Whyte says Joshua lost because he wasn't taking his drugs

[Ilya Muromets]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/a ... e-16251306

[Ilya Muromets]

But in a different video online Whye said nothing about drugs. He just said Joshua looked very stange and - what struck me too - seemd so happy after he lost. I don't remember ever seeing a fighter look so happy after he lost, especially after he lost the world championship. Strange fight indeed.

[marvelous marv]

UKAD doesn't cover New York State. Maybe he had to be extra careful.

[Ilya Muromets]

UKAD doesn't cover New York State. Maybe he had to be extra careful.

That's what Whyte said.

[Ilya Muromets]

Whatever it was, he looked very very different, right from the start when he was just standing there hanging on the ropes playing with his mouthguard in his mouth, he looked pathetic, like he was lost in the woods. Then he looked so weirdly happy when he lost, after his "no mas". Maybe Whyte is right. Whyte has been saying that both Joshua and Wilder are dopers.

[tiny_acres]

Whatever it was, he looked very very different, right from the start when he was just standing there hanging on the ropes playing with his mouthguard in his mouth, he looked pathetic, like he was lost in the woods. Then he looked so weirdly happy when he lost, after his "no mas". Maybe Whyte is right.

But haven't you said that UK does better testing than vada?

[oogiebe]

Bollocks.

[Ilya Muromets]

But haven't you said that UK does better testing than vada?

No. They're all crooked.

[tiny_acres]

No. They're all crooked.

100% agree with you on that

[Ilya Muromets]

Bollocks.

One of Oogy's less articulate posts. Well some of us communicate in words and some by wagging their tails and growling or licking your face or posting cartoons.

Ha ha, just kidding you, Oogy!

[oogiebe]

One of Oogy's less articulate posts. Well some of us communicate in words and some by wagging their tails and growling or licking your face or posting cartoons.

Ha ha, just kidding you, Oogy!

[Enlightened-One]

AJ said the following on the matter a few months ago:

"But I am on ADAMS whereabouts (drug testing scheme), they have to know where I am for an hour every day and could walk in anytime. That is a lifetime commitment. I have been on that since 2012 and I pay £40,000-a-fight to be tested by VADA two times a week.

"It’s random drug testing, all year around with one and 12 weeks for a fight with the other."

As the WBA's champion, Anthony Joshua was automatically obliged to be tested by VADA anyway.

Wasn't Joshua tested by VADA for the Klitschko bout (as per the VADA website from the 3rd May, 2017).

Why is it that people don't know this? Is it because the rumour is more exciting than mundane reality?

[Ilya Muromets]

AJ said the following on the matter a few months ago:

"But I am on ADAMS whereabouts (drug testing scheme), they have to know where I am for an hour every day and could walk in anytime. That is a lifetime commitment. I have been on that since 2012 and I pay £40,000-a-fight to be tested by VADA two times a week.

"It’s random drug testing, all year around with one and 12 weeks for a fight with the other."

As the WBA's champion, Anthony Joshua was automatically obliged to be tested by VADA anyway.

Wasn't Joshua tested by VADA for the Klitschko bout (as per the VADA website from the 3rd May, 2017).

Why is it that people don't know this? Is it because the rumour is more exciting than mundane reality?

Seems that GGG is making the same insinuations. Like I said he looked so different, like he was lost in the woods, even before it started. And then his "no mas" quitting on his feet and his strangely garrulous and happy demeanor afterwards. Didn't he even ask his corner, "why do i feel like this" and "what shall i do?" Then his father arguing over something. What do you think? Maybe he really was concussed in round three.

[cormack]

Whyte says a lot of things !

[Deleted_Scenes]

If it is peds (which I actually don't believe is the reason), it won't be anything to do with how stringent VADA testing is vs UKAD. As others have said, Joshua has been routinely tested by both for years. It will be an undisclosed TUE, that he was approved for in the UK, but unable to get authorised in a different jurisdiction. I'm pretty sure that's actually what Whyte was alluding to.

I think it's much more likely something happened in camp, and they (Joshua) decided to go ahead with the fight instead of postponing.

What exactly, who knows? Maybe he got a concussion close to the fight (lethargic nature and neck massages indicate it's a possibility), maybe he had some kind of illness, maybe he just over trained and had nothing left in the tank for the actual fight. No idea. But the way his dad went at Hearn after the fight definitely says to me that he wanted Hearn to postpone. Joshua stepping in and saying "no dad, it was me, I did it" tells me it was Joshua's decision to go ahead and fight, not Hearn's.

Either way, that exchange post-fight doesn't fit with the ped argument.

[oogiebe]

Whyte says a lot of things !

Too many! But he's makes me laugh most the time.

[marvelous marv]

I thought for his last fight Joshua was UKAD but forced Povetkin to use VADA.

[Enlightened-One]

I thought for his last fight Joshua was UKAD but forced Povetkin to use VADA.

FFS! AJ has been tested by VADA for more than two years. Do your research. He use to be the WBA fûckîng champion for a couple of years. He spent £40k per annum being tested by VADA.

If you don’t believe me, then challenge what I say and let’s see how things pan out?

[oogiebe]

I thought for his last fight Joshua was UKAD but forced Povetkin to use VADA.

I thought I saw that somewhere too, but I can't remember now.

[ewenhay]

FFS! AJ has been tested by VADA for more than two years. Do your research. He use to be the WBA fûckîng champion for a couple of years. He spent £40k per annum being tested by VADA.

If you don’t believe me, then challenge what I say and let’s see how things pan out?

One observation. And I'm not pointing the finger at Joshua by stating this but it's important to clarify.

Joshua doesn't remain signed up to vada on a continuous basis. He signs on and off the programme.

[Enlightened-One]

One observation. And I'm not pointing the finger at Joshua by stating this but it's important to clarify.

Joshua doesn't remain signed up to vada on a continuous basis. He signs on and off the programme.

Does he do something different from other fighters? VADA doesn’t usually perform all year round testing for boxers.

[evrenb]

Joshua looked as though he had massive anxiety walking in to the ring. Similar to Bruno in his return with Tyson....as if the occasion got to him. Or an underlying reason was playing on his mind , or a combination of both.

[Verdi]

”If” he suddenly had withdrawn from taking testosterone, it'd explain why he was acting out of character.

[ewenhay]

Does he do something different from other fighters? VADA doesn’t usually perform all year round testing for boxers.

Correct.

And the other programme he signs up to is a whereabouts programme which testing bodies can use. Therefore testing bodies only use this when a fighter is signed up. Also, a large part of its remit is to administer TUEs

Again I'm not pointing the finger but Joshua has at least 6 months per year where he will not be subjected to testing.

The answer to all of this is year round testing both when in and out of competition. All existing methods are fundamentally flawed.

[Exoddus]

I would like to know which boxers have TUE's. As we all know pretty much all British cyclists have asthma.

People have tried to use the freedom of information act but to no avail

Joshua could have been diagnosed with asthma and low testosterone levels for all we know.

Until we can see what TUE's are in place there's no point talking about drugs and drug testing. As there is a system in place to allow legalized cheating.