Shocking Upsets

[HomicideHenry]

Im not going to allow you mother fuckers to derail my threads. It was a single second after the bell. Big whoop. Monaco cleaned his clock. The fornicator would get his dick knocked in the dirt by Savarese in one round two fights later. Monaco was a telltale sign that Douglas wasn't going anywhere in his comeback.

[Jaywheel]

Another one then, everyone thought Grant would win, but they denied Butler of the KO. Damn boxing politics!!

[HomicideHenry]

Another one then, everyone thought Grant would win, but they denied Butler of the KO. Damn boxing politics!!

Absolutely tasteless to bring in the murderer of Max Kellerman's brother just for you to make some sarcastic point.

[Jaywheel]

As tasteless as inventing upsets and facts to make yours?

[HomicideHenry]

You're just a dick at this point. The crowd booed the decision. Monaco beat his ass, even before the bell. Period. Now I'm moving on from your petty ass.



Price vs Thompson

6'8" 240 pound David Price, 15-0-0 (13), was poised by many to be the guy to win the heavyweight title. Many thought him, not Tyson Fury, would be the one to beat Klitschko. Many on this forum were dead certain of that. They couldn't have been more wrong as Thompson stopped Price.



Everybody believing it all had to have been nothing more than a fluke got to see the immediate rematch. Though Thompson was dropped, he weathered the storm and once again beat Price completely defenseless. England's biggest heartbreak until Joshua lost to Ruiz.

[Woldemar]

Also a huge upset

[overhand_right]

Not to derail the thread but Ray Mercer beat Tommy Morrison in the amateurs, not the other way round.

[HomicideHenry]

Not to derail the thread but Ray Mercer beat Tommy Morrison in the amateurs, not the other way round.

I stand corrected. Was a 4-1 decision for Mercer in the amateurs. Ironically President Trump was the promoter of the pro bout between Mercer & Morrison.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.html

[Jaywheel]

[HomicideHenry]

I wouldn't be laughing giggles.

At least I'm not a die-hard fan of Dave Hilton one of the biggest scum bags in the history of boxing like yourself.

[Onetimeonly]

Well, I see poor Rufus is being victimized again. No ridiculous outbursts from him. Now, now, buck up little trooper. God still loves you. I think another you're mellowing thread is in order.

[HomicideHenry]

Well, I see poor Rufus is being victimized again. No ridiculous outbursts from him. Now, now, buck up little trooper. God still loves you. I think another you're mellowing thread is in order.

You're a fornicating stalker I swear or at the least a sadistic fornicate who gets off on watching drama. I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start your shit too.

[littlepug]

Louis v Schmelling 1
Jones v Tarver 2
Robinson v Turpin 1
Ali v Liston 1
Mcguigan v Cruz

[HomicideHenry]

Louis v Schmelling 1
Jones v Tarver 2
Robinson v Turpin 1
Ali v Liston 1
Mcguigan v Cruz

Will put those videos up I already did Ali vs Liston, but those others I will.

[HomicideHenry]

Louis vs Schmeling, 1936

"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis was on a straight trajectory towards the heavyweight title and everyone was anxiously awaiting the second black man to become champion. Unlike Jack Johnson the 24-0-0 native of Detroit was beloved by whites & blacks alike.

He had already steam rolled 6'6" 280 pound Primo Carnera in six rounds & shockingly annihilated Max Baer in four rounds. So when he was paired against ex-ex-ex-ex champion Schmeling nobody batted an eyelash.

Unfortunately for Louis, the crafty veteran of nearly sixty fights saw a fatal flaw in the machine, noticing that when Louis fired a jab he didn't bring it back to his chin, but just under it. That error was something Schmeling would exploit and would knock out Louis in the 12th round to become the #1 contender for Jimmy Braddock's crown.



While you didn't include the rematch in your list of upsets, it has to be stated that there was indeed a bit of concern and fear that the "Nazi Superman" would again beat Louis and take the title back to Germany. There was no guarantee that Louis would win, and that was the driving force behind millions of listeners tuning in around the world on radio that night. Pure joy and celebration for when Louis kayoed Schmeling in the first round.



