how good is the 53-0 thai

[jamamb]

wanghen menayothin aka chayaphon moonsri

lets put aside all the goat jokes or the stuff about how his record isnt actually as good as floyds etc

how good is this guy as a fighter today. is he the genuine number 1 in the division? is he top 30 p4p? where does he stand historically for the 105 weight? what are his strneths and weaknesses etc

[Boxing Prospect]

He's a very competent fighter, tight defense, sharp accurate puncher, good combinations, not an easy fight for anyone in the division's history (Roman, Lopez and the other divisional greats would deal with him, but he'd give them all a fight).

He's pretty hot and cold though, and there's been a few lucky decisions. He's not hugely active and not a puncher.

Hard to say who #1 is at 105. I like Saludar, a lot, but until one of the Thai's lose they are rightfully #1a and #1b.

[jamamb]

thx for that mate

[Ruthless-RKO]

thx for that mate

I wanna see him fight CP Knockout.

But that’s never gonna happen.

[TheBeast]

Wanheng is a very efficient stalker and possibly the best Minimumweight right now.


He showed he is a good finisher once he has his opponent hurt.


The right is his best weapon but he is also a decent body puncher. His jab is more a gauging tool... particularly when thrown to the head... it rarely touches target but the right that follows does... and his lead hand is very good in combos of hooks and uppercuts.

[SenorPipino]

How many levels below Finito Lopez is he?

[TheBeast]

How many levels below Finito Lopez is he?

Worlds not levels

[SenorPipino]

Worlds not levels

That pretty much answers the question.

They have very similar records. But as we know, records can be quite deceiving.

[squiggy]

I think he's in the mix among Oleydong Sithsamerchai, Eagle Den Junlaphan, Kazuto Ioka -- the short list of top minimumweights behind Lopez. (Well and truly behind him, as already pointed out. Like, two of those guys would have to fight a prime Lopez at the same time to beat him.)

[gilgamesh]

I wanna see him fight CP Knockout.

But that’s never gonna happen.

Which is odd to me. They're both Thai, they're both 105 pounders, and there's virtually no marketable fights in those weight classes anyway. I would think that's the one and only Strawweight bout that would attract any kind of real attention, but even that probably wouldn't get much attention. Maybe it's just not worthwhile to unify in these weight classes, but if that's the case, if there's THAT little interest, maybe we just don't need these weight classes at all.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Which is odd to me. They're both Thai, they're both 105 pounders, and there's virtually no marketable fights in those weight classes anyway. I would think that's the one and only Strawweight bout that would attract any kind of real attention, but even that probably wouldn't get much attention. Maybe it's just not worthwhile to unify in these weight classes, but if that's the case, if there's THAT little interest, maybe we just don't need these weight classes at all.

I once said this on a different thread, and I can’t remember who it was that replied, but he seemed to know what he was talking about, saying they won’t unify for some reason.

This was from BS: The long-reigning titlist has ruled out a unification showdown with longtime friend and promotional stablemate Knockout CP Freshmart (19-0, 7KOs). That would leave South Africa’s Deejay Kriel and Philippines’ Vic Saludar, both of whom are coming off of title fight wins in back-to-back weekends in February.

As they have same promotion, there’s probably more money in both of them having a belt each rather than one.

But then there’s 2 other belts? IBF and WBO.

[Boxing Prospect]

I once said this on a different thread, and I can’t remember who it was that replied, but he seemed to know what he was talking about, saying they won’t unify for some reason.

This was from BS: The long-reigning titlist has ruled out a unification showdown with longtime friend and promotional stablemate Knockout CP Freshmart (19-0, 7KOs). That would leave South Africa’s Deejay Kriel and Philippines’ Vic Saludar, both of whom are coming off of title fight wins in back-to-back weekends in February.

As they have same promotion, there’s probably more money in both of them having a belt each rather than one.

But then there’s 2 other belts? IBF and WBO.

They are backed by the same promoter and sponsors, so there is more money their to keep them apart. Also Thai TV has had enough of soft match making, which means a limit on TV slots, with Channel 7 now saying they will ONLY air shows with a world title fight... So better to have 2 champions than 1

[ValMar]

Is there any money at the 105 ?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Is there any money at the 105 ?

From 2014:

The improbable title run of Oswaldo Novoa will now come with a career-high payday. All he has to do is once again travel overseas to his opponent's backyard.

Novoa's forthcoming title defense versus unbeaten Wanheng Menayothin is confirmed to land in Thailand thanks to a generous winning purse bid. Famed Thai promoter Virat Vachirarattanawong submitted a whopping $173,000 to land the strawweight title fight, which will take place on a yet-to-be-confirmed September date in Thailand.

Traditionally the winning purse bid results in a 75/25 split in favor of the champion. Novoa could stand to make as much as 80% - or more than $138,000 - with the extra 5% the result of having to travel to the challenger's home country.

[ValMar]

From 2014:

The improbable title run of Oswaldo Novoa will now come with a career-high payday. All he has to do is once again travel overseas to his opponent's backyard.

Novoa's forthcoming title defense versus unbeaten Wanheng Menayothin is confirmed to land in Thailand thanks to a generous winning purse bid. Famed Thai promoter Virat Vachirarattanawong submitted a whopping $173,000 to land the strawweight title fight, which will take place on a yet-to-be-confirmed September date in Thailand.

Traditionally the winning purse bid results in a 75/25 split in favor of the champion. Novoa could stand to make as much as 80% - or more than $138,000 - with the extra 5% the result of having to travel to the challenger's home country.

Not so bad.