Will Ruiz Honor the Immediate Rematch Clause?

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Perseus wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 23:02 The Kovalev loss to Alvarez did not happen in the same manner as the Joshua loss.
Kovalev was comfortably ahead when he got hurt and was rendered unable to continue shortly after. Kovalev already knew he could outbox Alvarez.

Joshua was not winning the fight, had been dropped multiple times and was reduced to being unwilling to continue.
That makes no sense. AJ hung in with half (or less) of his wits for nearly 4 rounds. He got off the canvas four times.

Sometimes it does not have to do with will.
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Ruiz wants the rematch in Mexico.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 08:22 Ruiz wants the rematch in Mexico.
I guess he'll be willing to travel to the location that provides him with the bigest payday. And I'm not sure if Mexico could do that, otherwise some of the biggest names from that country wouldn't almost exclusively compete on US soil.

That being said, if DAZN could build a sizable subscriber base in Mexico, then this could be possible.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 08:26 I guess he'll be willing to travel to the location that provides him with the bigest payday. And I'm not sure if Mexico could do that, otherwise some of the biggest names from that country wouldn't almost exclusively compete on US soil.

That being said, if DAZN could build a sizable subscriber base in Mexico, then this could be possible.
Are DAZN in Mexico at the moment?

The rematch will surely be on DAZN. Can’t see PBC taking over promotional rights. Must be in the contract. Who knows.

The fight will do better numbers on UK soil for Sky Box Office as it would be primetime.

Hearn seems adamant the fight will be in the UK.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 08:46 Are DAZN in Mexico at the moment?

The rematch will surely be on DAZN. Can’t see PBC taking over promotional rights. Must be in the contract. Who knows.

The fight will do better numbers on UK soil for Sky Box Office as it would be primetime.

Hearn seems adamant the fight will be in the UK.
I think you're right. There's no DAZN in Mexico. Televisión Azteca purchases the rights to televise boxing events as free-to-air events.

I don't know if there are future plans for DAZN to cover that territory though.
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There must be. They are not hemorrhaging enough money just yet :D
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Estadio Azteca has held over 100k people for NFL. For boxing they could push that to over 110000 with seats on the field
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https://www.BS.com/andy-ruiz-t ... m=facebook

"I'm the champ now I call the shots!"

Ruiz saying he wants the fight in Los Angeles or Mexico.

Also, did anyone else notice on Kimmel that Ruiz only came to the show with two belts instead of three?
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depends what the rematch clause he signed says

lol at it happening in mexico....pure fantasy
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HomicideHenry wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 22:07 https://www.BS.com/andy-ruiz-team-joshu ... m=facebook

"I'm the champ now I call the shots!"

Ruiz saying he wants the fight in Los Angeles or Mexico.

Also, did anyone else notice on Kimmel that Ruiz only came to the show with two belts instead of three?
Yeah i noticed that. Which one he left out?

Ruiz won clearly and fair. It's not like it was a lucky punch.
AJ should be graceful enough to concede him the rematch on US ground.
AJ shoud win on US ground if he wants to make a statement.
But it's a matter of business after all and not something they can choose I suppose.
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FruitStealer wrote: 06 Jun 2019, 02:23 Yeah i noticed that. Which one he left out?
He took his WBO and WBA 'Super' world heavyweight belts with him to the interview.

He left behind his IBF and IBO straps.

The rumour mill strongly suggests he'll be imminently stripped of the IBF title, due to Andy's contractual obligation to engage in the rematch with AJ instead of facing their mandatory challenger, Kubrat Pulev, with this situation mirroring Tyson Fury's title win over Wladimir Klitschko, because he also lost his IBF strap within days of becoming their champion.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 22:07

Also, did anyone else notice on Kimmel that Ruiz only came to the show with two belts instead of three?
The third one is away being lengthened.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 08:22 Ruiz wants the rematch in Mexico.
:clap: I love it!
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Hell, have it in Mexico City; mic the ring; and we can listen to the wheezing of the fighters.
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Andy Ruiz demands $50 million
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lol andy admitted to not having actually read the contract
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So now we're going to litigate the rematch clause? We'll know everything within a week, I'm certain of that. Calm down boyos!
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I don't think AJ can afford to be generous in fighting Ruiz in the Americas again. Forget the chivalry Josh and get him back to the UK where you are in your comfort zone. If you want to venture stateside again take on someone a little less taxing first and get a win under your belt before tackling someone serious.
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candyslim wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 16:51 I don't think AJ can afford to be generous in fighting Ruiz in the Americas again. Forget the chivalry Josh and get him back to the UK where you are in your comfort zone. If you want to venture stateside again take on someone a little less taxing first and get a win under your belt before tackling someone serious.
If he beats Ruiz in the USA, he kills every rumor and accusation about his 'stress' level, etc.
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candyslim wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 16:51 I don't think AJ can afford to be generous in fighting Ruiz in the Americas again. Forget the chivalry Josh and get him back to the UK where you are in your comfort zone. If you want to venture stateside again take on someone a little less taxing first and get a win under your belt before tackling someone serious.
Edit

Sorry misread your post

Apologies
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No problem but I agree with your post. It's just that he'd be a fool not to take any advantage going until he's back in the saddle and confident that he can jump the fences.
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candyslim wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 17:09 No problem but I agree with your post. It's just that he'd be a fool not to take any advantage going until he's back in the saddle and confident that he can jump the fences.
It all depends on what is in this rematch clause really.

None of us know what is nailed down in it or what is negotiable and Hearn doesn't seem to be saying too much about the details of it which I find surprising from him. Still time for that I suppose
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I heard ruiz gets 10mm and it is in london... thats whats in the contract

But obviously haymon figures its worth more now and im sure hearn does too
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I hadn't heard any numbers mentioned but Hearn confirmed the rematch clause. How could anybody doubt it? I mean some people dislike him, but I don't think I've heard anybody say that they don't think he's good at what he does. A fighter might not consider the possibility of defeat, but a manager/ adviser will. Hearn will have covered all the bases such as how much Ruiz gets paid and who decides on the location.

If you Jeff are saying it's 10 million, then that matches the figure I would have expected. Obviously the fight is worth more now, but it was always going to be in the event of Ruiz winning. There's no point bleating about it after you signed the contract, which of course is legally enforceable, the time to bitch about rematch terms is before signing to fight.

That's what Dillian Whyte did and it could be argued that's why Ruiz is holding four belts and Whyte isn't.
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Andy wouldn't have a number on the rematch clause. He honestly made much more than he was worth the first time. The rematch I don't see being a much bigger deal, huge as any aj fight in the UK, ignored in the States.
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