Tyson Fury disses Anthony Joshua

[ILikeBeer]

Tyson Fury believes former world champion Anthony Joshua is "finished" after his shock defeat by Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua, 29, gave up his IBF, WBA and WBO titles in a seventh-round stoppage loss to Ruiz in New York on 1 June.

In a wide-ranging interview with BBC Sport before his Las Vegas bout with Tom Schwarz on Saturday, Fury said Joshua did not want to be in the ring.

"When a man doesn't want to be there once, he will always do it and it's hard to come back from," said Fury.

"He did it that night and I don't think he will come back from it. Finished. Ask any top trainer who has been around the sport a lifetime. When he got to the ring I saw he didn't want to be there.

"Everybody thought that man could beat me. In what world could he ever beat me? What were people seeing? I don't know what people were looking at as I don't know in what world he could have beaten me."

Joshua's first career defeat halted talk of any immediate fight with Fury or WBC champion Deontay Wilder as the 2012 Olympic champion is now intent on fulfilling a rematch with Ruiz.

Fury, who battled mental health and drug issues before returning to the sport after a 31-month spell of inactivity in June of 2018, believes Joshua will lose the repeat fixture.

In referencing Ruiz's much publicised fleshy physique and his own win over Wladimir Klitschko in 2015, Fury told 5 Live Boxing's Mike Costello and Steve Bunce that such results prove "body types mean nothing in boxing."

"Physically Joshua could out-train everyone," added Fury, 30. "He would break every heart monitor, has probably worn out every treadmill in the gym, smashes the bag, it's all very unimportant.

"Boxing isn't rocket science and today people are trying to make it a scientist thing. If you can fight you can fight if you can't you can forget about it. You can eat every protein bar in the world, when you get banged on the chin and panic, it don't really help you much.

"People who don't understand boxing look at a fight man and think he can't fight. The best feeling I got from it was the two best conditioned fighters in the last 20 years have been Klitschko and Joshua and they both got done by two fat men."

'Wilder not man enough anymore'
Undefeated Fury is a 1-25 favourite against Schwarz in his first fight since his epic draw with Wilder in December, where many ringside observers felt he should have been given a points victory despite being floored twice.

Both his and Wilder's team have loosely agreed a rematch in 2020, though a venue has not been agreed and financial terms have not been negotiated.

Fury, who lost around 10st in the 12 months leading up to the contest, says his relationship with Wilder is now strained which he puts down to the American knowing he should have lost their Los Angeles contest.

"If I was a match fit fighter and some fat man comes off drugs and alcohol and done that to me I'd never look at the sport again," said Fury.

"Does Deontay Wilder have anything to bother me? Nothing at all.

"I've been hurt 1,000 times but Wilder didn't hurt me once. He hit me in the back of the head, scrambled my senses and the last knockdown was a touch of sleep but didn't hurt me. Those same punches that caught me then are not going to touch me when I'm match fit.

"They thought I'd be half the man. I had to con them to think I was only there for a pay day. I couldn't be at my best but still beat him at nowhere near my best. He isn't man enough to face me anymore or speak to me. He used to text me back and forth. I've text him five times and he hasn't replied once."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/48605946

[samwbr]

Boring. Just fight them and see what happens.

[ILikeBeer]

Boring. Just fight them and see what happens.

[dr_devious]

Boring. Just fight them and see what happens.

He's run rings round Wilder once and can do it again.

As for Joshua he's got virtually no chance against Fury

[samwbr]

He's run rings round Wilder once and can do it again.

As for Joshua he's got virtually no chance against Fury

I just want to see what happens in the actual ring. Bored of all the chat.

[rd350lc]

Boring. Just fight them and see what happens.

Nah , he'd rather fight a 2nd tier no-hoper and tell us how good he is .

[oogiebe]

Nah , he'd rather fight a 2nd tier no-hoper and tell us how good he is .

Sure seems that way to me. Fury talks too much and fights too little. Maybe he'll wave his arms around and jab the air for 12 rounds.

