Fury is the real ducker

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Tyson Fury refuses to face Dillian Whyte even after WBC caves on diamond belt. He's a big mouth phony. He ducked the rematch with Wilder and he's ducking Whyte. He somehow thinks fighting Schwarz is ok. He's going to lose fans and interest.
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I've always liked Fury even before he fought Klitschko. But I'm bored with his beyond pathetic schedule.
I know it won't happen but I hope Schwartz beats him
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tiny_acres wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:21 I've always liked Fury even before he fought Klitschko. But I'm bored with his beyond pathetic schedule.
I know it won't happen but I hope Schwartz beats him
Same here. As if that's not enough frustration, Adam Smith said today that Pulev is AJ's most likely next opponent. Once again Wilder has the best opponent in Ortiz, but he'll get all the hate. So pathetic.
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oogiebe wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:25 Same here. As if that's not enough frustration, Adam Smith said today that Pulev is AJ's most likely next opponent. Once again Wilder has the best opponent in Ortiz, but he'll get all the hate. So pathetic.
I'm mad as hell that Wilder signed to face Ortiz before AJ even fights this weekend.
He should of waited and tried to hammer out details starting next week.
I'm fed up with all 3 of these guys.
For the first time in about 30 years we have 3 legitimate fighters who could give us so much entertainment.
Yet we are stuck with Schwartz Ruiz and now a rematch with Ortiz.
Fuggin wake me up when they finally get in the ring with each other
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tiny_acres wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:50 I'm mad as hell that Wilder signed to face Ortiz before AJ even fights this weekend.
He should of waited and tried to hammer out details starting next week.
I'm fed up with all 3 of these guys.
For the first time in about 30 years we have 3 legitimate fighters who could give us so much entertainment.
Yet we are stuck with Schwartz Ruiz and now a rematch with Ortiz.
Fuggin wake me up when they finally get in the ring with each other
I have my doubts we'll see them fight each other. I'd bet maybe Wilder will face either Fury or AJ, but never AJ/Fury. We never got Lewis/Bowe, we got Tyson/Lewis too late. My hopes aren't high.
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he should fight Whyte, he would beat him with ease so why not?
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dagilechia wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:56 he should fight Whyte, he would beat him with ease so why not?
Yeah, go ask him.
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he took a big risk of getting badly beaten with the wilder fight and it paid off, now hes getting big money for trash and seems happy with it, that said he did fight wlad and wilder and ill give him benefit of doubt at moment that he might step it up again
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He'll take an easy fight and then another big one. He fought Wilder of all people after being out of boxing for years and blimping up to 400 pounds and then just two practice fights for petes sake so cut him some slack!
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He doesn’t want to sour his lucrative ESPN deal by risking a fight with a dangerous opponent (not that I give Whyte much of a chance against Fury). I’m sure when ESPN sees the ratings for fights against no names there will be some pressure to make better fights happen.
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My source at Top Rank told me they'll be lucky to sell half the seats at the arena. It's that bad of a contest to sell.
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JohnMcMinn wrote: 30 May 2019, 22:47 He doesn’t want to sour his lucrative ESPN deal by risking a fight with a dangerous opponent (not that I give Whyte much of a chance against Fury). I’m sure when ESPN sees the ratings for fights against no names there will be some pressure to make better fights happen.
He won't draw big ratings for any fight on ESPN or in America. Arum signed him for a Joshua in the UK payday. ESPN isn't even putting it on their network.
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Oh behave yourselves. Fury got off his couch to face Wilder so anybody questioning his courage needs their bumps felt.

You can hardly blame him for taking the massive sum of money offered by Arum for what so far looks very little in return. It's a shame Wilder didn't take the vast sum on offer from DAZN because we'd have got the fight for undisputed, in fact two of them.

Why should Fury be remotely interested in fighting Whyte for some pathetic trinket, and the right to face Wilder for 25% of the purse (the mandatory challenger's end) when he could have just taken the Wilder rematch for 50/50 or 40/60?
Yes I know he asked for the WBC sanction but Fury talks a lot of shite that frequently makes little sense, and the exact opposite of what he said yesterday or will say tomorrow, that's just Fury being Fury.

