Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him ?

Yes, I agree
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55%
Undecided
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10%
No, I do not agree
11
35%
 
Total votes: 31

ValMar
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Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by ValMar »

Whyte claims this fight would be pointless, he has already defeated Parker. What do you think ?
jamamb
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by jamamb »

eh not a big fan of quick rematches except in certain cases, like big upsets, controversial endings, etc

give them other fights and maybe revist later
boxing_rocks
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by boxing_rocks »

A rematch of a close fight with 3 KDs ? Fans would love that. Unless Whyte can get Joshua, Fury, Wilder or Ruiz (still with belts), what better options does he have ?
Noxy
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Noxy »

Why do it now?
SenorPipino
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by SenorPipino »

Of course I agree.

Whyte was lucky to survive that fight.

Why would he want to push his luck?

If he fights Parker enough times, Whyte will undoubtedly eventually lose. Maybe it would happen the next time.

When you're jockeying for mandatory status, why would he want the risk.
Cyclops
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Cyclops »

Right now a Parker fight is step backwards for Dillian. He rematched Chisora already, who actually has much more of an argument for winning the first fight. I’ve heard a few people generously giving Parker a draw, but not many saying he won. I picked JP to win in the build up, but Dillian murked him pure and simple, 12th round aside.

It’s a great fight to revisit in the future but not now.
chinarich
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by chinarich »

Whyte should take slightly easier fights to maintain his number one position, he has fought a decent enough level of opposition to get there; why risk too much?
oogiebe
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by oogiebe »

I'd like that fight. Whyte talks too much.
conan_the_cribber
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by conan_the_cribber »

Anybody who can think like a boxing manager has to come to the conclusion "yes i agree". It's all about risk/reward. It's a high risk fight for Whyte with zero reward if he wins. For Parker on the other hand, it's a high risk fight with a massive reward.

Andy Ruiz has a belt now. That also has to be factored in. Ruiz will start underdog in the next fight, but seriously, is AJ's chin going to get any stronger in the next fight. If Ruiz comes in at the same weight (or less) then AJ is going to be faced with the same problem, Ruiz will duck the jab and try to get in. What this all means, is that in a couple of months, Ruiz might still be the champion after the rematch. Why would Whyte want to jeopadize a potentially winnable fight against Ruiz by doing Parker a favour in granting a remtach? That would be insane.

Anyone who voted "no i don't agree" just wants to see good matchups i guess.
mcrow42
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by mcrow42 »

It makes sense for the fans, it would be an exciting fight again but I think Whyte probably wins again. It also makes no sense for Whyte, beating Parker again would do nothing for him and losing to him would torpedo his chances to get a shot.

I think from Whyte's POV he's wanting a guy farther up the ladder.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Dillian Whyte has the very best resume of all currently active fighters that have never engaged in a world title bout.

If he continues facing the calibre of opponents’ he keeps being matched up against, he’ll inevitably lose. Fatigue will also set in at some point, since he always seems to fight live dogs and isn’t granted the opportunity to face typical Deontay Wilder calibre title challengers.

I feel that Dillian Whyte owes Joseph Parker a rematch at some point in the near future, but he shouldn’t consider doing so until he’s at least challenged for the world title. ‘The Body Snatcher’ has earned the right to engage in a world championship fight.

The Kiwi can wait until after Whyte has received his well overdue title shot opportunity.

For the record, there’s a reason why Joseph Parker is highly-respected by his peers and is never criticised. It’s because he comes across as a genuinely nice guy and is a really talented fighter. The Kiwi is a warrior. However, he needs to be patient and expect to wait for Whyte to challenge for the world title before he receives an opportunity to avenge his loss.
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by morm »

after Rivas if he win, i like to see him with Wilder
leejonesjnr
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by leejonesjnr »

Whyte was being made to look like an easy nights work until the head clash and Parker had his senses scrambled and went into that strange 'staring into the middle distance' phase for half a dozen rounds.
People that are making out that Whyte smashed him with no caveats or contributory circumstances are either insincere or foolish.
I can see why Whyte wouldn't be in a rush to rematch given that he was fortunate that it went the way it did and the referee was so helpful, however given that Whyte has seemed to be willing to fight pretty much anyone I suspect that it may be the context in which the question was asked that has lead to this statement.
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by candyslim »

SenorPipino wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 13:14 Of course I agree.

Whyte was lucky to survive that fight.

Why would he want to push his luck?

If he fights Parker enough times, Whyte will undoubtedly eventually lose. Maybe it would happen the next time.

When you're jockeying for mandatory status, why would he want the risk.
Exactly. :TU:

Besides, Dillian has done enough luck-pushing. It's about time some of the other contenders did their bit and took a leaf out of Dillian's book. Yes Kubrat, yes Luis, yes Jarrell ... I'm looking at you

And you Dillian could learn a lot from Pulev about staying in the rankings by just doing enough yet without taking any risks (like he would ever take notice of that kind of advice :doh: )
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by candyslim »

Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 18:58 Dillian Whyte has the very best resume of all currently active fighters that have never engaged in a world title bout.

If he continues facing the calibre of opponents’ he keeps being matched up against, he’ll inevitably lose. Fatigue will also set in at some point, since he always seems to fight live dogs and isn’t granted the opportunity to face typical Deontay Wilder calibre title challengers.

I feel that Dillian Whyte owes Joseph Parker a rematch at some point in the near future, but he shouldn’t consider doing so until he’s at least challenged for the world title. ‘The Body Snatcher’ has earned the right to engage in a world championship fight.

