The upset of the century ?

[Onetimeonly]

I was chosing both Klitschko and AJ confidently, but then I was sure in Klitschko for 99% and now for about 90% in Joshua.

I was 100% aj and about 85 Klitschko.

[Thomastearns]

Yes, this century.

The biggest since Tyson - Douglas, although that one has been overblown when you consider what Tyson was going through, and what condition Douglas was in. This fight played out eerily similar.

Ruiz was obviously dangerous and his chin held up fantastically well. AJs didn't. Ruiz showed no weakness whatsoever and may be impossible to take out with any one shot this side of Wilder. Not even easy to outbox as the Parker fight showed.

Smart decision to bail out and hopefully AJ will fight the rematch differently, more on his own terms. No doubt more information will come out in the days to come, but congrats to Ruiz (and curses to Miller).

That's how you shock the world.

[Enlightened-One]

Hasim Rahman versus Lennox Lewis?
Tyson Fury versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Bernard Hopkins versus Felix Trinidad?
Antonio Tarver versus Roy Jones Jr.?
Lamon Brewster versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Corrie Sanders versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Carlos Baldomir versus Zab Judah?
Ricardo Mayorga versus Vernon Forrest?
Bernard Hopkins versus Kelly Pavlik?
Marcos Maidana versus Adrien Broner?
Glen Johnson versus Roy Jones Jr.?

[candyslim]

It's certainly up there. I voted "yes" but that's a bit knee-jerk I suspect.

[Onetimeonly]

Hasim Rahman versus Lennox Lewis?
Tyson Fury versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Bernard Hopkins versus Felix Trinidad?
Antonio Tarver versus Roy Jones Jr.?
Lamon Brewster versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Corrie Sanders versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Carlos Baldomir versus Zab Judah?
Ricardo Mayorga versus Vernon Forrest?
Bernard Hopkins versus Kelly Pavlik?
Marcos Maidana versus Adrien Broner?
Glen Johnson versus Roy Jones Jr.?

I gave broner the same chance I gave Ruiz, zero.

[Enlightened-One]

I gave broner the same chance I gave Ruiz, zero.

It’s a shame you can’t prove it by posting your prediction submitted prior to the bout itself.

It’s easy to fabricate all sorts of bûllshît claims without backing them up with proof.

What about the other fights?

[Ricky]

Not even an upset, I fancied Ruiz to at least make it close.

[Onetimeonly]

It’s a shame you can’t prove it by posting your prediction submitted prior to the bout itself.

It’s easy to fabricate all sorts of bûllshît claims without backing them up with proof.

What about the other fights?

I demanded it for months on this forum. Even then I cashed around +375, not even close to the same odds.

[caldo2025]

How do you think Eddie Hearn woke up this morning? He really f’d things up for his cash cow.

I knew nothing about Ruiz before last night but after one round, I knew that he’s the type of boxer that it’s impossible to look good against. Quick hands and tremendous counter puncher for a heavyweight. That plus putting AJ at MSG and fighting away from home for first time in main event. He needed to pick a softer challenger for this one.

We all know that all of these heavyweights are going to lose eventually and Hearn did a horrible job in making AJ be the first one to blink. AJ needs to learn when to go for kill. He constantly chooses the worst times to go after ko

[ewenhay]

How do you think Eddie Hearn woke up this morning? He really f’d things up for his cash cow.

I knew nothing about Ruiz before last night but after one round, I knew that he’s the type of boxer that it’s impossible to look good against. Quick hands and tremendous counter puncher for a heavyweight. That plus putting AJ at MSG and fighting away from home for first time in main event. He needed to pick a softer challenger for this one.

We all know that all of these heavyweights are going to lose eventually and Hearn did a horrible job in making AJ be the first one to blink. AJ needs to learn when to go for kill. He constantly chooses the worst times to go after ko

No sympathy for Hearn. Chased the dazn dollar, got greedy and spread himself thin. Treated the UK boxing fans like shit and believed his own hype about Joshua

[candyslim]

That's very honest of you saying you knew nothing about Ruiz. Obviously you didn't see the Parker fight then.

In hindsight you're right about the softer option but Joshua hasn't become unified champion by taking easy fights. Eddie knew Ruiz was for real but regarded him as nothing AJ couldn't handle. If Joshua made better choices (your other point) he would most likely have been right.

[ValMar]

Hasim Rahman versus Lennox Lewis?
Tyson Fury versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Bernard Hopkins versus Felix Trinidad?
Antonio Tarver versus Roy Jones Jr.?
Lamon Brewster versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Corrie Sanders versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Carlos Baldomir versus Zab Judah?
Ricardo Mayorga versus Vernon Forrest?
Bernard Hopkins versus Kelly Pavlik?
Marcos Maidana versus Adrien Broner?
Glen Johnson versus Roy Jones Jr.?

Rahman vs. Lewis & Fury vs. Klitschko were the genuine upsets, I admit.

Maidana vs. Broner - absolutely no !

The rest ? It is questionable, definitely.

[greg]

..I'm not a fan of these hyperbole etc... upset of the century? I don't know considering the century is not over yet and we hopefully speak of the HW division only...it was a huge upset alright imo..