I was quite pleased that Fury decided to take Arum's offer because I thought that was one less obstacle to the fight for the undisputed title being made. Instead we get Breazeale, Ortiz then Kownacki. F*cking wow !
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Lol, fury deserves massive credit for fighting wilder"off his couch", too bad you ridicule wilder for fighting him. If he knocked aj out in the first Rd you'd give him no credit for that. You once even admitted dazn is a danger zone for fighters and now you're back to that nonsense. What if Joshua would have stayed with Showtime? Lmao, you're passed bias and into obsession. Sick fornicator.
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oogiebe wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:14Fury is the real ducker

Tyson Fury refuses to face Dillian Whyte even after WBC caves on diamond belt. He's a big mouth phony. He ducked the rematch with Wilder and he's ducking Whyte. He somehow thinks fighting Schwarz is ok. He's going to lose fans and interest.
Tyson Fury was a big underdog when he travelled to Germany to face Wladimir Klitschko on the world champion’s home turf. He won that fight.

Tyson Fury was a big underdog when he travelled to America to face Deontay Wilder on the world champion’s home turf. In the eyes of most observers, he won that fight also.

Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder and Dillian Whyte have never faced world-rated opposition on foreign soil.

Tyson Fury doesn’t need to engage in a world title eliminator to face Deontay Wilder. He doesn’t need to take the Dillian Whyte bout.

In fact, his handlers have always maintained that it was highly unlikely for ‘The Gypsy King’ to face ‘The Body Snatcher’, due to promotional and broadcaster rivalries.

It could be argued that, from a global commercial perspective, Tyson Fury is a bigger name than Dillian Whyte, which meant that he would have deserved a better purse split than the WBC’s mandated 50-50 terms.

We also know that Bob Arum prevented Fury’s plans to engage in an immediate rematch against Wilder, because he wanted the public demand to see that bout to “marinate”.

So it seems you’re adamant to ignore the above facts, because the more interesting narrative is to assume derogatory reasons, such as fear and cowardice, for Tyson Fury’s decision-making.

You know for certain that the words I’ve written in this post are categorically true, but you’ll likely respond in a hostile manner , by resorting to insults rather than challenging any of the factually-accurate points I’ve mentioned.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 31 May 2019, 04:12 Lol, fury deserves massive credit for fighting wilder"off his couch", too bad you ridicule wilder for fighting him. If he knocked aj out in the first Rd you'd give him no credit for that. You once even admitted dazn is a danger zone for fighters and now you're back to that nonsense. What if Joshua would have stayed with Showtime? Lmao, you're passed bias and into obsession. Sick fornicator.
Of course I'd give him credit for knocking out Joshua. Before that happens he has to take the fight and whether that's Wilder, Haymon, Dibella, Finkel or any combination preventing it, it isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

What difference does it make to Wilder if DAZN goes belly up so long as he gets his 120 million in the meantime?

What am I even talking to you for? - you're just Wilder's knob-jockey.
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oogiebe wrote: 30 May 2019, 21:25 Same here. As if that's not enough frustration, Adam Smith said today that Pulev is AJ's most likely next opponent. Once again Wilder has the best opponent in Ortiz, but he'll get all the hate. So pathetic.
In alot of people's eyes Pulev > Ortiz. Plus, Wilder already beat him decisively so deserves some hate. Plus, Pulev is a mandatory.
candyslim wrote: 31 May 2019, 02:04 Why should Fury be remotely interested in fighting Whyte for some pathetic trinket, and the right to face Wilder for 25% of the purse (the mandatory challenger's end) when he could have just taken the Wilder rematch for 50/50 or 40/60?
Yes I know he asked for the WBC sanction but Fury talks a lot of shite that frequently makes little sense, and the exact opposite of what he said yesterday or will say tomorrow, that's just Fury being Fury.
Answered your own question without a justifiable excuse for it.
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candyslim wrote: 31 May 2019, 02:04 Oh behave yourselves. Fury got off his couch to face Wilder so anybody questioning his courage needs their bumps felt.

You can hardly blame him for taking the massive sum of money offered by Arum for what so far looks very little in return. It's a shame Wilder didn't take the vast sum on offer from DAZN because we'd have got the fight for undisputed, in fact two of them.

Why should Fury be remotely interested in fighting Whyte for some pathetic trinket, and the right to face Wilder for 25% of the purse (the mandatory challenger's end) when he could have just taken the Wilder rematch for 50/50 or 40/60?
Yes I know he asked for the WBC sanction but Fury talks a lot of shite that frequently makes little sense, and the exact opposite of what he said yesterday or will say tomorrow, that's just Fury being Fury.