In retrospect, Schmeling was something of a victim. He was royally screwed out of a fight with Braddock. Instead Braddock fought Louis. Political corruption, all the way around, just to ensure the title never went to Germany.

Schmeling, who helped hide out Jews during WW2, was vilified by the press as being Hitler's lapdog. And when he got his chance to get the title back, the referee basically allowed Louis to get away with murder. Getting hit in the back, breaking some vertebrae, resulted in Schmeling being absolutely helpless.

When he returned home to Germany, he was hated by his own countrymen. He'd continue boxing sporadically until 1948. Once upon a time he was a star of boxing as well as on the silver screen. Now he was international laughingstock. It'd take many years after the war before he'd manage to get out of obscurity and basically poverty becoming a spokesman for the Coca-Cola company.



His relationship with Joe Louis was the subject of a motion picture simply entitled JOE AND MAX (2002) which has become something of a classic amongst boxing fans.

[HomicideHenry]

Tarver vs Jones #1

Roy Jones was at the peak of his fame. He had just beaten John Ruiz for the WBA heavyweight title and there was much talk and speculation that he would fight Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Corrie Sanders or Lennox Lewis. Instead he went back down to 175-pounds, claiming that he could be a champion at two different divisions simultaneously.

His opponent was southpaw "Magic Man" Antonio Tarver who was the undefeated WBC champion with a record of 22-0-0. Even with wins over the likes of Montell Griffin & Reggie Johnson nobody saw him as anything else but a pretender & usurper of the crown that Jones would smack around with ease.

Needless to say, the fight was far closer than people would have thought, so much so that many felt that the majority decision for Jones was controversial which prompted an immediate rematch.



Jones vs Tarver #2

The much anticipated rematch between the two men was absolutely shocking. Most pundits and experts were certain that Jones' poor showing the last time out was because of the weight loss going from nearly 200 pounds to 175. They were confident that now Jones would be in great form. No excuses.

In the second round, Jones was laid out flat on his back. The first stoppage loss of Jones career. Completely unexpected. It was positively certain at this point the heavyweight dreams were absolutely over, and all that remained was trying to get revenge (and the belts).



If Jones thought a tune-up with "Road Warrior" Glenn Johnson would have helped improve his standing and odds against Tarver he was greatly mistaken, losing shockingly (again) by knockout.

Experts and pundits were the ones making excuses for Jones now. They said over and over again that the Ruiz experiment ruined him. That narrative still is echoed to this day by fans but the truth is more likely that Jones (36) was simply not the athletic spring chicken he once was.



Jones vs Tarver #3

But to end any existing doubt left, came the rubber match. Tarver, of course, won a relatively comfortable decision. Tarver was riding high now, starring as Mason "The Line" Dixon in the latest ROCKY movie, but would himself lose the title the following year to Bernard Hopkins. Jones would never be the same again, losing wide decisions to Joe Calzaghe & Bernard Hopkins as well as brutal knockout losses to Danny Green & Denis Lebedev.

[HomicideHenry]

McGuigan vs Cruz

The Clones Cyclone certainly was a favorite in the contest. Odds, though, shortened in the final hours before the fight. Cruz, 25-1-0, basically had defeated a string of nonentities, the exception being Rocky Garcia.

The fact that McGuigan, 29-1-0, was beaten unaminously despite being a 5-1 favorite by a guy who was basically a substitute (replacing Fernando Sosa) was startling. Regardless, it was the 1986 FOTY for many.

It's worth noting Cruz would lose the title in his maiden defense, and that McGuigan in 1988 claimed that his manager forced him to go through with the fight despite ankle & ear injuries. Barney Eastwood would sue for libel and was awarded $775,000. McGuigan & Channel 5 would pay out an additional $1.4 million dollars to cover court costs.

Certainly a case where excuse making will land you in not just deep trouble, but also lose some respect in the process.

[HomicideHenry]

Turpin vs Robinson #1

For me, personally, in retrospect this isn't as big an upset as one thinks. Robinson had 133 total fights in eleven years. Sure he only had one loss, but he was also 30 and back then fighters burnt out earlier than they do today because of fighting far more frequently.

