Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 21:03
No I don’t mean his body, I know that doesn’t mean nothing I’ve never been caught up on that I know better, I’ve been involved in pro boxing a very very long time, What I meant was he as openly said he has trained himself, cut corners diet wise and been inactive and not taken it as seriously has he should at times, where as I believe now he will train and be like a man possessed
Got it. I've said he'd get better simply by having Manny Robles rather than train himself, or his time with Abel Sanchez, so not so much different!
ewenhay wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 19:01
The challenge for the Ruiz camp will be keeping him focused and making sure he turns up hungry and in shape. Being heavyweight champion brings a hell of a lot of distractions.
I really don't think Joshua will do anything differently. He'll just try to do the things he can do better than he did last weekend.
Use his jab to keep him at bay, avoid using the power right hand as he doesn't bring his hands back fast enough, fight on the backfoot more, clinch more on the inside.
ender77 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 04:30
He needs to focus more on speed and less on physique and strength.
Whyte , Klitschko and now Ruiz have all shown AJ is very vulnerable to counter shots when he opens up with hooks.
Fighters will now just look to time him with counter shots, similar to how Danny Garcia caught Khan and whenever AJ has been tagged his legs give way just like Khan.
The aura is also gone, when Ruiz caught Joshua he opened up and went for it , whereas Whyte and Klitschko never went for it.
Joshua needs to win the rematch in devastating fashion similar to how Wilder knocked out Breazeale and he is not going to do that boxing on the back foot like he tried to in the first fight.
Robert Mccracken knows AJ is vulnerable, hence why he was telling him to just focus on straight shots.
I see something very similar with David Price, if Price was to take the centre of ring and box on the front foot just throwing straight punches he would win a lot more fights. Yet he backs of allowing smaller opponents to out maneuver him and this also means he uses up excess energy and gases.
Joshua like Price despite winning Olympic Gold and multiple world titles does not have the technical ability of a Tyson Fury that would enable him box of the backfoot.
ender77 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 04:30
The aura is also gone, when Ruiz caught Joshua he opened up and went for it , whereas Whyte and Klitschko never went for it.
The main difference was that Klitschko was just trying to load up on single shots (mainly the left hook which Joshua was able to duck) while Whyte just didn't have the accuracy of Ruiz.
This was the first time Joshua has been hit with accurate combinations and he couldn't deal with it, so he'll need to work that out otherwise the rematch will go the same way.
ender77 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 07:02
Your right, I just watched it again, Ruiz was relentless with the combinations, even when Joshua ducked or blocked the first or second shot he was unable to deal with the speed of the follow-up punches and just backed up in a straight line.
After you block or duck the first combo, you take a step forward and tie him up.
When the referee breaks you, you then try and catch him coming in, if you don't connect, take a step forward and tie him up.
Rewind and Repeat
JimStone wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 09:12
If he fought to his full height he'd keep his vulnerable head further away from danger. He frequently came down to Ruiz' height, which was stupid.
I agree with that, those potter patter jobs to the body are asking for trouble
After watching it (yet again), it is going to be hard for AJ to get over how TFKoB got up from and walked through his shots in round 3. Psychologically he has got to be thinking that he cannot stop him.
After watching that round so many times, I have the same doubt. No way should TFKoB have been able to get off the canvas that clear eyed. No way should a 6 footish fat man have been able to walk through the shots he did and still have the wits, legs, and power to noodlize AJ.
That has got to be the first step; getting his head straight. If he can’t do that he should not be rematching the Mexican-American wolverine. This was not a close decision. This was not a Hail Mary.
It also was not just a boxing lesson. AJ hit TFKoB with everything he had and it essentially just pissed the real life Rocky off.
You don’t volunteer to get in a cage with a wolverine unless you are crazy or you have overwhelming firepower. AJ is not crazy and he found out a week ago that he does not have the firepower.
Boxingcutsman wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 20:56
I honestly can’t see any different outcome no matter what Joshua changes, I always thought Ruiz would beat him my only doubt was would he be big enough, he showed he was capable of navigating the size difference with ease and showed he was strong enough to push Joshua back, I can’t see what Joshua can improve so greatly on to deal with Ruiz speed, combinations, movement, chin and overall boxing ability, whereas I can see Ruiz now take boxing seriously and really dedicate himself and only get better
On your last part about Ruiz taking boxing seriously. I’d be interested to know what his earnings have been like, as I believe earnings obviously have an effect with regards to affording a support team, ie nutritional help etc... Maybe now one of the big prep food companies can make him a poster boy? No better man to show your companies worth than the HW Champ..
JimStone wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 10:12
Nonsense. He has the firepower to stop any heavyweight in the division. Firepower is the least of his problems.
He emptied his weapons with little to no effect on TFKoB. No visible effect on his legs. No visible effect on his brain. No visible effect on his arsenal.
“Firepower is the least of his problems?” Easy for you to say. He hit TFKoB flush with multiple howitzers. The wolverine just kept coming.
That is a serious psychological hurdle to overcome going into the rematch. It won’t get any better rewatching it.
AJ has NOT proven that “he has the firepower to stop” TFKoB.
So you are saying AJ should spend the few short months leading to the rematch working on his firepower?
I say that would be foolish and a waste of precious time.
He dropped a guy who had never been dropped before with the first and only meaningful punch he landed that Ruiz didn't see coming. That does not suggest a firepower problem. Quite the opposite.
SAPFO wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 10:26
On your last part about Ruiz taking boxing seriously. I’d be interested to know what his earnings have been like, as I believe earnings obviously have an effect with regards to affording a support team, ie nutritional help etc... Maybe now one of the big prep food companies can make him a poster boy? No better man to show your companies worth than the HW Champ..
Very true mate, I hope people and companies do get behind him, it’s hard enough sport as it is but even harder when your trying to make it and haven’t got the financial backing or support of companies to help with Costs associated with training, I.e nutrition, physio, kit, travel, paying sparring partners and other costs associated with that, Medicals etc, it all adds up and can be very distracting
hearn is saying Nov or Dec
so he has a 5/6 month camp .
Too little time for major changes so he has to develop the things he does well ie fighting at distance with solid jab.
They can work on his defence in key areas like head movement .
But perhaps staying on the outside and fighting from that range is the way to beat Ruiz .
If he gets drawn in close then that hand speed is going to beat him.
I just watched AJ v Whyte again and its clear he gets hit easily on the inside .
Mccracken stays but a 23 man entourage ? really ?
ewenhay wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 11:05
I expected it to be higher to be honest.
It’s extremely hard to knockout another professionally trained fighter, who is fit, conditioned to take punches, strong, a athlete who is experienced and as a plan of their own, to stop 2/3’s of opponents is good going, you can’t always compare % of stoppages as a measuring gauge as who hits harder, or if someone is a massive puncher, it doesn’t always tell the full story, I think we saw a prime example of that with 67% ko Vs a 96% ko fighters with Ruiz Vs Joshua, who’s power was more telling.
