Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Last hour predictions?

Poll ended at 02 Jun 2019, 14:04

Joshua - Decision
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Joshua - T/KO
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DRAW
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Ruiz - T/KO
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Ruiz - Decision
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Total votes: 26

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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

Post by Datsue »

leejonesjnr wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 07:31 What caught my eye was the way that Ruiz stayed composed and in range, dealing with the shots coming at him with confident parries.
Yup, that & his bodywork (including a better-than-Evander-in-the-Lewis-rematch jab to the chest) were fornicating class. He got nailed a fair few times but managed to keep so compact with bombs flying past his head.

Good on him, I say. He deserved that.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Datsue wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 08:00 Yup, that & his bodywork (including a better-than-Evander-in-the-Lewis-rematch jab to the chest) were effing class. He got nailed a fair few times but managed to keep so compact with bombs flying past his head.

Good on him, I say. He deserved that.
Definitely. Its a great day for boxing. Just wish some others would realise it.

Ruiz did a great job and should get full credit for doing what others haven't been able to do so far, exposing the myth.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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samwbr wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 06:40 Late November or early December according to Hearn.
Several weeks abroad before the fight will be made and he's signed up to VADA.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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dalcumly wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 07:47 dear oh dear. Ruiz is now a world beater, and of course everyone put money on the rank outsider to beat Joshua.
I repeat Ruiz is a bum, something was terribly wrong with Joshua, either mentally of physically. I wonder if he was stunned or knocked down in sparring in the few weeks before the fight.
The first thing I'd do is get back to London and get an MRi scan.

What an utter embarrassment. Ruiz couldn't beat anybody in the top ten.

Are you sure you never took any heavy blows like AJ did last night mate ? If I was you I’d go and get yourself a MRI & MRA scans looooool

Ruiz is most certainly no bum, he’s got the fastest hands, best combinations and body puncher in the division by far, and imo the best chin aswell, he’s more mobile like I said before leading upto the fight than anyone else in the division other than Fury also, he deserves credit, he did what no one thought he could or would simply cuz he doesn’t look how you and majority on here and the ray of amazing knowledgable casuals loooool think he should, muscles don’t mean shit except they eat way much more oxygen and look good to most of you ars e lickers and the young women on a beach when your posing and swanning around in your pair of Speedo’s looooool, Ruiz broke his heart and beat him down, simple, made him quit showed him for exactly what he is, Ruiz deserves all the credit no less, nothing was wrong with Joshua at all no excuses, except maybe he wasn’t so “stay humble” when he interrupted Ruiz interview then stormed off and didn’t want to speak or give his interview looooool, I said it for so long Joshua is and always has been over hyped cuz of the way he looks and is marketable, he is and always has been no better than a modern day Frank Bruno, he is lucky he is this modern era cuz If was about with the Holyfields, Tyson, bowe, Lewis and even Tua’s he would be lucky to make top 10
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Boxingcutsman wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 08:15 Are you sure you never took any heavy blows like AJ did last night mate ? If I was you I’d go and get yourself a MRI & MRA scans looooool

Ruiz is most certainly no bum, he’s got the fastest hands, best combinations and body puncher in the division by far, and imo the best chin aswell, he’s more mobile like I said before leading upto the fight than anyone else in the division other than Fury also, he deserves credit, he did what no one thought he could or would simply cuz he doesn’t look how you and majority on here and the ray of amazing knowledgable casuals loooool think he should, muscles don’t mean poo except they eat way much more oxygen and look good to most of you ars e lickers and the young women on a beach when your posing and swanning around in your pair of Speedo’s looooool, Ruiz broke his heart and beat him down, simple, made him quit showed him for exactly what he is, Ruiz deserves all the credit no less, nothing was wrong with Joshua at all no excuses, except maybe he wasn’t so “stay humble” when he interrupted Ruiz interview then stormed off and didn’t want to speak or give his interview looooool, I said it for so long Joshua is and always has been over hyped cuz of the way he looks and is marketable, he is and always has been no better than a modern day Frank Bruno, he is lucky he is this modern era cuz If was about with the Holyfields, Tyson, bowe, Lewis and even Tua’s he would be lucky to make top 10
Your username suggests you work in boxing, if you do i'd expect you to show a bit more respect to Bruno, every post in this thread you've mentioned him, you do know he was a world champion and not some bum??
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Imagine saying a fighters lucky cause he wouldn’t be able to live with four of the best fighters the division has ever seen, and thinking that’s good criticism.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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handsofstone wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 08:38 Your username suggests you work in boxing, if you do i'd expect you to show a bit more respect to Bruno, every post in this thread you've mentioned him, you do know he was a world champion and not some bum??
Yes I work in boxing, and where is that disrespectful to say he is a modern day Frank Bruno ? Frank Bruno was the people’s champion as they’ve made Joshua into, Frank Bruno was big and muscular and would gas like Joshua does and looks, so again how is that disrespectful ? I’ll tell you, it’s not, it called comparing and similarities when everyone on here and about has tried to make and think of Joshua as something he isn’t and that’s where I compare him, he’s good and looks the part but by no means a unbeatable or god like figure most were making him out to be, it’s all be a smoke screen and careful work and marketing my friend to get him where he was anyway, and that part is not like Bruno cuz he actually deserved and worked his way to what he achieved not marketed and carefully manoeuvred
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Gwan Dill get him told
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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I’ve just watched the fight, what I found strange is how AJ instantly ceded all of his natural advantages - height and reach - he didn’t control the distance with the jab and he let Ruiz stay on the front foot and be the aggressor. He never imposed himself on the fight. Then, when he was hit with flurries of punches he just backed up and failed to counter. To me, it looked like he fought scared, or at best, apprehensively...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 12:03
Wilder is an absolute clown, he was clearly avoiding AJ, knocked back at least $80m and judging by last night he would have won easily, now that kind of pay day is up in smoke.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 12:03
I thought Fury’s Twitter comment was very respectful. Total opposite to Wilder’s...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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chinarich wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 12:15 I thought Fury’s Twitter comment was very respectful. Total opposite to Wilder’s...
Wilder is trying to act the part of the controversial badass, but he isn't very good at it and he keeps making an arse of himself.

