Canelo Now WBC "Franchise" Champion, Charlo Now Full Champ!

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Adding to the crazy confusion of title belts, the World Boxing Council has now created a new world title position - with Saul “Canelo” Alvarez being tabbed as the WBC "franchise champion."

By doing this, the WBC removes Canelo from his position as middleweight champion - and in doing so they have made the interim-champion Jermall Charlo the full middleweight champion.

Charlo is back on Saturday night in Texas, when he defends his belt against Brandon Adams.

The WBC explained their reasoning for the move, which further confuses everyone who follows the sport.

Canelo also holds the IBF and WBA versions of the middleweight title.

"During its recent mid-year meeting in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, the WBC Board of Governors approved rule 3.26 of the WBC Rules and Regulations, which creates the designation of WBC Franchise Champion. The Franchise Champion is a special designation and status which the WBC may bestow to a current WBC world champion, who is also an elite boxer, and who has achieved and maintains the highest of statures in the sport," the sanctioning body stated.

"Under Rule 3.26, in its discretion, the WBC may, upon a 2/3rd vote of the Board of Governors, designate in each weight category one WBC Franchise Champion. A Franchise Champion shall enjoy special status with respect to his or her mandatory obligations, holding multiple titles and competing for titles of other organizations, as the WBC Board of Governors rules on a case-by-case basis.

"The WBC is bestowing that honor upon champion Alvarez due to his many accomplishments which have positioned him as major worldwide attraction in boxing, and in light of his unquestionable boxing career linked to our organization. Canelo Alvarez has represented the WBC for 11 years with outstanding results in his professional career.”

And apparently the WBC outlined certain conditions for their franchise champion.

1. The Franchise Champion will be designated as WBC Emeritus Champion once he retires from boxing.

2. The Franchise Champion will proudly represent the WBC in every single fight as a reigning WBC champion, regardless of any specific conditions or titles being associated with all future fights. WBC rules and regulations will govern under the traditional conditions of boxing in the Franchise champion fights. WBC will approve through the franchise champion promoter every opponent scheduled to fight.

3. Franchise Champion agrees to participate in a minimum of two social responsibility events every year, organized and in conjunction with the WBC.

4. The WBC may recognize a WBC champion in the division or divisions where the Franchise champion currently competes.

5. The WBC may award a Diamond Championship belt in those fights in which the Franchise Champion engages. If the Franchise Champion loses, the winner will receive the Diamond belt and may be considered as mandatory contender of the division.
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Right... av read it all now.

Who’s gonna shoot me?
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So can Canelo not unify the WBC belt? Like Pacquiao can’t unify the WBA belt?

I think Wilder is next in line to become this Franchise champion.
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For the Love of God. What's it gonna take for us as fans to just unanimously agree to stop giving a f*ck about these goddamn belts?

I mean just how stupid does this sh*t gotta get?

I'm seriously asking.
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What a great little earner for them.
And Canelo doesn't have to face any mandatory opponents, he can just do what ever he wants, pay the fees and be called a champion, another friggin champion. Everyone wins, except the sport of boxing
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So as the WBC Franchise champion can Canelo now establish an entire chain of WBC champions across his chosen territory? :maybe:
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Just when I thought it couldn't get worse.
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I can’t wait for the WBA to go one better than the WBC’s recent announcement by announcing the use of an allegedly “prestigious” new “Planet Earth” championship.

The sport of boxing has clearly already deteriorated to the level of vanity-related contests, such as bodybuilding and beauty pageants, because it won’t be long until the sports’ governing bodies introduce even more titles, such as: earth, galaxy, universe, olympia etc.

What "world" titles do we already have?

• Franchise
• Recess
• Emeritus
• Lineal
• RING
• Emerald
• Onyx
• Eternal
• Silver
• Interim
• Regular
• Diamond
• Global
• Unified
• Undisputed
• Super

I’ve possibly excluded a few! :brick:
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So I assume the champ will never have mandatory defenses.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 20:05 I can’t wait for the WBA to go one better than the WBC’s recent announcement by announcing the use of an allegedly “prestigious” new “Planet Earth” championship.

The sport of boxing has clearly already deteriorated to the level of vanity-related contests, such as bodybuilding and beauty pageants, because it won’t be long until the sports’ governing bodies introduce even more titles, such as: earth, galaxy, universe, olympia etc.

What "world" titles do we already have?

