Katie Taylor vs. Delfine Persoon: Undisputed Fight - 1 June 2019

[kevo]

Just checked, it was 10x2

Yeah, more stoppages would be great for the sport. Shields seemingly can't punch for shit

[JxhDel.]

Yeh. A standing 8 count or a 10-8 would have had Delfine the winner, rightly.

Hope we'll see a rematch soon, this is as open as it gets

[Ruthless-RKO]

[brilo33]

There's nothing wrong with being natio alistic and patriotic but where does compassion and logic come in? We have a fighter who was absolutely robbed and worked hard her whole life to get in that position only to be shafted. To celebrate and gloat over a "win" like that shows a lack of class and sheer disrespect and bad sportsmanship. I always like to err on the side of fairness and integrity. If a fighter gets robbed it leaves a sour taste in the mouth no matter who is on the receiving end. I can't believe the lack of class shown to celebrate that. Taylor should be coming out saying she lost the fight and will give persoon a rematch asap.

When Henry handled the ball and scored a goal to put ireland out of a tournament there was uproar about how unfair and unjust it was. When the shoe is on the other foot there is nothing but celebration of a robbery. I may sound like I'm being overzealous here but I really feel for persoon and to be honest I find the whole Taylor celebrations and excuses to be sickening quite frankly

first time i saw the fight i thought taylor lost by a few rds, ive watched it again with the old man a limerick man he thought draw , Taylor threw the cleaner shots boxed well last couple of rds were her worst , the belgium girl was crude and missed a lot but no doubt i think she threw as many punches in the 1st as she did in the last 10 , i still think taylor lost but it was close, and there nothing wrong with backing your own , i find there is sometimes there is a snobbishness when people dig out mcgregor,what about hogan the other week he got robbed , i love katie taylor i remember when she won that gold in london , yea she might off lost on the cards not her fault , if i were in Dublin i would come out to welcome our world champion home

[John]

i love katie taylor i remember when she won that gold in london , yea she might off lost on the cards not her fault

right on the nail

[Betro09]

Persoon was robbed. Will and determination defeated technique and a better boxer, audience and viewers saw it, judges did not. What a shame.

Another shame is, Katie Taylor and entourage will probably avoid a rematch.

[straali]

Having not purchased the PPV and being offshore with work I just caught up with the bill via Sky on demand.
My God, Persoon has a hideous style but is game as they come. She looks ridiculously ungainly when she walks in, squaring her stance and throwing ugly hooks.
Taylor is streets ahead stylistically but Persoon out fought her and deserved the win.
If there’s a rematch I’d expect Taylor to try and engage less and use her speed and movement from range but with someone as relentless as Persoon that may be easier said than done.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Katie Taylor: I'm Undisputed, I Don't Care What Anyone Says!

A lot of observers, including the broadcast panel at DAZN, saw Persoon as the winner.

Some observers had even called it a robbery.

Taylor believes that she did enough to win the fight, by banking points in the early rounds.

There is an outcry for a rematch - and Taylor believes that a rematch will eventually go down - and she hopes that it takes place in the near future.

"The general consensus is that it was a very close fight. But I think that I definitely deserved to win the fight," Taylor told Sky Sports.

"I definitely did enough in the early rounds to win the fight. I'm happy that it did go that way and I'm now sitting here as the undisputed champion and I really couldn't care less what anybody else says.

"The rematch is inevitable at some time and I'm happy to give her a rematch at any point. We'll see what happens over the next few months but I do look forward to the rematch soon."

[TheLeprechaun]

Persoon was robbed. Will and determination defeated technique and a better boxer, audience and viewers saw it, judges did not. What a shame.

Another shame is, Katie Taylor and entourage will probably avoid a rematch.

Taylor may have retained her irrational Irish fans but she lost a lot of fans outside of Ireland and inside too. She has been given a gift of a pure robbery and shown absolutely no class in the aftermath.

[TheLeprechaun]

"The general consensus is that it was a very close fight. But I think that I definitely deserved to win the fight," Taylor told Sky Sports.

The general consensus, outside of Ireland, is that Persoon got robbed.

[keirw]

Persoon didn't get any points for style, that's for sure. But for aggression, particularly effective aggression, she did enough to win the fight by 3-4 rounds for me.

She looked so big and strong and she simply threw and landed more punches.

Taylor was clearly the better boxer and landed the better shots but was beaten to the punch far too often.

I won't hold anything against Taylor though, she fought her heart out and left evetything in the ring. She is well within her rights to celebrate.

Would love to see a rematch though.

Taylor may be well schooled, but her style is very front foot heavy and she will always be willing to take shots to land her own.
Which, given Persoon's and crude but effective fighting style, will always make for a good fight between these two.

[TheLeprechaun]

Persoon didn't get any points for style, that's for sure. But for aggression, particularly effective aggression, she did enough to win the fight by 3-4 rounds for me.

She looked so big and strong and she simply threw and landed more punches.

Taylor was clearly the better boxer and landed the better shots but was beaten to the punch far too often.

I won't hold anything against Taylor though, she fought her heart out and left evetything in the ring. She is well within her rights to celebrate.

