Golovkin vs Charlo

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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 07:26 I originally sad the following, which doesn't imply the word "definite", but he definitely is a long-term resident of the US.
awww.

you said he was a 'long-time citizen'

not just a citizen, but a 'long-time' citizen.

this is NOT a FACT, eo

It is not a well-evidenced, widely-documented, indupitable, unarguable, well-sourced, well-referenced FACT

you profess to prefer those kinds of facts, and yet when you make claims as though they are fact, which are actually false, it seems you then try and minimise your mistake.

now, when OTHER people make claims they cannot document as factual, you won't shut up about it, you bang on and on about how important it is, to be factually-correct, as though you're some kind of paragon of verisimilitude.

none of this is a surprise to regular readers. we all know you're a hypocrite, who pulls supposed-but-not-actually-factual 'facts' out of his arse to try to buttress whatever autistic hobby-horse of an argument that you are currently trying to ride (or more accurately, whilst I'm on a horse metapaphor, more like 'flog to death')
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Counter-puncher wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 07:40 you profess to prefer those kinds of facts, and yet when you make claims as though they are fact, which are actually false, it seems you then try and minimise your mistake.

now, when OTHER people make claims they cannot document as factual, you won't shut up about it, you bang on and on about how important it is, to be factually-correct, as though you're some kind of paragon of verisimilitude.

none of this is a surprise to regular readers. we all know you're a hypocrite, who pulls supposed-but-not-actually-factual 'facts' out of his arse to try to buttress whatever autistic hobby-horse of an argument that you are currently trying to ride (or more accurately, whilst I'm on a horse metapaphor, more like 'flog to death')
You can’t disprove what I wrote! :TU:

What are you going to do now? Read through my posts and criticise those with spelling and grammar errors? :lol:

Also, you can’t provide any evidence to justify the derogatory nature of that rambling irrational rant of yours. It's just lies. :OhYes:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 06:17
would prefer this, ggg weve seen twice already, bigger guys like smith or vodka breath r way more interesting
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jamamb wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 10:30 would prefer this, ggg weve seen twice already, bigger guys like smith or vodka breath r way more interesting
Except Canelo could be badly hurt in those fights.
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kid dares to be great though, props to him
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jamamb wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 10:55 kid dares to be great though, props to him
DLH may have him repeat his own mistake of going up too high.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 10:52 Except Canelo could be badly hurt in those fights.
Canelo knows how to fight.

No one hurts him. He can take care himself in the ring. He's a fighter.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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SenorPipino wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 11:49 Canelo knows how to fight.

No one hurts him. He can take care himself in the ring. He's a fighter.
He's not invincible.
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@EO:

dude, you are not doing yourself a favor twisting the facts..
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SenorPipino wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 11:49 Canelo knows how to fight.

No one hurts him. He can take care himself in the ring. He's a fighter.
If he takes on Smith or Kovalev without rehydration clauses, he will prove he has the biggest balls in the sport. Remember, Ward fought Paul Smith, Barrera and Brand before taking on Kovalev.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:50 If he takes on Smith or Kovalev without rehydration clauses, he will prove he has the biggest balls in the sport. Remember, Ward fought Paul Smith, Barrera and Brand before taking on Kovalev.
Wouldn't be surprised if he fights Kovalev the way he fought the 1st GGG fight. Just survive, and let the judges make sure you don't lose.
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greg wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 03:56 ..let me add just one more "minor" detail: GGG is a road warrior, I believe most of his fights took place outside of his backyard. We all know what happens to boxers daring to leave their comfort zones, that's the reason why many so-called legends never left them...Having said that, I don't expect him to get any better considering his age...
And let's not forget that despite all of his considerable achievements GGG remains the perennial outsider as far the United States boxing establishment is concerned.

