The upset of the century ?

[Ilya Muromets]

Ilya, I mean this (XXI) century, since 2000.

OK then! It was the biggest upset I ever remember seeing, and also the most exciting fight i ever remember seeing. I was rooting for Ruiz, but like most everybody I thought he had very little chance. I thought he was fighting good in the early rounds but when he got knocked down in rd 3 i thought the fight was over, like everyone else...but the fight was just beginning! Then I thought that Joshua would come back and win like he did when Wlad let him off the hook. Amazing fight!

[gilgamesh]

It’s not a big particularly big upset.

Even though many of us expected AJ to win, a lot of us still appreciated Andy’s pugilistic talents.

So he always stood a chance, admittedly one that was slimmer than his physique.

It's the biggest upset since Douglas vs Tyson easy

[JxhDel.]

Tremendous upset for sure but had its fair reasons

[ValMar]

OK then! It was the biggest upset I ever remember seeing, and also the most exciting fight i ever remember seeing. I was rooting for Ruiz, but like most everybody I thought he had very little chance. I thought he was fighting good in the early rounds but when he got knocked down in rd 3 i thought the fight was over, like everyone else...but the fight was just beginning! Then I thought that Joshua would come back and win like he did when Wlad let him off the hook. Amazing fight!

This is my personal opinion, only - I have been following boxing more than forty years. The biggest upset I can remember is Douglas-Tyson, I have not any dilemma about that (and, this happened before 2000).

The second one is definitely Ruiz vs. Joshua.

No. 3 - Rahman-Lewis
No. 4 - Fury vs. Klitschko

I am not sure abot No. 5, this is very questionable issue.

I am speaking about the top level fights, of course.

[Enlightened-One]

It's the biggest upset since Douglas vs Tyson easy

Since the start of the current millennium:

Hasim Rahman versus Lennox Lewis?
Tyson Fury versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Bernard Hopkins versus Felix Trinidad?
Antonio Tarver versus Roy Jones Jr.?
Lamon Brewster versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Corrie Sanders versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Carlos Baldomir versus Zab Judah?
Ricardo Mayorga versus Vernon Forrest?
Bernard Hopkins versus Kelly Pavlik?
Marcos Maidana versus Adrien Broner?
Glen Johnson versus Roy Jones Jr.?

[gilgamesh]

Since the start of the current millennium:

Hasim Rahman versus Lennox Lewis?
Tyson Fury versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Bernard Hopkins versus Felix Trinidad?
Antonio Tarver versus Roy Jones Jr.?
Lamon Brewster versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Corrie Sanders versus Wladimir Klitschko?
Carlos Baldomir versus Zab Judah?
Ricardo Mayorga versus Vernon Forrest?
Bernard Hopkins versus Kelly Pavlik?
Marcos Maidana versus Adrien Broner?
Glen Johnson versus Roy Jones Jr.?

I'm aware of all those. Watched 'em all in real time (well except for Lewis vs Rahman, the rematch of that was my first bout as a serious fan) as they happened. This one was bigger. That being said all of them did indeed surprise me.

[Enlightened-One]

I'm aware of all those. Watched 'em all in real time as they happened. This one was bigger. That being said all of them did indeed surprise me.

There are loads of upsets since the Buster Douglas fight that were considered bigger upsets, such as Tyson-Holyfield.

[gilgamesh]

There are loads of upsets since the Buster Douglas fight that were considered bigger upsets, such as Tyson-Holyfield.

Not to me.

[candyslim]

AJ looked weird from the moment he walked out of the dressing room .
Almost like he knew the game was up .
I saw something like this when Povetkin bust his nose but that time he was quickly on top .

Ruiz seemed to come alive everytime Joshua landed and fired back with 6 of is own .

Good win for Ruiz but still a very strange performance from AJ .

I know what you mean. It was almost like he'd had a premonition, mind you I'm not sure I would have thought that before I knew the result.

[SenorPipino]

Tyson did open a 25-1 favorite over supposedly faded Holyfield. Pretty much in line with last night's odds

But Holyfield was tremendously respected and the odds had been whittled down to 6-1 on fight night.

Despite the one sided nature of that first fight, Tyson was still a 2 1/2-1 favorite when they hooked up again 7 months later in the infamous Bite Fight.

I suspect that Joshua will also be a narrow betting choice in a rematch. Especially if it's held in the UK.

[Contendeh]

I think so. Among the heavyweights for sure.

[Contendeh]

It's the biggest upset since Douglas vs Tyson easy

Why is it bigger than Lewis v McCall?

[oogiebe]

Considering how stunned I am, yes, the biggest upset in the 21st century for me.

[ewenhay]

Why is it bigger than Lewis v McCall?