Would love to see a rematch though.

Taylor may be well schooled, but her style is very front foot heavy and she will always be willing to take shots to land her own.
Which, given Persoon's and crude but effective fighting style, will always make for a good fight between these two.

Taylor's style isn't about taking shots to give shots

[keirw]

Taylor's style isn't about taking shots to give shots

I'm sure she doesn't intend to going into the fights, but it's what she ends up doing more often than not.

She takes a fair bit of punishment in fights but it doesn't deter her from coming forward.

That's why she is the most entertaining female fighter out there.

[straali]

One of the things about that the growing profile of women’s pro boxing is that many of the male commentators are actually condescending by being unrealistically positive in praising the fighters. Johnny Nelson gushing about Taylor being an absolute fighting machine or whatever...she has generally faced significantly inferior opponents as a pro and, in Persoon, faces her toughest test and often looked second best. Persoon was the fighting machine on the night.
Genuine progress and acceptance of the women’s code will come when the coverage is more critical and realistic because the opposite is actually doing good fighters a disservice.

[TheLeprechaun]

I'm sure she doesn't intend to going into the fights, but it's what she ends up doing more often than not.

She takes a fair bit of punishment in fights but it doesn't deter her from coming forward.

That's why she is the most entertaining female fighter out there.

She is not really entertaining. Her style is to throw punches and then move away. She will throw punches whether the opening is there or not so ends up hitting gloves most of the time. She doesn't really come forward and didn't vs Persoon, she was on the backfoot all night. She ends up taking punishment because she hasn't really got the power to totally deter her opponents and they just come forward and take some shots to land some shots

[ironbeard]

The general consensus, outside of Ireland, is that Persoon got robbed.

Too close to be a robbery. Persoon did not do enough first half. Finishing stronger than your opponent in the last round gets you exactly 1 round.

Lobby for rules changes if you don’t like it.

[TheLeprechaun]

Too close to be a robbery. Persoon did not do enough first half. Finishing stronger than your opponent in the last round gets you exactly 1 round.

Lobby for rules changes if you don’t like it.

Tell me what rounds Taylor won

[ironbeard]

I had 1, 3, 4, 6 and 9 for Taylor

95-95 realtime

[keirw]

She is not really entertaining. Her style is to throw punches and then move away. She will throw punches whether the opening is there or not so ends up hitting gloves most of the time. She doesn't really come forward and didn't vs Persoon, she was on the backfoot all night. She ends up taking punishment because she hasn't really got the power to totally deter her opponents and they just come forward and take some shots to land some shots

She has been in some really good scraps.
Sure, she likes to stick and move as much as she can, but she tends to get dragged into wars in fights.

When the red mist sets in she will meet her opponent in the middle of the ring. That was her downfall against Persoon, who was beating her to the punch.

Instead of moving side to side and looking for counters she was trying to push her back and failing to do so, particularly in the last couple rounds.

I find her entertaining and look forward to the potential rematch.

[TheLeprechaun]

She has been in some really good scraps.
Sure, she likes to stick and move as much as she can, but she tends to get dragged into wars in fights.

When the red mist sets in she will meet her opponent in the middle of the ring. That was her downfall against Persoon, who was beating her to the punch.

Instead of moving side to side and looking for counters she was trying to push her back and failing to do so, particularly in the last couple rounds.

I find her entertaining and look forward to the potential rematch.

She gets dragged into wars when she can't comfortably box from range and keep the fight at distance. She is pillow fisted so girls have waded in like Persoon did and Taylor had no choice but to stand and fight at times. It doesn't matter how good or fast you are if you opponent is dead set on taking your punches to land their own. You are talking like she can outbox anyone but decides not to when that's not the case. She is overhyped, always has been. Estelle Mossely beat her as an amateur and won the gold medal when Taylor got dumped out of the Olympics so I'm not sure how she was the best of all time on that basis and that's not even taking into account the robbery vs Persoon.

[keirw]

She gets dragged into wars when she can't comfortably box from range and keep the fight at distance. She is pillow fisted so girls have waded in like Persoon did and Taylor had no choice but to stand and fight at times. It doesn't matter how good or fast you are if you opponent is dead set on taking your punches to land their own. You are talking like she can outbox anyone but decides not to when that's not the case. She is overhyped, always has been. Estelle Mossely beat her as an amateur and won the gold medal when Taylor got dumped out of the Olympics so I'm not sure how she was the best of all time on that basis and that's not even taking into account the robbery vs Persoon.

I have never claimed she is the best of all time

I also never claimed she gets dragged into wars by choice, it would be a contradiction if I did.

I just enjoy watching her fights more than any other female boxer I have seen.

Is that a crime?

Does you're dislike of Taylor make it illegal for others to like or respect her?

[ironbeard]

I have never claimed she is the best of all time

I also never claimed she gets dragged into wars by choice, it would be a contradiction if I did.

I just enjoy watching her fights more than any other female boxer I have seen.

Is that a crime?

Does you're dislike of Taylor make it illegal for others to like or respect her?

He’s a leprechaun, ffs, he’s always pissed.