Gennady Golovkin vs. Steve Rolls - June 8, 2019

[greg]

does anyone in canada even have any idea who steve 'jelly' rolls is??

i bet his wife wakes up each morning and be like 'who da f@ck are you?'

[Enlightened-One]

Why would Golovkin care about encouraging subscribers in Canada? is there any PROOF of receiving financial incentives for increasing DAZN’s customer base?

My understanding has been all along that it was DAZN that in fact wanted to increase their base and that's the reason why they "helped" GGG take this particular decision..

I don't doubt Golovkin has officially taken responsibility for the Steve Rolls fight for fear of losing face I suppose...

So even if I provided a video of Loeffler and Golovkin confirming my claims, which I can do very easily, you won’t revise your opinion?

I don’t really enjoy engaging in discussions about faith-related matters, whereby beliefs cannot be disproved by real-world facts.

I’ll let you believe whatever you want to believe.

According to those that attend the “Church of the GGG”, Golovkin can do no wrong! Everyone else is to blame!

[greg]

So even if I provided a video of Loeffler and Golovkin confirming my claims, which I can do very easily, you won’t revise your opinion?

I don’t really enjoy engaging in discussions about faith-related matters, whereby beliefs cannot be disproved by real-world facts.

I’ll let you believe whatever you want to believe.

that's very kind of you as usual ...why don't you provide a video/credible link proving your claim there've been financial incentives GGG was getting to increase DAZN’s customer base in Canada..

[Enlightened-One]

that's very kind of you as usual ...why don't you provide a video/credible link proving your claim there've been financial incentives GGG was getting to increase DAZN’s customer base in Canada..

I can provide a video of Golovkin saying he chose Rolls because he was Canadian and it helps DAZN build their subscribers in that territory. His words.

Would that suffice?

You clearly haven’t researched this situation, which is the reason why I’m enjoying toying with you.

Be honest, do you genuinely believe that GGG is blameless for facing Steve Rolls next?

I look forward to your reply.

[greg]

I can provide a video of Golovkin saying he chose Rolls because he was Canadian and it helps DAZN build their subscribers in that territory. His words.

Would that suffice?

You clearly haven’t researched this situation, which is the reason why I’m enjoying toying with you.

...for starters backup your claim providing a link I asked you to..

[greg]

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Be honest, do you genuinely believe that GGG is blameless for facing Steve Rolls next?

I look forward to your reply.

quote me saying that?

[greg]

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You clearly haven’t researched this situation, which is the reason why I’m enjoying toying with you.

whatever keeps you away from toying with yourself is fine with me

[Enlightened-One]

...for starters backup your claim providing a link I asked you to..

I can provide a video of Golovkin saying he chose Rolls because he was Canadian and it helps DAZN build their subscribers in that territory. His words.

Would that suffice?

I wish you weren't lazy! I wouldn't have to keep educating you!

[Enlightened-One]

quote me saying that?

I don't doubt Golovkin has officially taken responsibility for the Steve Rolls fight for fear of losing face I suppose...

[greg]

you have to learn to read and avoid interpreting the way you want it..by the way that link above doesn't work..

[Enlightened-One]

you have to learn to read and avoid interpreting the way you want it..by the way that link above doesn't work..

Quote my post and copy the link into your browser.

I think that the forum has somehow disabled videos.

I’ve posted loads in the past and only my recent ones have failed.

[SenorPipino]

I have no link to provide since it's just my opinion.

But it does seem likely that if DAZN invests $100 million into a fighter, it means that the company demands some input into the choice of opponents.

Golovkin and Loeffler might have provided DAZN with a list of prospective opponents, that included Rolls.

But the company probably had the option to shoot down any one of them if it felt the opponent simply couldn't be sold or justified.

Just as DAZN wanted Joshua unveiled in America and would only accept an American or American based challenger.

It's just unrealistic to believe DAZN doesn't get involved in product control. Not when it's handing out a fortune in contracts.

[greg]

Quote my post and copy the link into your browser.

I think that the forum has somehow disabled videos.

I’ve posted loads in the past and only my recent ones have failed.

ffs dude! the caption of this video is "GOLOVKIN REVEALS REAL REASON WHY STEVE ROLLS WAS SELECTED BY DAZN"

[Enlightened-One]

ffs dude! the caption of this video is "GOLOVKIN REVEALS REAL REASON WHY STEVE ROLLS WAS SELECTED BY DAZN"

Watch the video and listen to his actual words.

Loeffler and Golovkin clearly state that they chose Rolls, because he was Canadian.

