Best road warrior resume of all time?

[squiggy]

No kidding there are a lot of hype threads. That happens when a fighter's on a roll. Obviously I was referring to his claim that we're all sucking Usyk off because he's Ukranian.

Ukranian, Slavic, European, White, I dont know I dont care. Enjoy.

I get it! You were just bringing up an unrelated thing that no one else was talking about because you don't care about that thing you brought up. People totally do that.

[Duran1970]

I believe Eusebio Pedroza has the record for most defenses in opponents yard

Best example so far. Went to Venezuela 2x, Japan 2x, Puerto Rico, USA 2x, Puerto Rico, Papua New Guinea, and South Korea to fight in their backyards for a total of 9 times all in title fights.

Also lost title shot vs Zamora in Mexico and lost strap to McGuigan in the UK

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ashley Theophane has fought in 10 countries. But he resume isn't good.

[Thomastearns]

The kind of road warrior we don't often see, no doubt because of the obvious economic realities, is the US world champion who regularly fights/tours overseas.

Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali are the obvious ones who wanted recognition as true champions of the world.

Far too many others went the Elvis Presley route and stayed safely at home.

[JMac]

DeMarcus "Chop Chop" Corley, not a great resume but once he lost to Judah and FMJ, he hit the road and boxed all over the world in some interesting places. He's 51-33-1 and still boxing after his debut in '96.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/19266

[jamamb]

lol at lacky saying usyks not even in the discussion

pretty weird idea of road warriorism when being a massive a side and the cheered on fighter with all stocked in your favor, in a global fight country that is your pro base) is valued more as road warriorism then actually going into hostile territory where ppl want you to lose (how did pacs horn fight go for example lol)

if the disadvantage of fighting on the road, in enemy territory has no relevance to a match (like pac or canelo being huge a sides and supported fighters in the us), there is about dick all more impressive about winning abroad then in your home country

a true road fight for a guy like manny wouldve been horn, and what happened there

[Loki]

Not so sure about Klitschko brothers , with a few exceptions they were always the home fighter , even if they weren’t fighting at home (Kiev) literally speaking. Probably Povetkin and Herbie Hide are the only ones I would consider as fights away from home in a promotional and crowd favourite sense .

Not sure about that. Joshua fight, Vitali v Lennox.....

[Loki]

Glen ‘Road Warrior’ Johnson. He literally fought all over the globe.

[gilgamesh]

There have been a good deal of smaller fighters who have to fight outside their home country to get any kinda of exposure.

I remember Ring Magazine giving a shout out to Lorenzo Parra about this sorta thing back in the day. All of his early fights were in his home country of Venezuela, but once he ever fought for a World Title, he almost always defended it abroad, and has fought in his opponent's backyard on multiple occasions since losing his title as well.

Can't win a fight to save his life these days it would appear, but nevertheless he's an example of a Road Warrior.

[littlepug]

Manuel Medina, Johnny Nelson, Azumah Nelson and Mike McCallum all did a fair bit abroad, Baby Jake as well

[Nightmare Roy]

Manuel Media’s record on the road was good.

[Susej_SOG]

Usyk has wins over Gassiev, Breidis, Huck, Hunter, and Glowoski in their home countries. Does anyone know of other boxers with similar or better road warrior records?

All of them are B class champions.

Cruiserweight it's probably the worst división in history

[jamamb]

irf , but but but doe

[gilgamesh]

All of them are B class champions.

Cruiserweight it's probably the worst división in history

It has less ATG's than other weight classes, but that has a lot to do with the fact that it's a pretty damn young division. Cruiserweight only has a history of a little over 30 years while other weight classes go back several decades or even a century or more prior to that.

Cruiserweight is one of the youngest divisions in Boxing, and has always been seen as a kinda unneeded bastard division at that I'm sure.

[Susej_SOG]

It has less ATG's than other weight classes, but that has a lot to do with the fact that it's a pretty damn young division. Cruiserweight only has a history of a little over 30 years while other weight classes go back several decades or even a century or more prior to that.

Cruiserweight is one of the youngest divisions in Boxing, and has always been seen as a kinda unneeded bastard division at that I'm sure.

Yeah, man, but, for example, best win of Usyk is Gassiev, and he is not in a top-30 of a P4P list.