Fury has been doing it for longer and knows when to turn it on and off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Second coming. Of Frank Bruno.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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JohnL wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 13:04 Second coming. Of Frank Bruno.
I remember being Crucified on History thread making that case.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Just watched highlights, Jesus, Joshua looked gash.

It's not like Ruiz was fighting like the 2nd coming of a young Mike Tyson, he was really just whaling away with hooks, and Joshua was a sitting duck.

I always figured someone with fast hands would be Joshua's undoing, but it seemed unlikely Ruiz was going to be the one.

I think Joshua is deluding himself a bit that the result was just an abberation.

It wasn't the best version of Joshua for sure, he seemed to lack any authority, and if anything the knockdown he scored was against the grain of the fight. He looked pretty clueless at times.

I'm wondering whether his motivation for this fight came into play, he seemed very flat, but then we've seen him go to sleep against Parker before, and also at times against Povetkin, who showed he was vulnerable to combination punching, especially hooks.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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chinarich wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 12:13 I’ve just watched the fight, what I found strange is how AJ instantly ceded all of his natural advantages - height and reach - he didn’t control the distance with the jab and he let Ruiz stay on the front foot and be the aggressor. He never imposed himself on the fight. Then, when he was hit with flurries of punches he just backed up and failed to counter. To me, it looked like he fought scared, or at best, apprehensively...
Joshua has never really used his height and reach that well, he seems to prefer to punch at mid and close range if anything.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 13:20 Just watched highlights, Jesus, Joshua looked gash.

It's not like Ruiz was fighting like the 2nd coming of a young Mike Tyson, he was really just whaling away with hooks, and Joshua was a sitting duck.

I always figured someone with fast hands would be Joshua's undoing, but it seemed unlikely Ruiz was going to be the one.

I think Joshua is deluding himself a bit that the result was just an abberation.

It wasn't the best version of Joshua for sure, he seemed to lack any authority, and if anything the knockdown he scored was against the grain of the fight. He looked pretty clueless at times.

I'm wondering whether his motivation for this fight came into play, he seemed very flat, but then we've seen him go to sleep against Parker before, and also at times against Povetkin, who showed he was vulnerable to combination punching, especially hooks.
ya thats what i meant in previous posts, ruiz was winging pretty wild and wide hooks, it wasnt some masterfully skilled showing and he was sloppy himself, though still gave aj a beatdown
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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jamamb wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 13:22 ya thats what i meant in previous posts, ruiz was winging pretty wild and wide hooks, it wasnt some masterfully skilled showing and he was sloppy himself, though still gave aj a beatdown
Ruiz' body work was masterful. Especially r6, true world class bodywork.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 13:22 Joshua has never really used his height and reach that well, he seems to prefer to punch at mid and close range if anything.
Fair enough, I’ve not seen many of his fights but it seemed to me that, regardless of where he’s comfortable fighting he was letting Ruiz dictate to an extent, which a champion shouldn’t do...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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Definitely something up with Joshua, after that 1st knockdown, he looked absolutely exhausted.

He's lucky the ref let him continue after that 2nd knockdown, looked totally fucked.,
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 14:00 Definitely something up with Joshua, after that 1st knockdown, he looked absolutely exhausted.

He's lucky the ref let him continue after that 2nd knockdown, looked totally fucked.,
Behind the ear shots take a while to recover from. AJ never did recover from that third round shot.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

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What i wanna know is this,who taught AJ to throw a jab to the body with a guy who is 4 inches plus shorter than you and is fast as fvk for a heavyweight? Why on earth would joshua throw a single jab to the body anyway? He is 6 foot 6 and should be using his jab to his advantage not throwing lazy jabs to the body of ruiz.

Do you tink McCracken is the right man to guide to AJ to th undisputed heavyweight title? I dont think he can i think he gas rode the AJ train and hasnt taught AJ a great deal since he took over from simms. Loo at lennox lewis 6 foot 5 and had a jab like a ram rod,he coukd mix it when he chose to but always controlled the pace of a fight,AJ doesnt have this attribute and i dont think he ever will have it. I was listening to it on the radio and david haye hit the nail on the head he said Joshua and Wilder didnt come into boxing till late where as Ruiz had done it since he was a kid,he said AJ could be a shot putter or a sprinter and he would be really good at either he said these are athletes who do boxing where as Ruiz is a boxer and has been a boxer all his life and thats the difference between them.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - 1 June 2019

Post by ironbeard »

The massive disrespect both AJ and Ruiz Jr. are enduring post fight is pathetic. People calling AJ an idiot, a quitter, a fake. That is not just disrespectful to AJ but also to Ruiz. People claiming that Ruiz is still a bum, an embarrassment to boxing. That is disrespectful to AJ also.

AJ was in control of that fight until he fell into Ruiz’s trap. He got caught on the temple and never recovered, but he kept getting up and HE NEVER QUIT.

AJ is taking heat for how respectful he has been post fight. He has taken heat for being too nonchalant in defeat.

Watch both post fight conferences.

AJ has no excuses. He is not quitting. He is coming back. Ruiz is a grateful world champion. He is respectful. They are both measured and very well spoken.

What is not to love about these two great warriors for boxing fans? :maybe:
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