Gennady Golovkin vs. Steve Rolls - June 8, 2019

[jamamb]

wouldnt mind it if he ktfo ggg tbh

[Enlightened-One]

Boxing in this country has about 500k die hard fans. Everyone here is one of them.

I bet less than 5 percent have ever heard of rolls

Yet there will inevitably be many GGG die-hards that will passionately fabricate a fictional reason to justify Golovkin’s decision to face Steve Rolls.

They’ll either maintain that Gennadiy’s peers are ducking him, even though GGG Promotions didn’t bother contacting any of his big-name rivals, or they’ll passionately argue that Steve Rolls is a legitimate world-rated opponent at 160lbs, like they embarrassingly pretended to claim that Vanes Martirosyan was one of the best middleweights the division had to offer for his mismatch against Golovkin.

GGG’s peers were often ridiculed by a certain set of fight fans for allegedly cherry-picking easy prey, yet the same set of individuals are highly-reluctant to express their opinions about Golovkin having faced Vanes Martirosyan and also his next fight against Steve Rolls.

[oogiebe]

wouldnt mind it if he ktfo ggg tbh

That would be hysterical!

[Enlightened-One]

Hassan N’Dam has today claimed that he had actually accepted the opportunity to face Gennadiy Golovkin and had even spent three weeks in training camp for the bout, but was upset to suddenly find out that GGG changed his mind, by deciding to face Steve Rolls instead.

This seems like a very weird decision for Golovkin to make, considering the fact a victory over N’Dam would be far more prestigious and credible than facing an anonymous and unheralded fighter like Steve Rolls.

Is GGG trying to maximise his own earnings potential by choosing to face the cheapest opponents available (with superficially impressive resumes) rather than more expensive genuine world-rated opposition?

I can’t think of another reason for Gennadiy to make a premeditated decision to willingly engage in mismatches, such as the Steve Rolls bout.

[Thomastearns]

After 8 years and 19 wins as a pro Steve Rolls remains unbeaten. Yet somehow remains unknown.

In his own words, "It is surreal. I'll be honest: I was thinking even about a month ago, 'Man, I feel like I'm one of the best-kept secrets in the middleweight division and I can't keep fighting the guys that I've been fighting. How do I get my name bigger?"

We'll, now he finally gets the chance to earn some real money at last. Just read that contract ($$$$) carefully Steve, not saying you haven't been managed brilliantly so far..

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[Ruthless-RKO]

Gennady Golovkin has never been the disagreeable sort but he seemed to be particularly content before an open workout Tuesday afternoon at the Churchill Boxing Club, a few-hour drive from his training camp in Big Bear.

New platform on which to fight, DAZN (a six-fight deal for a reported $100 million). New trainer, Jonathan Banks. New beginning. Triple-G is a happy man these days.

“I just feel very comfortable,” he said to a group of reporters in a small room above the gym. “I have strong people who stay with me, who just believe in me, and I believe in (them).
“… I’m enjoying a relationship that’s more true, not fake.”

The person to whom Golovkin was referring when he used the word “fake” was Abel Sanchez, his longtime and now-former trainer. The two reportedly split over money – Surprise! Surprise! – but Triple-G also accused Sanchez of being ingenuine.

“Abel at first said he feels like dad and son and the second time he said it’s only business. C’mon,” Golovkin said.

That led to a new partnership with Banks, the former trainer of Wladimir Klitschko who learned the ropes under the late Emanuel Steward at the Kronk Gym in Detroit. They’ve been training for five weeks for Golovkin’s fight against unbeaten, but relative unknown Steve Rolls on June 8 in New York City.

Golovkin is almost giddy about his work with Banks in Big Bear, the mountain town in which he used to train with Sanchez. He was asked to describe the difference in working with his former and current trainers. He chuckled and said, “a lot.”

Of course, one shouldn’t expect a significant transformation given his age (37) and success. At the same time, he discovered he can still learn new tricks.

He said he and Banks have been working on his quickness – “at my age, you know, you lose a little speed,” he said – and his technique, which Golovkin has embraced.

He said we should expect “more boxing, more strategy.”

“Jonathan doesn’t (teach) Abel’s stuff, he brings his own stuff, different stuff from Detroit, from that school,” Golovkin said. “He brings a lot of boxing. It’s different. I feel like a teenager going to a new school.”

“… It’s like a new sport a little bit,” he went on. “OK, boxing is jab, hook, uppercut. The three punches, that’s it. If you want to learn more, (you need a) new school. This is new.”

[boxing_rocks]

Hassan N’Dam has today claimed that he had actually accepted the opportunity to face Gennadiy Golovkin and had even spent three weeks in training camp for the bout, but was upset to suddenly find out that GGG changed his mind, by deciding to face Steve Rolls instead.