Thats the truth.

Hard is fight vs great fighters with the support of the judges and crown.

[gilgamesh]

Yeah, man, but, for example, best win of Usyk is Gassiev, and he is not in a top-30 of a P4P list.

Thats the truth.

Hard is fight vs great fighters with the support of the judges and crown.

You can only beat who's around. Gassiev and Breidis are certainly not weak opponents by any stretch.

[Susej_SOG]

The thread is wrong

It does not matter the place

What really matters it's if you are the A Side or Not.


Gallo Estrada never was the A side and he fought vs Román González, Brian Viloria (in China), Milán Melindo (in China), Cuadras and Sor Rungvisai (Sor was the fighter of DAZN, not Estrada).

Thats a hard road.

[Susej_SOG]

You can only beat who's around. Gassiev and Breidis are certainly not weak opponents by any stretch.

Yeah, but you can't be the best when your rivals are not great.

Gassiev and Breidis are just good fighters, B class champions, nothing more.

They are not better than Dogboe, for example, or Danny Román.

Cruiserweight is one of the worst división in history.

Gassiev and Breidis are not in a top-25 P4P list

[Susej_SOG]

Orlando Saludo always was the B SIDE and he fought with a lot of great fighters in their prime

[jamamb]

more like if you are the lower side to a higher side

sometmes theres no a side either way. neutral grounds and not really a promotional bias, a guy like milan melindo is not chinsese, had no fights in china, and is not some chinese promotioanl draw

[gilgamesh]

Yeah, but you can't be the best when your rivals are not great.

Gassiev and Breidis are just good fighters, B class champions, nothing more.

They are not better than Dogboe, for example, or Danny Román.

Cruiserweight is one of the worst división in history.

Gassiev and Breidis are not in a top-25 P4P list

Cleaning out a weight class of all of it's notable contenders, and other titleholders makes you a pretty goddamn great fighter. Regardless of what your take on the Cruiserweight division may be.

And that being said, I'm not sure that the Cruiserweight division has ever been stronger than it was during Usyk's reign during it's history.

There are more good Cruiserweights active right now than there have ever been that I can recall, and Usyk beat virtually all of them.

[jamamb]

but but but doe, all hail elwin

[Susej_SOG]

but but but doe, all hail elwin

Acosta is better than all the fighters that Usyk faced, and probably in the same level of Gassiev and Breidis, and younger fighter.

more like if you are the lower side to a higher side

sometmes theres no a side either way. neutral grounds and not really a promotional bias, a guy like milan melindo is not chinsese, had no fights in china, and is not some chinese promotioanl draw

I see you don't know about this.

Melindo was a fighter of TOP RANK, and he was rated high talking about prospects of Filipinas.

Bob Arum and Top Rank were trying to make Macao, China a kind of Las Vegas but in Assia

Thats the reason why he made fights in China with Viloria in the Main event.

Estrada easily defeated Viloria and one judge gave the fight to Viloria, that was fu.cking crazy.

Estrada was the massive underdog in that fight and he demolished Brian in a fantastic performance.

Next to that fight, Arum made that fight against his boy Melindo and Juan schooled him

That was the story....

[Susej_SOG]

Cleaning out a weight class of all of it's notable contenders, and other titleholders makes you a pretty goddamn great fighter. Regardless of what your take on the Cruiserweight division may be.

And that being said, I'm not sure that the Cruiserweight division has ever been stronger than it was during Usyk's reign during it's history.

There are more good Cruiserweights active right now than there have ever been that I can recall, and Usyk beat virtually all of them.

No, you are great when you beat great rivals, period, cleaning out a division without a élite rival in the division is not that hard.

It's hardest beat a élite fighter, like Rigo did vs Donaire.

That is better, and is not the fault of Usyk but that division is straight garbage.

Gassiev or Breidis are not in the top-25 of the world.

It's easy look good vs lesser opponents.

[jamamb]

ya, acosta proved that no doubt hes better then all usyks opponents, by winning 3 rounds and getting dropped in his only previous fight vs a good opponent


melindo was estrada mandatory challenger, thats why he got the shot. he had no fan base in china, was not being pushed by top rank, and was on the undercard of the previous card estrada was at the top of. he was no a side but but but doe.

was melindo ever even signed with top rank btw?