Upcoming HW bouts - predictions

[dagilechia]

in chronological order:

Ugonoh vs Różański - Ugonoh by KO, round 6-8, 75-25% - this will be a brawl

Joyce vs Jennings - Joyce by close UD, 55-45% - rather a snoozefest

Dubois vs Gorman - Gorman by SD, 50-50% - war, possibly with multiple KD's in both ways

Helenius vs Washington - Helenius by close UD, 60-40% - likely a snoozefest, i expect a KD on GW

Yoka vs Dimitrenko - Yoka by KO, round 6-8, 70-30% - competetive until it lasts, Yoka's not special

Allen vs Price - Allen by KO, round 3-4, 80-20% - brutal KO on glass jaw DP

Chisora vs Szpilka, Chisora by late KO, round 9-11, 60-40% - decent, competetive fight while it lasts

Whyte vs Rivas, Whyte by MD, 55-45% - a brawl that could go either way

Ajagba vs Demirezen, Ajagba by KO, round 5-7, 70-30% - a lot of bombs will be exchanged

Gassiev vs Dawejko, Gassiev by UD, 80-20% - Gassiev will be rather cautious

Kownacki vs Arreola, Kownacki by KO, round 4-5, 90-10% - Kownacki's domination and pressure

Wilder vs Ortiz, Wilder by late KO, round 7-9, 60-40% - similar to their first bout

Usyk vs Takam, Usyk by wide UD, 90-10% - Usyk will likely win every round, Takam will go forward

Joshua vs Ruiz, Joshua by KO, round 4-6, 55-45% - huge mystery

what are your predictions?

[pound per pound]

in chronological order:

Ugonoh vs Różański - Ugonoh by KO, round 6-8, 75-25% - this will be a brawl

Joyce vs Jennings - Joyce by close UD, 55-45% - rather a snoozefest

Dubois vs Gorman - Gorman by SD, 50-50% - war, possibly with multiple KD's in both ways

Helenius vs Washington - Helenius by close UD, 60-40% - likely a snoozefest, i expect a KD on GW

Yoka vs Dimitrenko - Yoka by KO, round 6-8, 70-30% - competetive until it lasts, Yoka's not special

Allen vs Price - Allen by KO, round 3-4, 80-20% - brutal KO on glass jaw DP

Chisora vs Szpilka, Chisora by late KO, round 9-11, 60-40% - decent, competetive fight while it lasts

Whyte vs Rivas, Whyte by MD, 55-45% - a brawl that could go either way

Ajagba vs Demirezen, Ajagba by KO, round 5-7, 70-30% - a lot of bombs will be exchanged

Gassiev vs Dawejko, Gassiev by UD, 80-20% - Gassiev will be rather cautious

Kownacki vs Arreola, Kownacki by KO, round 4-5, 90-10% - Kownacki's domination and pressure

Wilder vs Ortiz, Wilder by late KO, round 7-9, 60-40% - similar to their first bout

Usyk vs Takam, Usyk by wide UD, 90-10% - Usyk will likely win every round, Takam will go forward

Joshua vs Ruiz, Joshua by KO, round 4-6, 55-45% - huge mystery

what are your predictions?

Ugonoh vs Różański - Ugonoh UD

Joyce vs Jennings - Joyce, TKO 6

Dubois vs Gorman - Dubious TKO 8, in a close fight

Helenius vs Washington - Helenius by SD

Yoka vs Dimitrenko - Yoka by KO, DImitrenko should retire

Allen vs Price - Allen by KO,

Chisora vs Szpilka, Chisora UD, could be a good fight. ,

Whyte vs Rivas, Whyte via TKO in 8

Ajagba vs Demirezen, Ajagba by KO inside four rounds

Gassiev vs Dawejko, Gassiev by UD

Kownacki vs Arreola, Kownacki by TKO

Wilder vs Ortiz, Ortiz via KO in 4 rounds, glass exposed.

Usyk vs Takam, Usyk via easy decision d

Joshua vs Ruiz, Ruiz jr via TKO in 9.

[KiwiRider]

I mostly agree with Daggy.
Differences being;

Ortiz by mid KO. He is smart enough to make adjustments. I'm not sure Wilder is.