This seems like a very weird decision for Golovkin to make, considering the fact a victory over N’Dam would be far more prestigious and credible than facing an anonymous and unheralded fighter like Steve Rolls.

Is GGG trying to maximise his own earnings potential by choosing to face the cheapest opponents available (with superficially impressive resumes) rather than more expensive genuine world-rated opposition?

I can’t think of another reason for Gennadiy to make a premeditated decision to willingly engage in mismatches, such as the Steve Rolls bout.

N'Dam would be even bigger mismatch. Everybody knows that he is not on that level. He would be down in every round before getting stopped. At least Rolls is undefeated and is a black horse.

Why don't you blame Callum Smith for a premeditated decision to willingly engage in mismatches?

[Enlightened-One]

N'Dam would be even bigger mismatch. Everybody knows that he is not on that level. He would be down in every round before getting stopped. At least Rolls is undefeated and is a black horse.

Why don't you blame Callum Smith for a premeditated decision to willingly engage in mismatches?

You don’t know anything about Steve Rolls.

[boxing_rocks]

You don’t know anything about Steve Rolls.

No, I don't. But I know enough about N'Dam to say that he is a really bad mismatch for Golovkin or Smith.

[Enlightened-One]

No, I don't. But I know enough about N'Dam to say that he is a really bad mismatch for Golovkin or Smith.

You openly admit to not knowing anything about Steve Rolls, yet you’re adamant about N’Dam being a much worse opponent.

You’re portraying yourself as a liar! And that’s not my fault. You are the one making claims about a subject matter you know nothing about!

I know you’re a fan of GGG and will defend him at all cost, but please show some integrity.

Be honest, are you genuinely happy about GGG facing an opponent you’ve never heard of, whilst making no effort whatsoever to face superior opposition?

Golovkin is self-managed and self-promoted. He chose his own opponent, not DAZN. So who else is there to blame?

[oogiebe]

I see we're back to the usual lunacy.

[greg]

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Golovkin is self-managed and self-promoted. He chose his own opponent, not DAZN. So who else is there to blame?

I don't think there are that many fans who approve of GGG's next opponent, having said that one has to realise that whoever foots your bill usually plays major role in your decision making process and in this case it won't matter much whether you are self-managed, self-promoted or both..

[Enlightened-One]

I don't think there are that many fans who approve of GGG's next opponent, having said that one has to realise that whoever foots your bill usually plays major role in your decision making process and in this case it won't matter much whether you are self-managed, self-promoted or both..

And yet GGG himself claims he chose his own opponent.

Why are people fabricating excuses for a decision that Golovkin himself takes full responsibility for?

He’s a middle-aged man that is in complete control over his own destiny! He isn’t a naive victim that blindly follows orders.

Gennadiy is self-managed and self-promoted. He also clearly told the media he chose his own opponent.

He picked his own opponent. He replaced his trainer. He chose the network to work with. He took responsibility away from Tom Loeffler. He manages himself. He promotes his own fights.

So why is he immune from receiving criticism for his poor decision-making?

Who else is there to blame?

[greg]

And yet GGG himself claims he chose his own opponent.

Why are people fabricating excuses for a decision that Golovkin himself takes full responsibility for?

He’s a middle-aged man that is in completely control over his own destiny! He isn’t a naive victim that blindly follows orders.

Gennadiy is self-managed and self-promoted. He also clearly told the media he chose his own opponent.

..being or not being a middle-aged man has no relevance here...I believe I heard several interviews where GGG mentioned the decision was made in close coordination (not sure about the exact wording) with DAZN..

[Enlightened-One]

..being or not being a middle-aged man has no relevance here...I believe I heard several interviews where GGG mentioned the decision was made in close coordination (not sure about the exact wording) with DAZN..

DAZN didn’t pick Steve Rolls, GGG did. Gennadiy himself and Tom Loeffler confirmed this.

Golovkin chose a Canadian to encourage subscribers in that territory. He’ll probably receive financial incentives for increasing DAZN’s customer base.

That being said, Loeffler and Golovkin came up with their own list of opponents and they selected Steve Rolls.

For sure, like other broadcasters do, DAZN would have to sanction GGG’s bout with Steve Rolls, since they’re footing the bill, but Golovkin had the biggest say in who he fought next.

Do you need me to provide a video of this?

Golovkin chose the venue, the fight-date and the opponent.

You won’t find any proof of DAZN selecting Steve Rolls on GGG’s behalf, since none exists. It didn’t happen.

Golovkin himself has already taken full responsibility for the Steve Rolls fight.

