Why the referee helped Wilder in the fight against Luis Ortiz?

[gilgamesh]

The rule is the rule, and I don't particularly like it at all. Any rule that delays action due to a fighter's condition from a previous round (aside from cuts and such) has no place in the sport. That should be during the 60 seconds in between rounds or not at all.

I'm with ya. The rule never existed that I saw prior to Wilder vs Ortiz 1 though. It's like they invented it just on the fly because they needed it, and then have used it since to pretend it existed the whole time. I'd never seen it prior to this fight.

Whatever the case though, yes you and I are in agreement that it's a stupid rule.

[oogiebe]

I'm with ya. The rule never existed that I saw prior to Wilder vs Ortiz 1 though. It's like they invented it just on the fly because they needed it, and then have used it since to pretend it existed the whole time. I'd never seen it prior to this fight.

Whatever the case though, yes you and I are in agreement that it's a stupid rule.

For the record I saw it invoked before that weekend. I just can't remember against who. I posted it elsewhere. I don't really care enough to search through posts like EO.

[gilgamesh]

For the record I saw it invoked before that weekend. I just can't remember against who. I posted it elsewhere. I don't really care enough to search through posts like EO.

Nobody does

[oogiebe]

Nobody does

Hopefully not!

[Enlightened-One]

I'm with ya. The rule never existed that I saw prior to Wilder vs Ortiz 1 though. It's like they invented it just on the fly because they needed it, and then have used it since to pretend it existed the whole time. I'd never seen it prior to this fight.

Whatever the case though, yes you and I are in agreement that it's a stupid rule.

The rule has existed for quite some time and it seems to have been adopted by all the sports' governing bodies.

[Enlightened-One]

The Chief Medical Officer to the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) wrote the following paper on the standardised best practice guidelines that ringside physicians should follow to determine whether they need more time to evaluate the neurological status of a fighter:

Good versus bad medical stoppages in boxing: Stopping a fight in time

It adequately addresses the referee’s actions and also details the anticipated criticisms that are likely to result from implementing this standard rule.

[Tony1244]

I have never seen anything like this before and neither have you and if u think u have show me the film. Now of course refs bend the rules to give the fave extra time after a knockdown like someone mentioned happened with Joshua the other night, but stopping a fight when the cash cow money star is wobbled to have the ring doctor examine him, nope never saw that.

You've watched very little or no boxing out of NY State then.

[Ilya Muromets]

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑Today, 13:54
Can't you see how easily something like that can be - and was - abused?

Maybe the problem is mine. I'm looking at boxing as if it was a logical rational legitimate sport rather than the "sports entertainment" it really is, just like wrestling.

Referees are not trained to identify serious head injuries and there have been fatalities in boxing due to fighters being allowed to continue competing whilst being hurt and without being evaluated by the ringside physician.

As far as I’m concerned, the safety of a fighter takes precedence over anything else, regardless of whether the consequences of the doctor’s inspection results in the consumption of several valuable seconds that could potentially affect the outcome of a contest.

The primary concern of a referee is to prevent unnecessary damage to the boxer's health during the course of the bout.

I hope you agree?

Then he shouldn't even let them punch each other because as it stands now the object of the game is to knock your opponent silly and better yet unconscious or at least prone on the floor. Does the ref suddenly become a Gillette #MeToo fay fellow when the house's favored fighter gets wobbled? "Omigod! Ring doctor help come quick so and so looks wobbly! Maybe he'll fall down and hurt himself!"

[Ilya Muromets]

You've watched very little or no boxing out of NY State then.

Meanwhile the other one says it's a NY state rule!!! Well, I challenge any of you to produce a vid of a fight, in or out of NYS, with a similar ref-ring doctor interruption.

[oogiebe]

Meanwhile the other one says it's a NY state rule!!! Well, I challenge any of you to produce a vid of a fight, in or out of NYS, with a similar ref-ring doctor interruption.

Tony and I and a third poster posted that we'd seen it happen. Both Tony and I told you it's a NYSAC rule, and another poster showed you the WBC rules on this topic. I'm not going to now do search on vids or other sources. Believe what you want. I don't really care enough to carry on this conversation.

[dagilechia]

Probably because he was biased. But if it's really a NY rule then it is rare that i haven't seen something similar before, or at least i can't recall, and i have seen hundreds of NY fights.

That said, i think that Wilder would win anyway (but who knows...).

[jamamb]

ppl care too much about this topic, at this point id rather discuss the contents of andy ruizs sh!ts

[oogiebe]

ppl care too much about this topic, at this point id rather discuss the contents of andy ruizs sh!ts

One or two big craps = a good 6 LBS! LMAO!

[Tony1244]

Meanwhile the other one says it's a NY state rule!!! Well, I challenge any of you to produce a vid of a fight, in or out of NYS, with a similar ref-ring doctor interruption.

I've watched many fights where this happened. You're asking me to do work- research. I need money or college credit for that, and I don't care about the later anymore.

[Ilya Muromets]

I've watched many fights where this happened. You're asking me to do work- research. I need money or college credit for that, and I don't care about the later anymore.

Ha ha no u haven't. I was prepared to give u college credits for yr research but money would be unethical and might besmirch my sterling reputation.

[oogiebe]

Ha ha no u haven't. I was prepared to give u college credits for yr research but money would be unethical and might besmirch my sterling reputation.

Now you're just being annoying.

[Ilya Muromets]

Tony and I and a third poster posted that we'd seen it happen. Both Tony and I told you it's a NYSAC rule, and another poster showed you the WBC rules on this topic. I'm not going to now do search on vids or other sources. Believe what you want. I don't really care enough to carry on this conversation.

Well, Oogy's gone.

When u pin these guys down on all these times they saw something just like this before it turns out they saw something else entirely, a doctor examining a fighter between rounds or the like.

Why is it so hard for them to just say, "Ha ha yeah sure it was crooked boxing is crooked so what else is new?!" Is it like a religion to them? Is it blasphemy to question the veracity of boxing?

[Ilya Muromets]

Now you're just being annoying.

Silence! U R supposed to be gone.

[oogiebe]

Silence! U R supposed to be gone.

LMFAO! My cover is blown!