They then detailed other fighters they considered.

Play the video back two or three times if you don’t believe me.

[greg]

Watch the video and listen to his actual words.

Loeffler and Golovkin clearly state that they chose Rolls, because he was Canadian.

..DAZN as their "employer" helped them chose Canadian..next time you should at least read the caption..incidentally that's NOT the link I expected...

[Enlightened-One]

..DAZN as their "employer" helped them chose Canadian..next time you should at least read the caption..incidentally that's NOT the link I expected...

The caption is meaningless. Loeffler and Golovkin’s words are the only thing that matters.

They both clearly claim to selecting Steve Rolls.

Two human beings saying words that match my claim - that’s what happened.

What they said was almost word-for-word what I claimed. And that was no mere coincidence.

[greg]

The caption is meaningless. Loeffler and Golovkin’s words are the only thing that matters.

They both clearly claim to selecting Steve Rolls.

Two human beings saying words that match my claim - that’s what happened.

..you either don't understand how it works in the real world or pretend not to..

[Enlightened-One]

..you either don't understand how it works in the real world or pretend not to..

What do you mean? Using my fully-functional eyeballs and ears to see two grown men confirm my claim? Words being uttered from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I didn’t come up with a theory.

Everything I’ve said in this thread has been based on GGG’s own words.

You challenged me to provide proof - and I immediately supplied it.

End of discussion.

[greg]

What do you mean? Using my fully-functional eyeballs and ears to see two grown men confirm my claim?

I didn’t come up with a theory.

Everything I’ve said in this thread has been based on GGG’s own words.

You challenged me to provide proof - and I immediately supplied it.

End of discussion.

..being naive is a blessing! God bless you

[Thomastearns]

I have no link to provide since it's just my opinion.

But it does seem likely that if DAZN invests $100 million into a fighter, it means that the company demands some input into the choice of opponents.

Golovkin and Loeffler might have provided DAZN with a list of prospective opponents, that included Rolls.

But the company probably had the option to shoot down any one of them if it felt the opponent simply couldn't be sold or justified.

Just as DAZN wanted Joshua unveiled in America and would only accept an American or American based challenger.

It's just unrealistic to believe DAZN doesn't get involved in product control. Not when it's handing out a fortune in contracts.

Absolutely.

Whilst some fans seem unhappy with this matchup its a sure thing the DAZN will deliver the fights we want. It would be gross financial irresponsibility for them not to do so.

This is nothing like a champion sitting on his belts, cherry picking opponents. Golovkin is a free agent right now regarding mandatories, once more back in the role of a challenger

Instead this is an intriguing matchup with 'Cinderella' Steve Rolls hardly able to believe his luck after the also unbeaten Brandon Adams decided to go for the belt held by Jermall Charlo.

Steve Kim's article (link below) should be clear enough for most of us.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.co. ... atform=amp

[boxing_rocks]

he won 5-6 rounds vs both quillin and lem and has a decent list of wins, stevens, murata, murray, khurt, and a ko of the year, was also a 2x olympian

defo a better opponent then steve 'sausage' rolls

... and was down like 10 times.

[Enlightened-One]

I previously made the following prediction in this very thread, which appears to have come to fruition, because GGG’s die-hard fans are either wrongly blaming the choice of opponent squarely on DAZN or they’re dishonestly claiming that Steve Rolls is a decent fighter.

How utterly stupid can people be? They’re actively ignoring GGG’s own words in order to defend this blatant mismatch!

Look at my prophecy and see how it came to fruition by reading through some of the bizarre posts in this thread:

Yet there will inevitably be many GGG die-hards that will passionately fabricate a fictional reason to justify Golovkin’s decision to face Steve Rolls.

They’ll either maintain that Gennadiy’s peers are ducking him, even though GGG Promotions didn’t bother contacting any of his big-name rivals, or they’ll passionately argue that Steve Rolls is a legitimate world-rated opponent at 160lbs, like they embarrassingly pretended to claim that Vanes Martirosyan was one of the best middleweights the division had to offer for his mismatch against Golovkin.

Sometimes I hate being right, because there are a handful of lunatics frequenting this forum.

[greg]

..surely there's a much better place for your predictions and prophecies...wasting your energy enlightening lunatics here barely worths your precious time..

[oogiebe]

..surely there's a much better place for your predictions and prophecies...wasting your energy enlightening lunatics here barely worths your precious time..

How'd you enjoy your experience??

[greg]

How'd you enjoy your experience??

...I relished every second of it as you might imagine..