[Enlightened-One]

Rahman vs. Lewis & Fury vs. Klitschko were the genuine upsets, I admit.

Maidana vs. Broner - absolutely no !

The rest ? It is questionable, definitely.

You can’t be a revisionist historian, using hindsight to fuel your “wisdom.”

Look at the betting odds and media predictions for the outcome of the fights I listed.

They were all huge upsets. It would be wrong, to the point of being considered utterly bizarre, to think otherwise.

[cormack]

AJ looked weird from the moment he walked out of the dressing room .
Almost like he knew the game was up .
I saw something like this when Povetkin bust his nose but that time he was quickly on top .

Ruiz seemed to come alive everytime Joshua landed and fired back with 6 of is own .

Good win for Ruiz but still a very strange performance from AJ .

[ValMar]

You can’t be a revisionist historian, using hindsight to fuel your “wisdom.”

Look at the betting odds and media predictions for the outcome of the fights I listed.

They were all huge upsets. It would be wrong, to the point of being considered utterly bizarre, to think otherwise.

You did not convince me, but, of course it is not the end of the world. Simple, we have different opinions about this issue.

[p4p1]

I didn’t think it would happen this fight but AJ has always looked vulnerable to me. I was confident that Wilder would take him out because of the speed difference. AJ is slow and robotic. I don’t think he has been exposed at all, the flaws and weaknesses were always there and it was a matter of time IMO.
Was great fight to watch. Ruiz’s flurries on the inside and his set ups showed real ring IQ IMO. I think AJ is always going to be vulnerable against someone with a chin and speed. I’m stoked all the hype is over now. I was over seeing it in the 90s or naughtiest he wouldn’t have been a real contender IMO.

[ewenhay]

I didn’t think it would happen this fight but AJ has always looked vulnerable to me. I was confident that Wilder would take him out because of the speed difference. AJ is slow and robotic. I don’t think he has been exposed at all, the flaws and weaknesses were always there and it was a matter of time IMO.
Was great fight to watch. Ruiz’s flurries on the inside and his set ups showed real ring IQ IMO. I think AJ is always going to be vulnerable against someone with a chin and speed. I’m stoked all the hype is over now. I was over seeing it in the 90s or naughtiest he wouldn’t have been a real contender IMO.

Yeah it's like watching Bruno but in a weaker era. I think Frank had better basic skills than Joshua though.

[Enlightened-One]

You did not convince me, but, of course it is not the end of the world. Simple, we have different opinions about this issue.

We do have differing opinions about the issue.

I was commenting on the common perception of those bouts prior to them taking place.

You were likely articulating your personal opinion of those bouts (perhaps based on your recollection of your thoughts at the time those fights were announced).

I can’t dispute or disprove what you personally believed at the time., but my claims about the common perception are easily verifiable.

We’ll agree to disagree.

[ValMar]

We do have differing opinions about the issue.

I was commenting on the common perception of those bouts prior to them taking place.

You were likely articulating your personal opinion of those bouts (perhaps based on your recollection of your thoughts at the time those fights were announced).

I can’t dispute or disprove what you personally believed at the time., but my claims about the common perception are easily verifiable.

We’ll agree to disagree.

You are absolutely right about the bolded text.
I don't know anything about betting odds fifteen years ago.
Beyond my personal attitude (and mentioned betting odds), I think the most important factors about the great boxing upsets might be : the weight division, the belts in the game, the money in the game, the world-wide popularity of boxers in the game.

So, you might be right, but I am sure that tomorrow, at least ten my work-mates will tell me that this was "the boxing upset of the century"..............OK, I know, I am speaking about the casual fans, but, should we neglect their opinions ?

[SenorPipino]

Oddswise, at about 25-1, it certainly is the biggest high profile upset of the 21st century.

For comparison, Klitschko was only 5-1 over Fury.

And Broner was favored by those same odds, 5-1, over Maidana.

So most other fights mentioned don't come close to last night's stunner.

There was nearly zero respect for Ruiz. And too much for Joshua.

[diddy]

Joshua closed a -1700 favorite. Not even the biggest upset in the last month odds wise. Plenty of bigger favorites lose regularly. But on the high scale with champs involved it’s certainly an upset of large magnitude. It’s on level of McCall and Rahman over Lennox.

[Ilya Muromets]

I don't know if it was the biggest upset going back to 1919 but it was amazing and one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen - and he didn't just get in one lucky punch like a lot of other big upsets, he thoroughly beat up Joshua and made him quit!

[ValMar]

I don't know if it was the biggest upset going back to 1919 but it was amazing and one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen - and he didn't just get in one lucky punch like a lot of other big upsets, he thoroughly beat up Joshua and made him quit!

Ilya, I mean this (XXI) century, since 2000.

[Paci]

I don't know if it was the biggest upset going back to 1919 but it was amazing and one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen - and he didn't just get in one lucky punch like a lot of other big upsets, he thoroughly beat up Joshua and made him quit!

Im still pissed I feel asleep before the fight started.

Yeah, Ruiz was do or die in the ring. The 3rd round said something about him, after the knockdown and a soild left-hook or something right on the money by Jousha and keeping himself on his feet and counting fight given to two knockdowns in return, was epic.