The whole corrupt farrago from Vegas to Mexico City is well and truly up Canelo's ----.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:50 If he takes on Smith or Kovalev without rehydration clauses, he will prove he has the biggest balls in the sport. Remember, Ward fought Paul Smith, Barrera and Brand before taking on Kovalev.
That's a gigantic if.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Susej_SOG wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 16:06 Kid, look

Golovkin ducked Andrade, thats a fact, not a opinión.

Right?

Andrade is better than any rival of Golovkin, except Jacobs and Canelo, right?


Andrade is 100 times better than Rolls, right?


GGG is a diva with a soft career, thats another fact, right?

40 fights and only two elite rivals?

Estrada faced Viloria, González, Rungvisai X2, Cuadras, Segura, etc. And fought in 3 different division.

Canelo fought vs Lara and he was a fighter.of another promoter... Stop with the excuses

And Andrade probably will be the next rival of Canelo and is the #4 in the weight


GGG will duck Charlo
oK Fergus/EO. :wave:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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greg wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:22 @EO:

dude, you are not doing yourself a favor twisting the facts..
User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!
It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "


:TU:
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apollo creed wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 14:17 User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!
It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "


:TU:
Yeah, what’s the point in quoting someone else’s words if they bear no relation to anything I’ve written or if they don’t undermine any of my previous claims.

There has to come a point in time where you actually challenge my exact words head-on, instead of citing someone else’s words.

I look forward to you issuing more insults rather than explaining your unreasonable actions. :lol:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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apollo creed wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 14:17 User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!
It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "


:TU:
Hard to say better than that !
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Susej_SOG wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 15:33 Charlo is an animal, he power is great.
:oo
Son, Are you talking about this Charlotte :

Old and half trained Korobov hit Charlo's face at will. :OhYes:

Your trolling is poor, son. :wave:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 15:25 Hard to say better than that !
Yup. It was/is a pretty damn well done description of EO. It should be attached everytime EO is posting his ' ocdc twists'. lol :OhYes:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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apollo creed wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 16:00 :oo
Son, Are you talking about this Charlotte :

Old and half trained Korobov hit Charlo's face at will. :OhYes:

Your trolling is poor, son. :wave:
I hate to be on the side of this troll, but that was for a change well motivated Korobov who fought Charlo. Charlo is a very good fighter but he was facing an extremely skillful motivated opponent who probably had his last chance to jump on the championship train.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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greg wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 12:22 @EO:

dude, you are not doing yourself a favor twisting the facts..
You can’t “twist” facts, all you can do is preset them as they are.

In this case, they accurately the fact that nearly every aspect of GGG’s life revolves around US soil, such as the place of residence for himself, his family, his business, his fanbase, his network, the source of his revenue stream, the venue for his bouts, his home etc. :OhYes:

Mock me all you want. Deliver as many insults as humanly possible. Heck, even the forum moderators will even endorse whatever derogatory words you use, but there’s nothing you can do to disprove the obvious facts of reality I’ve detailed.

America is GGG’s home for himself and his family. It’s not foreign soil. Pretending otherwise is fùckïng monumentally stupid! :OhYes:

Seriously! No moronic fùckêr can seriously pretend that GGG is a road warrior where the country for the venue of his bouts is actually his fückïng home!

Oleksandr Usyk is a road warrior. And GGG isn’t. Even the most ardent and honest admirer of GGG couldn’t disagree with my words.
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The guy fought in Germany, Norway, Ukraine, Panama, Monaco, UK, US. Nothing else needs to be said.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 16:12 I hate to be on the side of this troll, but that was for a change well motivated Korobov who fought Charlo. Charlo is a very good fighter but he was facing an extremely skillful motivated opponent who probably had his last chance to jump on the championship train.
It supposed to be like that and have that kind of mentality inside the ring. Korobov did good. :TU:
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 00:34 The guy fought in Germany, Norway, Ukraine, Panama, Monaco, UK, US. Nothing else needs to be said.
:TU: True road warrior.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Charlo has the skillset to win, always thought he'd trouble GGG.
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