But at the time this 40-2-1 Welshman who was basically unknown to American audiences was perceived as no threat. Looking at his record, it's clear he certainly was not some bum tomato can. After the Robinson fights he would beat Don Cockell who would later challenge Rocky Marciano for the heavyweight title.

Part of Turpin's success in the fight was really early on Robinson got cut inside his mouth, which was problematic throughout. Of course, Robinson would win the return bout (which was expected) but it's clear from this point on he was never the same again.



Not long after he'd lose to Joey Maxim in a bid for the Light Heavyweight title. And not long after that came losses to Basilio and Fullmer, etc--- and though they were avenged, it was clear he certainly lost his step ever since Turpin.

[Onetimeonly]

You're a effing stalker I swear or at the least a sadistic eff who gets off on watching drama. I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start your poo too.

Yeah, I stalk you while you have me on ignore. Once again you're the victim. Grow up and be a man for once in your life.

[Thunder and Lightning]

Johansson v Patterson 1&2 were pretty big upsets also Johansson v Machen

On a slightly obscure note Anders Eklund beating Steffen Tangstad for the european title was considered a major upset at the time

[Woldemar]

Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson



Keith Mullings vs Terry Norris

[Woldemar]

Manny Pacquiao vs Chatchai Sasakul

[Ambling Alp II]

Tarver vs Jones #1

Roy Jones was at the peak of his fame. He had just beaten John Ruiz for the WBA heavyweight title and there was much talk and speculation that he would fight Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Corrie Sanders or Lennox Lewis. Instead he went back down to 175-pounds, claiming that he could be a champion at two different divisions simultaneously.

His opponent was southpaw "Magic Man" Antonio Tarver who was the undefeated WBC champion with a record of 22-0-0. Even with wins over the likes of Montell Griffin & Reggie Johnson nobody saw him as anything else but a pretender & usurper of the crown that Jones would smack around with ease.

Needless to say, the fight was far closer than people would have thought, so much so that many felt that the majority decision for Jones was controversial which prompted an immediate rematch.



Jones vs Tarver #2

The much anticipated rematch between the two men was absolutely shocking. Most pundits and experts were certain that Jones' poor showing the last time out was because of the weight loss going from nearly 200 pounds to 175. They were confident that now Jones would be in great form. No excuses.

In the second round, Jones was laid out flat on his back. The first stoppage loss of Jones career. Completely unexpected. It was positively certain at this point the heavyweight dreams were absolutely over, and all that remained was trying to get revenge (and the belts).



If Jones thought a tune-up with "Road Warrior" Glenn Johnson would have helped improve his standing and odds against Tarver he was greatly mistaken, losing shockingly (again) by knockout.

Experts and pundits were the ones making excuses for Jones now. They said over and over again that the Ruiz experiment ruined him. That narrative still is echoed to this day by fans but the truth is more likely that Jones (36) was simply not the athletic spring chicken he once was.



Jones vs Tarver #3

But to end any existing doubt left, came the rubber match. Tarver, of course, won a relatively comfortable decision. Tarver was riding high now, starring as Mason "The Line" Dixon in the latest ROCKY movie, but would himself lose the title the following year to Bernard Hopkins. Jones would never be the same again, losing wide decisions to Joe Calzaghe & Bernard Hopkins as well as brutal knockout losses to Danny Green & Denis Lebedev.

Tarver-Jones I and III were not shocking upsets. Do you know what an upset is?

[HomicideHenry]

Tarver-Jones I and III were not shocking upsets. Do you know what an upset is?

Alp... It's just telling the back story and aftermath of the upset... It makes little sense not to explain WHY it was an upset (Tarver-Jones 2) without showing the first match, and showing the follow up bout is just icing on the cake.

[HomicideHenry]

Yeah, I stalk you while you have me on ignore. Once again you're the victim. Grow up and be a man for once in your life.

And if you know I have you on ignore you shouldn't bother taking potshots. And yet you ALWAYS do just to get a reaction, which makes you a creep.