The Kiwi can wait until after Whyte has received his well overdue title shot opportunity.

For the record, there’s a reason why Joseph Parker is highly-respected by his peers and is never criticised. It’s because he comes across as a genuinely nice guy and is a really talented fighter. The Kiwi is a warrior. However, he needs to be patient and expect to wait for Whyte to challenge for the world title before he receives an opportunity to avenge his loss.
I agree every word of that :TU:
Nondescript
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Nondescript »

candyslim wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 03:37 Exactly. :TU:

Besides, Dillian has done enough luck-pushing. It's about time some of the other contenders did their bit and took a leaf out of Dillian's book. Yes Kubrat, yes Luis, yes Jarrell ... I'm looking at you

And you Dillian could learn a lot from Pulev about staying in the rankings by just doing enough yet without taking any risks (like he would ever take notice of that kind of advice :doh: )
Pulev could learn a thing or two from Whyte about dodging final eliminators aswell.
greg
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by greg »

ValMar wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 12:49 Whyte claims this fight would be pointless, he has already defeated Parker. What do you think ?
..yep, I agree with that...as long as Whyte realises that AJ has every right to claim the same regarding their rematch..
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by oogiebe »

ValMar wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 12:49 Whyte claims this fight would be pointless, he has already defeated Parker. What do you think ?
If that were the case, then Ruiz doesn't need to give AJ a rematch, yes?
Enlightened-One
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 11:24 If that were the case, then Ruiz doesn't need to give AJ a rematch, yes?
There's an immediate rematch clause compelling Ruiz Jr. to face AJ again.

The Mexican-American might have wanted to face AJ again, because the Brit would offer him a monstrous payday.

Under normal circumstances, if the Joshua-Ruiz Jr. bout wasn't a high-profile affair, there'd be no reason for these guys to face each other again.

Of course, you know all this already, but perhaps you needed someone to remind you.

Going back on topic, Joseph Parker isn't a big name and a second victory over the Kiwi doesn't assist Dillian Whyte's career in any way.

That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see a rematch between the pair and nor does it mean that I don't think Parker deserves a shot to avenge his loss, but at this point in time, Dillian Whyte has bigger fish to fry and the Brit deserves to focus on achieving his goal to challenge for one of the world titles.
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by Enlightened-One »

greg wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 11:21 ..yep, I agree with that...as long as Whyte realises that AJ has every right to claim the same regarding their rematch..
At this point in time, AJ isn’t obliged to consider facing Dillian Whyte again, but if Joshua manages to avenge the Ruiz Jr. loss and reclaim his titles, with ‘The Body Snatcher’ eventually finding a way to become the mandatory challenger, then Anthony won’t have any choice but to face his fellow Londoner again.

Whoever holds the belts has to face their mandatory challengers that have earned their shot at the title, even if it results in the same fighters engaging in a rematch. :TU:
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by oogiebe »

Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 12:16 There's an immediate rematch clause compelling Ruiz Jr. to face AJ again.

The Mexican-American might have wanted to face AJ again, because the Brit would offer him a monstrous payday.

Under normal circumstances, if the Joshua-Ruiz Jr. bout wasn't a high-profile affair, there'd be no reason for these guys to face each other again.

Of course, you know all this already, but perhaps you needed someone to remind you.

Going back on topic, Joseph Parker isn't a big name and a second victory over the Kiwi doesn't assist Dillian Whyte's career in any way.

That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see a rematch between the pair and nor does it mean that I don't think Parker deserves a shot to avenge his loss, but at this point in time, Dillian Whyte has bigger fish to fry and the Brit deserves to focus on achieving his goal to challenge for one of the world titles.
Obviously there was a rematch clause. Just making a point in comparison.
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by gilgamesh »

If I was Whyte I wouldn't be fighting anybody except straight up bums until I get my title shot. He's already beaten enough contenders that he should be the mandatory as is, but since he's not, just keep on winning I guess against whoever. Stay away from Parker, and the like I'd suggest.
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by boxing_rocks »

greg wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 11:21 ..yep, I agree with that...as long as Whyte realises that AJ has every right to claim the same regarding their rematch..
Good one :TU:
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by candyslim »

Nondescript wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 10:36 Pulev could learn a thing or two from Whyte about dodging final eliminators aswell.
Yes you're absolutely right. He deserves no credit for beating bums like Browne, Helenius, Chisora or even Parker who lost his last two fights against top ten opposition He shouldn't get a title shot without first beating Rivas, Ortiz and Fury whether they want to fight him or not. Assuming he gets past them then he he should be made to fight a final eliminator against 2nd Battalion The Parachute Regiment.

In the meantime the title shot should go to someone who's actually worked hard to deserve it, someone like Kownacki or maybe Molina :TU:
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Re: Whyte does not want the rematch against Parker. Do you agree with him?

Post by oogiebe »

candyslim wrote: 04 Jul 2019, 17:29 Yes you're absolutely right. He deserves no credit for beating bums like Browne, Helenius, Chisora or even Parker who lost his last two fights against top ten opposition He shouldn't get a title shot without first beating Rivas, Ortiz and Fury whether they want to fight him or not. Assuming he gets past them then he he should be made to fight a final eliminator against 2nd Battalion The Parachute Regiment.

In the meantime the title shot should go to someone who's actually worked hard to deserve it, someone like Kownacki or maybe Molina :TU:
Dripping with sarcasm, yes, but beating Brown, Helenius and Chisora doesn't warrant a title shot. Beating Parker might have.
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