Retired for health reasons if I remember correctly.)

http://boxrec.com/en/search?eyI%5Bfirst ... derDir%5D=

Are you sure "Sergei Boytsov" isnt someone you just made up?

[Best Coast]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... death.html

A former boxing world champion hanged himself in his jail cell in Venezuela after being arrested for stabbing his wife to death.

Edwin Valero, 28, used the jogging bottoms he was wearing to hang himself from a bar in his cell, according to his lawyer, Milda Mora.

The boxer had problems with alcohol and cocaine addiction and struggled with depression.

He had previously been suspected of assaulting his wife and was charged last month with harassing her and threatening personnel at a hospital where she was treated for injuries.

Valero's 24-year-old wife, Jennifer Carolina Viera, was found dead in a hotel room on Sunday, and police said the fighter emerged telling hotel security he had killed her.

The former boxer was found hanging in his cell early yesterday by another inmate, who alerted authorities in the police lockup in He said Valero still showed signs of life when they took him down, but they were unable to save him.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

[Thomastearns]

You obviously did NOT watch the entire 2nd video where Tyson clearly threatened Razor Ruddock's life, so I will post it again to help relieve your ignorance. It includes lots of other outrageous Tyson threats to journalists, opponents, etc. as well:

Awesome stuff. Especially love the line, "You can't last two minutes in my world".

With Tyson all the lines became increasingly blurred post D'Amato / Rooney. At his best Tyson held up a mirror to the world and the world was scared to look.

Such brutal honesty is rarely seen in the sport of "fake ghetto millionaires". Like it or not, the rest are third rate actors, and that includes Wilder.

With Mike Tyson the world watched an epic drama unfold in front of their very eyes. A modern day Greek tragedy with all the trimmings.

[Fightnight Scores]

You obviously did NOT watch the entire 2nd video where Tyson clearly threatened Razor Ruddock's life, so I will post it again to help relieve your ignorance. It includes lots of other outrageous Tyson threats to journalists, opponents, etc. as well:

Thanks man......I admit I didn't see through the whole video you posted. Tyson said some pretty mean spirited sh!t, but there's always been that element of him being unhinged hasn't there?

[danconnollyeire]

If a racist wants to have a field day with someone do it with someone who deserves it. Like Broner.

No one deserves racism. Racism in any form is stupid, you're comment makes you a giant fvcking idiot. If you call Broner a flash pudendum, you're calling him a flash pudendum. If you call him the N-word then, by association, you're insulting all black people. You're as much a pudendum as Broner and he is one almighty pudendum

[Winter king]

I mean Tyson told Lewis hes gonna eat his children and crack his skull. I think this is all part of the game . Its distasteful but he is a boxer not a professor. If you think he should be banned or punished for this thn it works :P

[Bard of Boxrec]

Wilder already has plenty of ‘bodies’ on his record. Basically everyone except Ortiz and fury

[danconnollyeire]

Wilder already has plenty of ‘bodies’ on his record. Basically everyone except Ortiz and fury

And Ortiz was 89 at the time

[Ruthless-RKO]

As Deontay Wilder’s proclamations of wanting to kill Dominic Breazeale tomorrow night has gained more traction, even eliciting a response from the WBC all of the sudden, Wilder appeared on Stephen A. Smith’s radio show to explain why he has no problems with the things he says.

“What have I said that any fighter that has came before me hasn’t said?” Wilder asks rhetorically. “There’s one particular individual who said way more worse things than I could ever say in one sentence!”

The only person that immediately comes to mind is Mike Tyson. I’m assuming that’s who he’s referring to.

“I speak my piece. This is a sport where we sign up with. This is the sport that I signed up to do. I risk my life in that ring. So as me, as an individual, to risk my life for other’s entertainment, I can say whatever I please!..I’m doing this for other’s entertainment. People can take my words as what they want. If they don’t like it, don’t watch it. But nothing I said that ain’t true, nothing I said that hasn’t been said before. So why people wanna take it into consideration now?

“Look what’s going on in the world, Stephen A. People wanna put that energy towards the words that I say but look what’s going on in the world with so many killings going on right now. So many different brutalities going on right now but I don’t see nobody putting no energy and having no qualms to try to resolve that.

“How many innocent killings has been going on? Ain’t nobody putting any energy towards that but they wanna say something when I say [something]? Get outta here with that!”

[Ruthless-RKO]

Deontay Wilder on Breazeale clash: “The least I can do is pay for his funeral”

“If anybody thinks this is a game, you better close your eyes. If you’re there, bring a blindfold because this is going to be a tragedy,” Wilder said about his fight with Breazeale. “That’s the least I can do, I can pay for the funeral.”

[Onekrazyrican]

Is it still permissible to use the term "killer instinct" when describing a fighter's mentality.

Or will you be ordered to attend a hearing because you callously besmirched professional boxing's esteemed integrity?

Good point.

What about the nicknames? Off the top of my head I remember "The Baby Faced Assassin" "The Hitman" "The Easton Assassin" "Bone Crusher" "The Executioner" and im sure there are many others.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Good point.

What about the nicknames? Off the top of my head I remember "The Baby Faced Assassin" "The Hitman" "The Easton Assassin" "Bone Crusher" "The Executioner" and im sure there are many others.

The 'Bomber' Bellew..

At least Adam Smith explained that one.