Pacquiao-Thurman Betting Odds

[diddy]

Thurman looked so terrible against Lopez I gotta say I’m shocked he’s favored against Manny. He looked that bad. He looked like a shell of a fighter. He’s gonna need to shed more than “rust” to win this fight. He’s gonna need to be at least 75% of his previous form. He wasn’t even 40% against Josesito.

[fanman]

what if he is 100%, how does it go?

[SenorPipino]

Thurman is younger, stronger, bigger. Hits harder.

He didn't look terrible against Lopez. That's just become the popular mantra. Thurman had one terrible round. The 7th. He dominated the rest of the fight. Even scored a knockdown.

I'm surprised that Thurman remains only a -140 favorite. I'd make him about a 3-1 choice.

Even with some accumulated rust, Thurman is at least the third best welter on the planet.

He should roll over Pacquiao. 40 is 40. Pacquiao may seem spry against a small, aging Matthysse or a Broner who has become adverse to punching back.

But against Thurman it won't be that easy. If Horn had success pushing and battering Pacquiao, then Thurman can certainly impose his will.

I don't expect a boxing Thurman. He'll be more physical and attempt to wear down the old man. Pacquiao can only fight effectively in spurts these days anyways.

I hope those odds remain the same. Maybe Pacquiao will foolishly attract sentimental money and go in pick 'em.

A good night to clean up at the sports books.

[diddy]

Thurman dominated the rest of the Lopez fight? I didn’t see that at all. He won, yes. But that fight was pretty damn competitive throughout. Pacquiao would’ve boxed circles around Lopez that night. You’re assuming Thurman will be closer to 100% next fight. My point was - how do we know? All I can go off is the last performance I saw.

[Onetimeonly]

Manny will win clearly. Lol that Thurman hits harder. Just because he has a punchers nickname doesn't make him a huge swatter. It will be best for Keith to lose here because if he ever summoned the courage to fight Spence he would get the shitkicking 9f a lifetime.

[SenorPipino]

Manny will win clearly. Lol that Thurman hits harder. Just because he has a punchers nickname doesn't make him a huge swatter. It will be best for Keith to lose here because if he ever summoned the courage to fight Spence he would get the shitkicking 9f a lifetime.

Does "One Time" refer to Thurman's power? I never knew that. I just assumed it was a cutesy nickname that had no real meaning.

If Thurman doesn't hit harder than Manny, he should call it a day.

One KO in nearly 10 years doesn't make Pacquiao much of a puncher.

ODLH said that Pacquiao has no real power at welterweight, and he should know from experience.

I can't imagine Pacquiao hanging with any top welter at age 40. Jeff Horn was supposed to be careful matchmaking and that turned into disaster.

Spence might kick Thurman's ass. But Pacquiao is no Spence.

[boxing_rocks]

I am cheering for Manny. If Mother Time doesn't interfere, he should beat Thurman who hasn't been One Time since being hurt by Soto Karass.

[Onetimeonly]

Does "One Time" refer to Thurman's power? I never knew that. I just assumed it was a cutesy nickname that had no real meaning.

If Thurman doesn't hit harder than Manny, he should call it a day.

One KO in nearly 10 years doesn't make Pacquiao much of a puncher.

ODLH said that Pacquiao has no real power at welterweight, and he should know from experience.

I can't imagine Pacquiao hanging with any top welter at age 40. Jeff Horn was supposed to be careful matchmaking and that turned into disaster.

Spence might kick Thurman's ass. But Pacquiao is no Spence.

Thurman wouldn't stop any of the guys that went the distance with PAC. He wouldn't stop matthysse either.

[world ranked]

Thurman wouldn't stop any of the guys that went the distance with PAC. He wouldn't stop matthysse either.

Good Joke here. Lesser welterweights would have stopped Matthysse that night.

[Onetimeonly]

Good Joke here. Lesser welterweights would have stopped Matthysse that night.

Glad you enjoyed it, PAC would stop Lopez. Not sure what all that has to do with anything to begin with.

[gilgamesh]

Glad you enjoyed it, PAC would stop Lopez. Not sure what all that has to do with anything to begin with.

I'm not sure he would stop Lopez, but I'm with you on your overall point that Thurman is no bigger a puncher at the weight than Pac is.

It really says a lot about Thurman, and the kind of Champion he's seen as that he's still seen as either 50/50 or a slight underdog against a 40 year old Pacquiao. I guess it also speaks to Pac's greatness, and how revered he is, but when a guy is 40, and fighting in his like 10 or 12th weight class, if you call yourself a Champion of any description you should be able to beat that guy.

[world ranked]

I'm not sure he would stop Lopez, but I'm with you on your overall point that Thurman is no bigger a puncher at the weight than Pac is.

It really says a lot about Thurman, and the kind of Champion he's seen as that he's still seen as either 50/50 or a slight underdog against a 40 year old Pacquiao. I guess it also speaks to Pac's greatness, and how revered he is, but when a guy is 40, and fighting in his like 10 or 12th weight class, if you call yourself a Champion of any description you should be able to beat that guy.

Hopkins, Pacquaio are ATG so compare them to regular 40 yr old boxers isn't fair take. So Michael Moorer wasn't a champion because he lost to George Foreman or all the guys was not champions beacause they couldnt beat Hopkins or Pacquiao is a little harsh.

