BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking - Question

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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 11:02 Dude - you are well respected on the boxing threads. Just stay off OT. I should as well as the heat can get pretty hot over there as you're dealing with social and political issues that many posters love to attack opposing views and unpopular stances. No need to leave because of that. We're all here for BOXING. That's the important topic here.
I never knew there was an off topic forum!
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ewenhay wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 11:06 I never knew there was an off topic forum!
It's dominated by several very 'strong opinioned' posters. Very difficult on serious thread topics to have an open conversation. It gets very 'aggressive.'
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 11:13 It's dominated by several very 'strong opinioned' posters. Very difficult on serious thread topics to have an open conversation. It gets very 'aggressive.'
Just the same as on topic then!!
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ewenhay wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 12:15 Just the same as on topic then!!
In reality it is Offal Topic.
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ppl tend to support deleting threads if they dont agree with them or it doesnt lean there way politically
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 11:02 Dude - you are well respected on the boxing threads. Just stay off OT. I should as well as the heat can get pretty hot over there as you're dealing with social and political issues that many posters love to attack opposing views and unpopular stances. No need to leave because of that. We're all here for BOXING. That's the important topic here.
well, maybe you are right, i will stay in CS only. to be honest, boxing is a niche sport and i don't have a lot of friends that i can talk with about boxing in real life. so i need to do it online, there is probably no better alternative than BoxRec.
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jamamb wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 12:43 ppl tend to support deleting threads if they dont agree with them or it doesnt lean there way politically
it happened to me multiple times. never got answer when i asked ''what is actually wrong with that topic''. today the reason was ''because it's boring''.
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dagilechia wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:14 well, maybe you are right, i will stay in CS only. to be honest, boxing is a niche sport and i don't have a lot of friends that i can talk with about boxing in real life. so i need to do it online, there is probably no better alternative than BoxRec.
Glad to hear it! A wise choice! Besides, what would you do without me??? :OhYes:
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:17 Glad to hear it! A wise choice! Besides, what would you do without me??? :OhYes:
yes, you are a good CS poster :TU: funny but with interesting opinion on boxing-related topics :salut:

this forum is not that bad really, it used to have more active users, but it's ok and it has way less trolls than any other boxing forum that i have been to in past.
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dagilechia wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:20 yes, you are a good CS poster :TU: funny but with interesting opinion on boxing-related topics :salut:

this forum is not that bad really, it used to have more active users, but it's ok and it has way less trolls than any other boxing forum that i have been to in past.
Gracias. So let's get on with it then! :TU:
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ironbeard wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 09:17 Pure democracy ain’t what it is cracked up to be by the Populists.
It's the worst system there is ... with the exception of all the others :D
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candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:23 It's the worst system there is ... with the exception of all the others :D
:lol: How true!
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candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:23 It's the worst system there is ... with the exception of all the others :D
:shame: It employs zero protections for minorities of any kind. It recognizes zero inalienable rights.

The majority can be and has been wrong many times. Pure democracy is tyranny of the masses.
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There's no reason why it shouldn't. I don't believe the failures you describe are a consequence of a particular form of government, in fact I'd back democracy to resolve those issues before most of the alternatives.
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dagilechia wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 05:46 due to censorship on this forum and a bias towards certain views and prejudice towards others
In other words, if you're an anti-Semitic prick who keeps trying to create threads to slander an ethnicity, then f*ck off. There's no reason you should be mad that you can't keep creating anti-Semitic threads. There's no good reason to have wanted to create them in the first place. There's something wrong with you.
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Lackeos wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 23:58 In other words, if you're an anti-Semitic prick who keeps trying to create threads to slander an ethnicity, then f*ck off. There's no reason you should be mad that you can't keep creating anti-Semitic threads. There's no good reason to have wanted to create them in the first place. There's something wrong with you.
it was not anti-semitic, i am not anti-semitic. what makes me anti-semitic? using the forbidden taboo words like ''Jews''? you can make threads about anyone but them. the last thread i made was about Israeli football player (muslim btw) who came up with completely false historical statements, and uefa didn't reacted of course. if you think that i want to ''slander an ethnicity'', then you, like most of those idiots who attack me, not even bothered to read what i wrote.

also, some of my topics that were not related to the Jews were deleted as well.
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dagilechia wrote: 10 Jun 2019, 17:24 Różański is not a ''prospect'' at all - he started his pro career 29, he is 33 now, he has no amateur background, he was a friend and sparringpartner of Przemysław Saleta. He is a short brawler with no techinque skills. but what he has is undoubtedly punching power. we don't know nothing about his chin or stamina so far (he went 4 rounds only once, the rest ended up in 1 or 2). His most notable wins are over totally shot Albert Sosnowski (KO 1), and Michael Sprott (KO 2, in comparison, Sprott lasted 5 rounds vs Demirezen 6 months before).