[dr_devious]

He fought Wilder last time out and Vlad in his last fight before the lay off. The Schwarz fight is nonsense, but his record overall isn't one of somebody who ducks the best.

[rd350lc]

Sure seems that way to me. Fury talks too much and fights too little. Maybe he'll wave his arms around and jab the air for 12 rounds.

That's it , and proclaim he's the greatest ever .

[oogiebe]

He fought Wilder last time out and Vlad in his last fight before the lay off. The Schwarz fight is nonsense, but his record overall isn't one of somebody who ducks the best.

His resume has two good opponents (you mentioned) and less than stellar the rest.

[ironbeard]

He's run rings round Wilder once and can do it again.

As for Joshua he's got virtually no chance against Fury

You mean that ring his head bounced off of twice? He will have to run faster next time.

[oogiebe]

He's run rings round Wilder once and can do it again.

As for Joshua he's got virtually no chance against Fury

How the mighty have fallen. Used to be AJ was the only guy with a good chance of beating Fury!

[ironbeard]

Tyson Fury believes former world champion Anthony Joshua is "finished" after his shock defeat by Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua, 29, gave up his IBF, WBA and WBO titles in a seventh-round stoppage loss to Ruiz in New York on 1 June.

In a wide-ranging interview with BBC Sport before his Las Vegas bout with Tom Schwarz on Saturday, Fury said Joshua did not want to be in the ring.

"When a man doesn't want to be there once, he will always do it and it's hard to come back from," said Fury.

"He did it that night and I don't think he will come back from it. Finished. Ask any top trainer who has been around the sport a lifetime. When he got to the ring I saw he didn't want to be there.

"Everybody thought that man could beat me. In what world could he ever beat me? What were people seeing? I don't know what people were looking at as I don't know in what world he could have beaten me."

Joshua's first career defeat halted talk of any immediate fight with Fury or WBC champion Deontay Wilder as the 2012 Olympic champion is now intent on fulfilling a rematch with Ruiz.

Fury, who battled mental health and drug issues before returning to the sport after a 31-month spell of inactivity in June of 2018, believes Joshua will lose the repeat fixture.

In referencing Ruiz's much publicised fleshy physique and his own win over Wladimir Klitschko in 2015, Fury told 5 Live Boxing's Mike Costello and Steve Bunce that such results prove "body types mean nothing in boxing."

"Physically Joshua could out-train everyone," added Fury, 30. "He would break every heart monitor, has probably worn out every treadmill in the gym, smashes the bag, it's all very unimportant.

"Boxing isn't rocket science and today people are trying to make it a scientist thing. If you can fight you can fight if you can't you can forget about it. You can eat every protein bar in the world, when you get banged on the chin and panic, it don't really help you much.

"People who don't understand boxing look at a fight man and think he can't fight. The best feeling I got from it was the two best conditioned fighters in the last 20 years have been Klitschko and Joshua and they both got done by two fat men."

'Wilder not man enough anymore'
Undefeated Fury is a 1-25 favourite against Schwarz in his first fight since his epic draw with Wilder in December, where many ringside observers felt he should have been given a points victory despite being floored twice.

Both his and Wilder's team have loosely agreed a rematch in 2020, though a venue has not been agreed and financial terms have not been negotiated.

Fury, who lost around 10st in the 12 months leading up to the contest, says his relationship with Wilder is now strained which he puts down to the American knowing he should have lost their Los Angeles contest.

"If I was a match fit fighter and some fat man comes off drugs and alcohol and done that to me I'd never look at the sport again," said Fury.

"Does Deontay Wilder have anything to bother me? Nothing at all.

"I've been hurt 1,000 times but Wilder didn't hurt me once. He hit me in the back of the head, scrambled my senses and the last knockdown was a touch of sleep but didn't hurt me. Those same punches that caught me then are not going to touch me when I'm match fit.