It's not. It's not bigger than Rahman v Lewis either imo. Lewis was a far better fighter than Joshua.

Bookies change odds based on money being laid. They aren't always the best measure of an upset. A lot of money piled on one fighter can skew the odds massively.

[oogiebe]

It's not. It's not bigger than Rahman v Lewis either imo. Lewis was a far better fighter than Joshua.

Bookies change odds based on money being laid. They aren't always the best measure of an upset. A lot of money piled on one fighter can skew the odds massively.

It is bigger, in that Lewis got sparked from one punch. AJ got beaten up and outclassed. More telling; more of an upset. Just look at the questions of whether or not AJ could win a rematch. We knew LL was going to win the rematch.

[chinarich]

It’s funny, because nobody was giving Ruiz a chance I posted in one of the pre-fight threads asking how much of an upset people thought it would be should he win. I think the responses settled on it being Rahman-Lewis level. So not the upset of the century so maybe close to that one...

[ewenhay]

It’s funny, because nobody was giving Ruiz a chance I posted in one of the pre-fight threads asking how much of an upset people thought it would be should he win. I think the responses settled on it being Rahman-Lewis level. So not the upset of the century so maybe close to that one...

Yeah I can buy that. Similar to Rahman v Lewis it is then.

[ValMar]

It's not. It's not bigger than Rahman v Lewis either imo. Lewis was a far better fighter than Joshua.

Bookies change odds based on money being laid. They aren't always the best measure of an upset. A lot of money piled on one fighter can skew the odds massively.

Right now, I don't want to compare Joshua with Lewis. Rahman has been much more established HW facing Lewis, than Ruiz facing Joshua. This is the fact, there is no human capable to convince me the opposite..

[gilgamesh]

Why is it bigger than Lewis v McCall?

Look at McCall and look at Ruiz. Muscular, well built, strong looking Black fighter who looks kinda crazy. Fat, pudgy, doesn't look like he could run a mile Mexican.

Come on. Do I need to spell it out for you?

Anthony Joshua wasn't seen as invulnerable by any means, but Ruiz sure wasn't gonna be the guy to knock the train off the tracks in anyone's view, and let's not act like any of us even remotely saw this coming because we didn't. I thought Ruiz wins 1 or 2 rounds AT BEST. No way in hell did I think he could ever hurt Joshua, let alone drop him 4 times and stop him.

[ewenhay]

Right now, I don't want to compare Joshua with Lewis. Rahman has been much more established HW facing Lewis, than Ruiz facing Joshua. This is the fact, there is no human capable to convince me the opposite..

Yeah but Lewis was light years ahead of Joshua so it probably evens itself out

[ValMar]

Look at McCall and look at Ruiz. Muscular, well built, strong looking Black fighter who looks kinda crazy. Fat, pudgy, doesn't look like he could run a mile Mexican.

Come on. Do I need to spell it out for you?

Anthony Joshua wasn't seen as invulnerable by any means, but Ruiz sure wasn't gonna be the guy to knock the train off the tracks in anyone's view, and let's not act like any of us even remotely saw this coming because we didn't. I thought Ruiz wins 1 or 2 rounds AT BEST. No way in hell did I think he could ever hurt Joshua, let alone drop him 4 times and stop him.

Well done !

[Contendeh]

Look at McCall and look at Ruiz. Muscular, well built, strong looking Black fighter who looks kinda crazy. Fat, pudgy, doesn't look like he could run a mile Mexican.

Come on. Do I need to spell it out for you?

Anthony Joshua wasn't seen as invulnerable by any means, but Ruiz sure wasn't gonna be the guy to knock the train off the tracks in anyone's view, and let's not act like any of us even remotely saw this coming because we didn't. I thought Ruiz wins 1 or 2 rounds AT BEST. No way in hell did I think he could ever hurt Joshua, let alone drop him 4 times and stop him.

The hell skin tone got to do with it?

McCall was a sparring partner who had 5 losses prior to the fight

[ValMar]

Yeah but Lewis was light years ahead of Joshua so it probably evens itself out

Lewis was a great champion, of course, for me he is No. 2 (Ali is No. 1) considering all boxers I can remember (and, I am generation 1965, same as Lewis). But "light years ahead" is really too much.

[ewenhay]

Lewis was a great champion, of course, for me he is No. 2 (Ali is No. 1) considering all boxers I can remember (and, I am generation 1965, same as Lewis). But "light years ahead" is really too much.

He really was light years ahead. Watch a prime Lewis move around the ring and throwing punches then watch the Joshua boxing by numbers. It's a completely different level altogether

[oogiebe]

He really was light years ahead. Watch a prime Lewis move around the ring and throwing punches then watch the Joshua boxing by numbers. It's a completely different level altogether

x2 no doubt