[boxing_rocks]

You openly admit to not knowing anything about Steve Rolls, yet you’re adamant about N’Dam being a much worse opponent.

You’re portraying yourself as a liar! And that’s not my fault. You are the one making claims about a subject matter you know nothing about!

I know you’re a fan of GGG and will defend him at all cost, but please show some integrity.

Be honest, are you genuinely happy about GGG facing an opponent you’ve never heard of, whilst making no effort whatsoever to face superior opposition?

Golovkin is self-managed and self-promoted. He chose his own opponent, not DAZN. So who else is there to blame?

Your hatred clearly makes you dumber than you actually are. What I am saying is that it is better to have an unbeaten unknown (so possible pleasant surprise) that a known B level fighter easily defeated by Lemieux and stopped in Olympics.

Insisting that DAZN didn't approve Rolls is also dumb or hypocritical. If they didn't approve him, the fight wouldn't be happening.

[oogiebe]

Your hatred clearly makes you dumber than you actually are. What I am saying is that it is better to have an unbeaten unknown (so possible pleasant surprise) that a known B level fighter easily defeated by Lemieux and stopped in Olympics.

Yeah, an unknown provides some mystery and yes, can present a surprise, much as I doubt it here. But I agree with you on this.

[jamamb]

ndam wouldve been a defendable opponent to me, okay not great, but a longtime contender coming off a decent win. rolls is just plain trash, hes a shobox level fighter at best

no one is saying, ''oooh, the intrigue of how good rolls is ' are they? i mean ive seen him fight and he barely won a sd over some random guy

[Enlightened-One]

Your hatred clearly makes you dumber than you actually are. What I am saying is that it is better to have an unbeaten unknown (so possible pleasant surprise) that a known B level fighter easily defeated by Lemieux and stopped in Olympics.

I don’t hate GGG, but I loathe his choice of opponent for his next bout.

He is self-managed, self-promoted, picked the venue, picked the opponent and picked the fight-date.

He is primarily responsible for this situation.

My words might offend you, but everything I’ve written in the post is factually-accurate.

Are you seriously claiming otherwise?

Are you sincerely pleased about GGG facing Steve Rolls?

Am I being unreasonable for hating GGG’s opponent for his next fight?

Please answer those questions honestly and explain to me the reason why you think I’m being unreasonable?

Who else is there to blame, considering GGG himself has taken full responsibility for the Steve Rolls bout?

[boxing_rocks]

ndam wouldve been a defendable opponent to me, okay not great, but a longtime contender coming off a decent win. rolls is just plain trash, hes a shobox level fighter at best

no one is saying, ''oooh, the intrigue of how good rolls is ' are they? i mean ive seen him fight and he barely won a sd over some random guy

The contender who miserably failed against Quillin and Lemieux (his best opponents). Murray win is nothing. Murray is known to be unmotivated when there is no real title on the line. He lost to Khomitsky twice and was only saved by UK judges.

[jamamb]

he won 5-6 rounds vs both quillin and lem and has a decent list of wins, stevens, murata, murray, khurt, and a ko of the year, was also a 2x olympian

defo a better opponent then steve 'sausage' rolls

[greg]

DAZN didn’t pick Steve Rolls, GGG did. Gennadiy himself and Tom Loeffler confirmed this.

Golovkin chose a Canadian to encourage subscribers in that territory. He’ll probably receive financial incentives for increasing DAZN’s customer base.

That being said, Loeffler and Golovkin came up with their own list of opponents and they selected Steve Rolls.

For sure, like other broadcasters do, DAZN would have to sanction GGG’s bout with Steve Rolls, since they’re footing the bill, but Golovkin had the biggest say in who he fought next.

Do you need me to provide a video of this?

Golovkin chose the venue, the fight-date and the opponent.

You won’t find any proof of DAZN selecting Steve Rolls on GGG’s behalf, since none exists. It didn’t happen.

Golovkin himself has already taken full responsibility for the Steve Rolls fight.

Why would Golovkin care about encouraging subscribers in Canada? is there any PROOF of receiving financial incentives for increasing DAZN’s customer base?

My understanding has been all along that it was DAZN that in fact wanted to increase their base and that's the reason why they "helped" GGG take this particular decision..

I don't doubt Golovkin has officially taken responsibility for the Steve Rolls fight for fear of losing face I suppose...

[jamamb]

does anyone in canada even have any idea who steve 'jelly' rolls is??

i bet his wife wakes up each morning and be like 'who da f@ck are you?'

[oogiebe]

This thread has had more action than this fight will. GGG is going to Steam Roll, Steve Rolls.

[squiggy]

No one likes this fight. There isn't contention about it.