As i said, he is not very skillful so don't expect to see him jabbing a lot, he relies only on pressure and volume punching (most of his punches are hooks). We know that Izu also have stamina problem and seems that his chin is not too durable, so Różański will be a threat in the first 3-4 rounds, no doubt. I think that Izu should outjab him in the first 4-5 rounds and then try to knock him out, we don't know about Łukasz's stamina too much but he doesn't look like a guy who should look fresh in the later rounds.

Izu is a favourite but this fight will be held in Różański's hometown Rzeszów, on the football stadium of a team that he is a fan of, and it's Różański's promoter event. We know how boxing is, it is an important factor as well.

My prediction is: Ugonoh by KO in 4-5 after a brawl or Ugonoh by KO in 6-8 after outjabbing and tiring Różański. By Różański by early KO is a possibility, no dount. Izu's last fight was against Breazeale and it was 28 months ago (i don't count the joke fight vs Kassi) + it will be his first fight with new trainer.

This is going to be a good event. One of the best LHW prospects in the world 12(11)-0 Paweł Stępień will face decent Polish/Euro level 16(7)-1(0)-1 Marek Matyja. Stępień is a tall fighter, with very good punching power, decent techincal skills, in defence he relies too much on his reflex though, he is good, my favourite Polish prospect, but he is not RJJ. He gets hit too easy, in his last fight he was knocked down by Dmitry Sukhotskiy. I hope he will not fight like that the next time. It was his fault, sometimes seems like he's not taking the opponents seriously. He is a very good body/liver puncher - in 2017/2018 he scored an impressive streak of 5 bodypunch KO's in a row, in total of 16 rounds + the opposition was not that bad at this stage of career (undefeated, euro-level, skilled Cuban Daryon Lester, durable journeyman Yevgeni Makhteienko, among others).

Fantastic, 23 years old, Ukraine-born, Poland-based MW/SMW 12(8)-0 prospect Fiodor Czerkaszyn will finally step up to face 20(12)-2(0)-1 Australian Wes Capper . Fiodor Łapin, who is a trainer of CW champions Krzysztof Głowacki and Krzysztof Włodarczyk, EBU champion Kamil Szeremeta, among others, said that Czerkaszyn is the biggest talent he's ever worked with. As a young fighter he had +400 fights in different fighting formulas. Strong, skilled, good jab, he is, like Stępień, good body/liver puncher as well - some call him ''Mr Liver''. He recently sparred with Callum Smith. At this point, it is hard to find flaws in his boxing, Capper will be his first step up though.

also: MW EBU champion Kamil Szeremeta (his opponent still TBA), decent 7(5)-0 SMW prospect Mateusz Tryc against a tough journeyman Ivan Murashkin on the card.

It maybe doesn't sounds too interesting for non-Polish fans, but the match-ups seem to be entertaining, and we will see some prospect that have the world title potential so it's worth of watch.

Some of Różański's KO's (he brutally knocked Sosnowski out but i can't find it on youtube, i have found on the other site though):

Thanks for that Dagi. I don't know about "Off Topic" it doesn't interest me, but you would be a big loss to the boxing forum(s) though, with your in depth knowledge of the Polish scene, as well as your more general contributions. I really hope you decide to stick around :TU:
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candyslim wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 02:30 Thanks for that Dagi. I don't know about "Off Topic" it doesn't interest me, but you would be a big loss to the boxing forum(s) though, with your in depth knowledge of the Polish scene, as well as your more general contributions. I really hope you decide to stick around :TU:
i will stay in the Current Scene, after all, i came to this forum to talk about boxing in the first place :TU: and after +6 years of presence on here, it's like a black hole, it's not so easy to just leave :lol:
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dagilechia wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 02:54 i will stay in the Current Scene, after all, i came to this forum to talk about boxing in the first place :TU: and after +6 years of presence on here, it's like a black hole, it's not so easy to just leave :lol:
My man! :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 11:52 My man! :TU:
:clap: :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Jun 2019, 13:24 :lol: How true!
Democracy, Balkan's way : a small criminal - head off, a big criminal - hat off.
Don't try to convince me the opposite. :shame:
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dagilechia wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 02:54
it's not so easy to just leave :lol:
Altogether now - Welcome to the Hotel California :D
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candyslim wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 15:20 Altogether now - Welcome to the Hotel California :D
:lol: What a lovely place!
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oogiebe wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 15:21 :lol: What a lovely place!
Yes ! :clap:
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candyslim wrote: 12 Jun 2019, 02:30 Thanks for that Dagi. I don't know about "Off Topic" it doesn't interest me, but you would be a big loss to the boxing forum(s) though, with your in depth knowledge of the Polish scene, as well as your more general contributions. I really hope you decide to stick around :TU:
Looks like Różański takes this fight very seriously - he spars with Michael Hunter and Krzysztof Zimnoch (who is preparing himself for a CW debut). I am not 100% sure but looks like Hunter will start to work with Polish fitness/athletic coach Jakub Chycki - so maybe he will regularly spar in Poland
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