barry wrote:>>>Barry, why is Theone being absurd?<<<
Although I never said he was being absurd, I'll give you two examples though...by saying that Rahman and McCall wopuld have knocked out Burns and Woodcock on the same night, or that Lewis was ten times better...take your pick!
>>>How can you be be serious about rating Burns over Lewis?<<<
As I said earlier...because Burns was never knocked out by mediocre heavyweights while in his prime.
>>>Do you really think that if Burns fought the exact same fighters who Lewis fought Lewis' career that Burns would have only lost twice?<<<
I don't know, neither do you and neither does theone!
>>>Do you really think Lewis would have lost 5 times and had 8 draws if he fought the exact same guys that Burns fought in Burns' career?<<<
Again I don't know, but with the shaky chin that Lewis possessed, it's a very good possibility!
>>>By the way Lewis was only counted out once. In the McCall fight, Lewis got up, but the referee stopped it.<<<
But both were a result of his opponents doing and not a police interference!
>>>I don't like Lewis much either, but you aren't being realistic.<<<
Why, because Lewis is 6' 5"? Or exactly what is being realistic and what would make it realistic? I admit that I am probably overly bias toward Lewis, but the facts of his career speaks for itself and the fact that he was knocked out by two less than stellar opponents while in his prime makes Lewis vulnerable to any good heavyweight that he stepped in the ring with!
Barry,
I didn't ask if you
knew what Burns would do against Lewis opponents, and what Lewis would do against Burns opponents; I asked what do
think?
Come on, don't duck the question. Do you really think that Burns would have lost more than 2 fights against Lewis competition and would Lewis have lost 5 and had 6 draws against Burns competition ?
Are you are also implying that since the police stopped the Burns-Johnson fight, that it wasn't a legitmate loss? Burns was completely dominated by Johnson, who was the only great heavyweight that Burns ever fought.
You say that Lewis would have vulnerable to any good heavyweight he stepped in the ring with? Lewis was only down twice in his career, by McCall and Rahman. The punch landed was an awesome punch that probably would have knocked almost any heavyweight champion out.
Lewis got up against McCall. Lewis wasn't decked by anyone else, and he fought several other guys who could punch.
You don't think Burns would have been vulnerable against Holyfield, Tyson
(even at the ages that Lewis fought them at), or Mercer, Tua, Klitschko, and Ruddock?
Just because Burns didn't get knocked out by Hart, O'Brien and Flynn doesn't prove he had a great chin.