"They thought I'd be half the man. I had to con them to think I was only there for a pay day. I couldn't be at my best but still beat him at nowhere near my best. He isn't man enough to face me anymore or speak to me. He used to text me back and forth. I've text him five times and he hasn't replied once."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/48605946

With the constant stream of sh!t flowing from his mouth, Fury is obviously in need of a serious enema.

[dr_devious]

You mean that ring his head bounced off of twice? He will have to run faster next time.

Do you really think Wilder deserved a draw even with the two knockdowns? Fury won at least 9 rounds altogether

[danconnollyeire]

He's run rings round Wilder once and can do it again.

As for Joshua he's got virtually no chance against Fury

I mean to say no chance shows little to no boxing knowledge. I think fury beats him but AJ can bang, in fact he can KO anyone if he lands and has proved he can get to his man time and time and and fury can be floored. One defeat doesn’t make him audley harrison

[dr_devious]

His resume has two good opponents (you mentioned) and less than stellar the rest.

Other than Fury, Vlad and Wilder have been the two best heavyweight fighters over the last ten years and he's fought and beat them both, notwithstanding the bizarre decision in the Wilder fight

[oogiebe]

I mean to say no chance shows little to no boxing knowledge. I think fury beats him but AJ can bang, in fact he can KO anyone if he lands and has proved he can get to his man time and time and and fury can be floored. One defeat doesn’t make him audley harrison

From what I've been seeing on the boards, Most of the AJ "fans" are writing him off and joining either the Fury or Whyte bandwagons. It's ridiculous. Watch the fair weather fans come back after AJ beats Ruiz in the rematch. And I'm not even a particularly big AJ fan.

[dr_devious]

I mean to say no chance shows little to no boxing knowledge. I think fury beats him but AJ can bang, in fact he can KO anyone if he lands and has proved he can get to his man time and time and and fury can be floored. One defeat doesn’t make him audley harrison

You're right, virtually no chance is a bit of an overstatement but Fury would more than likely box rings round AJ.

[oogiebe]

Other than Fury, Vlad and Wilder have been the two best heavyweight fighters over the last ten years and he's fought and beat them both, notwithstanding the bizarre decision in the Wilder fight

It was a draw, get over it. You can't revise the decision. And the Wlad fight was perhaps the most boring fight I've ever seen. Fury won a close decision over a past it Klitchko by landing maybe 90 punches. Next you'll be wheeling out Chisora as a world beater. Let's see what happens the next time Fury fights a top 25 fighter, if we ever get to see it.

[oogiebe]

You're right, virtually no chance is a bit of an overstatement but Fury would more than likely box rings round AJ.

Ok, I see now. It's nice to have big fans! the guy loses one fight and now he's gonna have fury box rings around him.

[ironbeard]

Do you really think Wilder deserved a draw even with the two knockdowns? Fury won at least 9 rounds altogether

By raising his hands in the air after every round?

I had Wilder winning real-time, but due to the fact that all but three rounds could have gone either way, I was fine with the draw. A whole lot of humanity had Fury winning if Wilder failed to stop him, no matter what, prior to the fight.

[dr_devious]

Ok, I see now. It's nice to have big fans! the guy loses one fight and now he's gonna have fury box rings around him.

Correct

[oogiebe]

By raising his hands in the air after every round?

I had Wilder winning real-time, but due to the fact that all but three rounds could have gone either way, I was fine with the draw. A whole lot of humanity had Fury winning if Wilder failed to stop him, no matter what, prior to the fight.

Don't waste your time. It's ok to be a big fan. He was probably a big AJ fan until he lost. He had to pick between Whyte and Fury and Fury has that big shiny "0" so he picked him.

[oogiebe]

Correct

At least you're honest.

[dr_devious]

By raising his hands in the air after every round?

I had Wilder winning real-time, but due to the fact that all but three rounds could have gone either way, I was fine with the draw. A whole lot of humanity had Fury winning if Wilder failed to stop him, no matter what, prior to the fight.

No, by repeatedly punching Wilder in the mush