Which HW boxer had the most similar style to Andy Ruiz ?

[ironbeard]

I'd say Povetkin. They are of similar height and both are front-foot fighters who apply intelligent pressure. Ruiz is more of a counterpuncher but both use their boxing skill to remain in the pocket without getting banged up. Povetkin relies more on technique whereas Ruiz relies more on his hand-speed (not that Povetkin is slow of hand nor that Ruiz is short of technique.)

Both gave Joshua big problems but Povetkin is ageing and slipping whereas Ruiz is in his peak years.

Good points. If Povetkin had TFKoB’s power and chin, he would have stopped AJ inside 7.

Povetkin was having more success than TFKoB early. He just could not hurt AJ, tired, and could not take AJ’s firepower.

[oogiebe]

Good points. If Povetkin had TFKoB’s power and chin, he would have stopped AJ inside 7.

Povetkin was having more success than TFKoB early. He just could not hurt AJ, tired, and could not take AJ’s firepower.

You're lovin' Andy!!!

[ironbeard]

You're lovin' Andy!!!

What’s not to love? TFKoB is the real life Rocky of our lifetimes. Everybody can throw up any excuse for what happened. What actually happened is a short fat Mexican-American refused to be denied, refused to stay down, refused to let it go to the cards.

This sh!t is storybook. Few (possibly 0) men on Earth could have taken the shots that TFKoB got up from and walked through in round 3 to turn it all around. On top of that, he seems to be an authentically decent dude.

ALL HAIL The Fat King of Boxing!!

[oogiebe]

What’s not to love? TFKoB is the real life Rocky of our lifetimes. Everybody can throw up any excuse for what happened. What actually happened is a short fat Mexican-American refused to be denied, refused to stay down, refused to let it go to the cards.

This sh!t is storybook. Few (possibly 0) men on Earth could have taken the shots that TFKoB got up from and walked through in round 3 to turn it all around. On top of that, he seems to be an authentically decent dude.

ALL HAIL The Fat King of Boxing!!

He is the most likable fighter I've seen, maybe ever. His disposition is so serene and steady. And he can flat out fight. The 'pudgy' nature of his physique makes him downright loveable. His star is on the rise and his popularity has probably exceeded every HW in the US.

[ValMar]

He is the most likable fighter I've seen, maybe ever. His disposition is so serene and steady. And he can flat out fight. The 'pudgy' nature of his physique makes him downright loveable. His star is on the rise and his popularity has probably exceeded every HW in the US.

I have a strong impression that you were half-serious, Oogiebe.

[Ilya Muromets]

He was brought in because he most closely resembles Jarrell Miller's style.

I'll go with that too.

[candyslim]

Good points. If Povetkin had TFKoB’s power and chin, he would have stopped AJ inside 7.

Povetkin was having more success than TFKoB early. He just could not hurt AJ, tired, and could not take AJ’s firepower.

I don't think prime Povetkin lacks power or durability. He's just old now.

Joshua is my man, but Andy did a hellova number on him. Can Joshua do better next time? I honestly don't know. Andy seems to have all the tools required to deactivate Joshua.

It reminds me of a kid at school who was my chess nemesis. He wasn't all that good and consistently lost to the better players whom I would usually beat. I couldn't beat him though, his relentness aggression and tandem knights attack got me every time, and I never learned to cope. I suspect Andy Ruiz might be Joshua's equivalent to my Eric Skeels.

[cormack]

I think there will be a lot of boxers in the gym right now working on their technique and looking to emulate this type of performance against much taller opponents , getting inside and releasing fast combinations not so much looking for the one big hit .
The one that springs to mind is ortiz v wilder .

[cormack]

I'll go with that too.

lets be frank and say hearn was short of options ... bet wishes they had picked hunter

[conan_the_cribber]

Well getting back to the original question, I think the answer is James Toney. I don't think Ruiz is anywhere near as good as Toney, but they have similar styles.

[oogiebe]

Well getting back to the original question, I think the answer is James Toney. I don't think Ruiz is anywhere near as good as Toney, but they have similar styles.

the only guy I could come up with was Joe Messi. Toney was slick and fluid. Way more so than Ruiz. That's not Ruiz's game. His game is fast combination counterpunching and solid fundamentals. He comes nowhere near Toney's movement.