I was quite pleased that Fury decided to take Arum's offer because I thought that was one less obstacle to the fight for the undisputed title being made. Instead we get Breazeale, Ortiz then Kownacki. F*cking wow !
He said he’d do it for the Diamond belt and it’s a fun fight we all want to see. There’s no excuse for it not to happen. I didn’t watch Wilder’s last fight, I won’t watch Joshua Ruiz and I won’t watch Fury Schwarz (which is the worst match up of the three by a long stretch) either.
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For the umpteenth time Fury doesn't need to fight eliminators. He can get a title fight any time he wants.

It's the same in other weights, the top guys can jump straight in.
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candyslim wrote: 31 May 2019, 05:05 Of course I'd give him credit for knocking out Joshua. Before that happens he has to take the fight and whether that's Wilder, Haymon, Dibella, Finkel or any combination preventing it, it isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

What difference does it make to Wilder if DAZN goes belly up so long as he gets his 120 million in the meantime?

What am I even talking to you for? - you're just Wilder's knob-jockey.
They're not paying these contracts up front. Why do you care only specifically about where wilder signs? In the very same post it's perfectly fine for fury. By all means don't talk to me, when it comes to wilder you're a frothing at the mouth rabid lunatic. It's sad really, do you even post about anything else anymore? And no, you wouldn't give him a lick of credit for beating Joshua. You'd join up with your he drugged povetkin and runs the wbc madmen and come up with another maniacal conspiracy. You're sick slim.
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joshj909 wrote: 31 May 2019, 05:24 In alot of people's eyes Pulev > Ortiz. Plus, Wilder already beat him decisively so deserves some hate. Plus, Pulev is a mandatory.



Answered your own question without a justifiable excuse for it.
Surely you don't expect Fury to think everything through before he runs his mouth? He talks a lot of sh1t and contradicts himself from interview to interview. I think that's what they call a colourful personality. Anyway he's not a politician and what he says isn't a promise so his sh1t means even less than theirs.
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 May 2019, 07:39 They're not paying these contracts up front.

cs: DAZN are still there chucking money around like confetti. Wilder could have had $20m of it already if he hadn't taken half to fight Breazeale on Showtime. If he's worried they aren't good for the money his first move could be to insist they put $100m in escrow before he signs. That way the money is secure whatever happens to DAZN.

Why do you care only specifically about where wilder signs? In the very same post it's perfectly fine for fury.

cs: Well pardon me for wanting to discover who is the best heavyweight in the world. I don't care whether it's on DAZN, Showtime, Fox, ESPN or frigging BT Sport, just as long as he signs a contract to fight Joshua.

cs : Yes it is perfectly fine for Fury. He has no belt hence no obligation. He can fight Edmund Gerber next for all I care.

By all means don't talk to me, when it comes to wilder you're a frothing at the mouth rabid lunatic. It's sad really, do you even post about anything else anymore? And no, you wouldn't give him a lick of credit for beating Joshua. You'd join up with your he drugged povetkin and runs the wbc madmen and come up with another maniacal conspiracy. You're sick slim.

cs: I don't need to justify myself to a prick like you who appears like magic to defend Wilder against anyone who has the temerity to offer even the mildest criticism. I'm sure if someone were to insult your mother or your wife you wouldn't react so butt-hurt as you do every time with Wilder.

cs: I'm sure your no longer reading but the man from Area 51 has said he's going to be speaking to John Skipper without Hearn's involvement and when the relationship is sufficiently good they'll make the fight. Not "we'll make the fight if Joshua still wants it". What does that tell you about who has been holding things up all along? Ok it tells you nothing but what does it tell anyone who is open to reason ?
My comments above preceded cs:
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I can see why Fury would duck Wilder. But why would he duck Whyte? I'd favor Fury over Whyte big time.
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candyslim wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:09 Surely you don't expect Fury to think everything through before he runs his mouth? He talks a lot of sh1t and contradicts himself from interview to interview. I think that's what they call a colourful personality. Anyway he's not a politician and what he says isn't a promise so his sh1t means even less than theirs.

My comments above preceded cs:
I don't read or respond to that format. :TU:
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candyslim wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:09 Surely you don't expect Fury to think everything through before he runs his mouth? He talks a lot of sh1t and contradicts himself from interview to interview. I think that's what they call a colourful personality. Anyway he's not a politician and what he says isn't a promise so his sh1t means even less than theirs.
He should be aware that his personality will get backlash then as he more often than not doesn't backup what he says. His supporters should also be aware of this and shouldn't need to defend him.

He can sell his persona to those who like controversy but to those who like facts and reality it will be harder until he "gets off his couch" again and backs up his claims.
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