• Franchise
• Recess
• Emeritus
• Lineal
• RING
• Emerald
• Onyx
• Eternal
• Silver
• Interim
• Regular
• Diamond
• Global
• Unified
• Undisputed
• Super

I’ve possibly excluded a few! :brick:
I like lineal, Emeritus, undisputed, RING and at a push recess. The rest are just bullshit.
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Post by Susej_SOG »

This is easy, kids:

This means

Canelo vs Andrade

Charlo vs Golovkin

Winners will fight in may 2020.
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Dana White was saying if he gets involved in boxing he wants to create his own belts that would be for his company and disregard any rankings organizations.
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marvelous marv wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 23:46 Dana White was saying if he gets involved in boxing he wants to create his own belts that would be for his company and disregard any rankings organizations.
Sounds like a terrific idea. :brick:

I wonder why the fighters themselves don't create their own belts and simply proclaim themselves champions of their own personal organization.

It would be just as meaningful.
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It's pretty absurd that the WBC gave Alvarez a super belt that they called the diamond belt, and on top of that, gave him a serious of other commemorative super belts, and they still have to make him a "franchise champion." They couldn't have just left it at "diamond champ."

This is why it makes me angry when people act like the IBO is clearly inferior to the other four. The IBO doesn't pull this sh*t as often as the WBA, WBO, and WBC do. I haven't been keeping score, but my gut says that the other organizations each do this shit 10 times as much as the IBO.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 20:05
What "world" titles do we already have?

• Franchise
• Recess
• Emeritus
• Lineal
• RING
• Emerald
• Onyx
• Eternal
• Silver
• Interim
• Regular
• Diamond
• Global
• Unified
• Undisputed
• Super

I’ve possibly excluded a few! :brick:
You missed out the most recent WBA’s Goldbelt. But I think that replaced the Interim belt.
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Lackeos wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 01:00This is why it makes me angry when people act like the IBO is clearly inferior to the other four. The IBO doesn't pull this sh*t as often as the WBA, WBO, and WBC do. I haven't been keeping score, but my gut says that the other organizations each do this poo 10 times as much as the IBO.
I've only taken a superficial look at the IBO's current champion list, but it seems eerily familiar with the analysis I'd performed on the same organisation a couple of years prior, with the following posts submitted to this forum during January 2018:
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Jan 2018, 19:33 At the start of 2017, the IBO carried no credibility , due to the following reasons:
• 79% of the IBO’s champions earned their belt by competing for the vacant title.
• 50% of the IBO champions are not rated in ESPN or Ring’s top ten divisional rankings, with 72% of those titleholders being South African.
• In 43% of the IBO’s most recent vacant world title fights, at least one of the competitors were allowed to compete for the belt despite failing to win their previous outing.

The above stats don’t seem to have changed much.

For instance: here’s a list of some of their current champions that are completely anonymous to me:

Cruiserweight: Kevin Lerena (South Africa)
Lightweight: Emmanuel Tagoe (Ghana)
Super Featherweight: Shavkat Rakhimov (Russia)
Super Flyweight: Gideon Buthelezi (South Africa)
Minimumweight: Simphiwe Khonco (South Africa)

Chris Eubank Jr. is the only fighter amongst their roster of so-called “world champions” that actually captured their world title from an existing IBO champion, since the other eight titleholders merely competed for vacant titles! :o
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 03:45 You missed out the most recent WBA’s Goldbelt. But I think that replaced the Interim belt.
Yeah, you're right I'd forgotten about that. :TU:

That being said, Trevor Bryan is an interim champion and Joe Joyce is a gold champion, with both fighters competing in the heavyweight division. :brick:
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..make all these belts hereditary and they'll have my full support :lol:
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SenorPipino wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 23:55 Sounds like a terrific idea. :brick:

I wonder why the fighters themselves don't create their own belts and simply proclaim themselves champions of their own personal organization.

It would be just as meaningful.
Why wouldn't he? His model of mma has dusted boxing in popularity in the States. If he buys the pbc I hope he does just have one belt. Promotional ties prevent fights all the time but one of them ensuring their best are always facing each other is a step in the right direction.
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its true, now charlos pretty irrelevant to canelo
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It is 2 and half month until Alvarez September fight date. Wondering when he announces oponent. He is probably waiting on Andrade - Sulecki winner.
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Cent0089 wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:44 It is 2 and half month until Alvarez September fight date. Wondering when he announces oponent. He is probably waiting on Andrade - Sulecki winner.
Or we just don't know how far his negotiations with Kova or Smith progressed.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:47 Or we just don't know how far his negotiations with Kova or Smith progressed.
Don't even know if there has been any truly serious negotiations.

Promoters always throw out other names to gain leverage in talks with the fighter they actually intend to fight.
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SenorPipino wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 23:55 Sounds like a terrific idea. :brick:

I wonder why the fighters themselves don't create their own belts and simply proclaim themselves champions of their own personal organization.

It would be just as meaningful.
The P4P Goat is already doing it 😁

https://www.google.nl/search?q=charlie+ ... M6fB3TZyrM
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