[Ilya Muromets]

lets be frank and say hearn was short of options ... bet wishes they had picked hunter

Now that is something we can all be sure of!

[conan_the_cribber]

the only guy I could come up with was Joe Messi. Toney was slick and fluid. Way more so than Ruiz. That's not Ruiz's game. His game is fast combination counterpunching and solid fundamentals. He comes nowhere near Toney's movement.

lol. I just realized I restricted myself to "successful heavyweight fighters". I could've picked any number of durable fat guys with some skills. Chauncy Welliver for example.

[oogiebe]

lol. I just realized I restricted myself to "successful heavyweight fighters". I could've picked any number of durable fat guys with some skills. Chauncy Welliver for example.

Messi was a good fighter who got hurt in a fight which derailed his career. He wasn't fat, so I'm not sure why you posted this.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/16554

[conan_the_cribber]

Messi was a good fighter who got hurt in a fight which derailed his career. He wasn't fat, so I'm not sure why you posted this.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/16554

It had nothing to do with your Mesi quote. I just quoted to answer you with another name. Mesi was fine.

[oogiebe]

It had nothing to do with your Mesi quote. I just quoted to answer you with another name. Mesi was fine.

Ok, I get it now. Misunderstood.

[ral]

Ruiz's style is more heterodox than Povetkins, I mean about some strange angles and pretty unpredictible rhytm, escpecially the change of inside/outside game.

Would his "modus operandi" be too much for the skillful fighters (let us say Fury or Usyk) ? I don't think so.

I agree completely. That’s what I get with Ruiz, he can hit you moving at just about any angle, and that’s where his fast hands come into play because, from that he might throw a set up shot and then come back with a series of combinations..

[ValMar]

I agree completely. That’s what I get with Ruiz, he can hit you moving at just about any angle, and that’s where his fast hands come into play because, from that he might throw a set up shot and then come back with a series of combinations..

[fanman]

is he like jerry quarry a bit. slow feet. good counter puncher. good hand speed and power for his size.

[Tony1244]

Before the AJ fight I saw him as a boxer who throws a lot of combinations.

In the AJ fight, he said he watched and mimicked Mike Tyson and it sure did work.,

[Edub]

Butterbean?

[ironbeard]

is he like jerry quarry a bit. slow feet. good counter puncher. good hand speed and power for his size.

Probably the best shout yet. Quarry was very skilled, quick and tough but he did not have TFKoB’s chin. He did dig to the body somewhat like KoBcat does. Quarry beat some classic names too, like Shavers and Lyle.

The best I can come up with at the moment is a cross between Jerry Quarry and Oscar Bonavena. Bonavena was raw as hell but he had an iron beard. He was only stopped once, by Ali in the 15th, which pissed me off big time. I felt Bonavena had earned the right to finish that fight.

A cross between Quarry and Bonavena quite likely would have won the championship along the way at some point.

[ral]

is he like jerry quarry a bit. slow feet. good counter puncher. good hand speed and power for his size.

I think Ruiz is as good a boxer as Quarry and I think his chin is better.. I also think his hands are faster, he also may not dance around but when you watch his foot movement combined with his hands his feet are fast, just not a dancer!.
Ruiz had over 100 fights as an amateur as Quarry did, so that piece is similar but I feel Ruiz is much faster and doesn't tire like Quarry.. He reminds me of Jimmy Young only with power, Andy is very crafty and punches from just about any angle..
Ruiz does have some similar traits as Jerry like; always stocking and moving in on his opponent and he loves and prospers on the inside too.
I remember seeing Ruiz on TV a few months before the Joshua fight, he was fighting Dimintrenko who actually fought straight up like Joshua, anyway at first I looked at Andy and thought this is gonna be real sad, because when I looked at Dimintrenko I just thought, no chance, well a few rounds in Andy took Dimintrenko a part, piece by piece and at the end
Big D didn't come out for the fifth.. From that point on I became a believer... Andy I think in the end will surprise a lot of us..!!!