[gilgamesh]

Hopkins, Pacquaio are ATG so compare them to regular 40 yr old boxers isn't fair take. So Michael Moorer wasn't a champion because he lost to George Foreman or all the guys was not champions beacause they couldnt beat Hopkins or Pacquiao is a little harsh.

Hopkins was a Middleweight fighting at Light Heavyweight at his heaviest. If Hopkins had moved up and beat up Heavyweight Champions, said Heavyweight Champions would've had their balls busted to pieces for sucking so badly as to lose to such a smaller opponent.

Pacquiao beating Thurman at 40 would be the equivalent of Hopkins beating Povetkin or something in the last decade.

For the record I don't think Thurman will lose, but it'll be close.

Michael Moorer was at least kicking Foreman's ass every step of the way before getting caught and stopped. If he'd been losing on the scorecards to Foreman at the time he lost it would've been even more damaging to his reputation, but even as is Michael Moorer isn't seen as one of the 50 all time great Heavyweights. He's a good fighter, not a great one. At least in the eyes of fans, and yes losing to Foreman is probably the reason why he's seen that way. Or at least it didn't help.

If Thurman can't win here, decent champion, kinda good fighter is the best he's ever gonna get in terms of praise.

[caldo2025]

Thurman is younger, stronger, bigger. Hits harder.

He didn't look terrible against Lopez. That's just become the popular mantra. Thurman had one terrible round. The 7th. He dominated the rest of the fight. Even scored a knockdown.

I'm surprised that Thurman remains only a -140 favorite. I'd make him about a 3-1 choice.

Even with some accumulated rust, Thurman is at least the third best welter on the planet.

He should roll over Pacquiao. 40 is 40. Pacquiao may seem spry against a small, aging Matthysse or a Broner who has become adverse to punching back.

But against Thurman it won't be that easy. If Horn had success pushing and battering Pacquiao, then Thurman can certainly impose his will.

I don't expect a boxing Thurman. He'll be more physical and attempt to wear down the old man. Pacquiao can only fight effectively in spurts these days anyways.

I hope those odds remain the same. Maybe Pacquiao will foolishly attract sentimental money and go in pick 'em.

A good night to clean up at the sports books.

Your review of Thurman/Lopez is quite off. I personally don’t put a lot of stock into criticizing a boxer that had been out of the ring for that long though either. The “W” is all that matters in those comeback fights but Lopez did give him a scare where I felt Thurman was lucky to get to that final bell. Lopez bullied him about the ring late in that fight walking him down. Lopez was way more of a live underdog than Thurman’s camp anticipated or wanted.

Thurman is going to perform way better in this fight but I still think that it’s going to be tight. Manny still has pop and will clearly have speed on his side and movement. Thurman better go caveman instead of dancing and boxing like he tries to do at times. Because Manny is by far a better technician.

[world ranked]

Hopkins was a Middleweight fighting at Light Heavyweight at his heaviest. If Hopkins had moved up and beat up Heavyweight Champions, said Heavyweight Champions would've had their balls busted to pieces for sucking so badly as to lose to such a smaller opponent.

Pacquiao beating Thurman at 40 would be the equivalent of Hopkins beating Povetkin or something in the last decade.

For the record I don't think Thurman will lose, but it'll be close.

Michael Moorer was at least kicking Foreman's ass every step of the way before getting caught and stopped. If he'd been losing on the scorecards to Foreman at the time he lost it would've been even more damaging to his reputation, but even as is Michael Moorer isn't seen as one of the 50 all time great Heavyweights. He's a good fighter, not a great one. At least in the eyes of fans, and yes losing to Foreman is probably the reason why he's seen that way. Or at least it didn't help.

If Thurman can't win here, decent champion, kinda good fighter is the best he's ever gonna get in terms of praise.

Beating Pacquaio won't make him great win or lose he won't and probably shouldn't get full credit. This fight won't change anyone perspective that he's great just for beating Pacquaio. Spence win would probably be important for in that case.

[gilgamesh]

Beating Pacquaio won't make him great win or lose he won't and probably shouldn't get full credit. This fight won't change anyone perspective that he's great just for beating Pacquaio. Spence win would probably be important for in that case.

I didn't say beating Pacquiao would make him great, but losing to Pacquiao would mean he'll never, ever, ever be seen as great.

I honestly wouldn't be shocked if he retired upon beating Pac. He won't fight Spence. Wants no part of that.

This is the Mountaintop fight for Thurman, and I'm sure his training and preparation reflects that.

[Susej_SOG]

I'm not sure he would stop Lopez, but I'm with you on your overall point that Thurman is no bigger a puncher at the weight than Pac is.

It really says a lot about Thurman, and the kind of Champion he's seen as that he's still seen as either 50/50 or a slight underdog against a 40 year old Pacquiao. I guess it also speaks to Pac's greatness, and how revered he is, but when a guy is 40, and fighting in his like 10 or 12th weight class, if you call yourself a Champion of any description you should be able to beat that guy.

Thurman weights more of 161 pounds in the ring In the fight night.

Pacquiao? Just 149-151.

Pacquiao has good pop, he is not a feather hands in 147 but no way he hits harder than Thurman.

Pacquiao could not K.O Chris Algieri...