Dave Allen by early KO. Dave knows how vulnerable Price is, but will probably stop him to the body.

Kownacki by wide UD. Chris is tough enough to hang, though not busy enough to win rounds.

[oogiebe]

I mostly agree with Daggy.
Differences being;

Ortiz by mid KO. He is smart enough to make adjustments. I'm not sure Wilder is.

Dave Allen by early KO. Dave knows how vulnerable Price is, but will probably stop him to the body.

Kownacki by wide UD. Chris is tough enough to hang, though not busy enough to win rounds.

that's quite a call!

[KiwiRider]

that's quite a call!

Yep. Old man Ortiz is wiley enough to know his limitations, and Wilders. When he studies their previous fight, he will see how close he came. It's do or die for him career wise on the big money fights- so I recon he goes for it.

[dagilechia]

that's quite a call!

I wouldn't be surprised though. Ortiz was really close the first time. a lot of people used to think that Joshua and Wilder are unbeatable but we already know it's a myth. so i don't think that Kiwi's prediction is very shocking.

[dagilechia]

Ortiz is a smarter fighter no doubt the question is how much his age already affected his physical condition.

[oogiebe]

Ortiz is a smarter fighter no doubt the question is how much his age already affected his physical condition.

Wilder will take him out earlier. You folks really underestimate his improvements.

[jamamb]

Wilder will take him out earlier. You folks really underestimate his improvements.

he had two fights since then, in what specific ways did he improve

he will stop him earlier though

[oogiebe]

he had two fights since then, in what specific ways did he improve

he will stop him earlier though

He showed less inclination to go windmill. He had Breazeale in the corner and when Breazeale fought back (showing he wasn't as hurt as Wilder thought), Deontay showed the discipline to back off and reset. Those are two pretty good improvements.

[jamamb]

i think your looking for things

and he did trade with him and then got caught btw, thats when he backed off a little

[dagilechia]

Ortiz is a very live underdog, i predict Wilder to win though.. i don't know if he improved that much, imo he lost to Fury (no shame in that) then he blasted out Breazeale who was tailor made for him with his lack of defence and chin up

[oogiebe]

i think your looking for things

and he did trade with him and then got caught btw, thats when he backed off a little

Of course I'm looking for things. I do that every time I watch a fight. Those are two things I saw.

[jamamb]

i just dont really take a fight as short as that as a good barometer for improvement--seems like an active seeking out of it. and he did trade in the corner and got caught.

[dagilechia]

yeah Wilder got caught by slow Breazeale, what he showed in this fight is his huge punching power but we already knew that.

that being said i agree that he is a better fighter than he was 3-4 years ago. i just don't think he improved a lot since Ortiz fight.

[tiny_acres]

Wilder will take him out earlier. You folks really underestimate his improvements.

Wilder wins in 4

[SenorPipino]

Ortiz won't see 4.

If he goes for it, Wilder takes him out pronto. You don't slug with Wilder.

[KiwiRider]

i think your looking for things

and he did trade with him and then got caught btw, thats when he backed off a little

Yep. Brazeale pulled out a punch from the brink. Wilder got caught and backed off.
Wilder did try a body shot or 3 and landed one. That was kinda new.

[marvelous marv]

Wilder said post fight that one of his punches landed wrong and he hurt his elbow in that first flurry.

[oogiebe]

Wilder said post fight that one of his punches landed wrong and he hurt his elbow in that first flurry.

If you look at the exchange in the corner, it looks like Breazeale hits Wilder on an extended left arm.

[jamamb]

so his elbow pain and not this great new ring iq shown in a 60 second fight is why he stopped trading wildly?

and lol previously a hurt elbow was used as the excuse why he didnt throw straight much vs fury but then did throw it vs breazle, so what is it my bombsquadders?

[oogiebe]

so his elbow pain and not this great new ring iq shown in a 60 second fight is why he stopped trading wildly?

and lol previously a hurt elbow was used as the excuse why he didnt throw straight much vs fury but then did throw it vs breazle, so what is it my bombsquadders?

I didn't say he disengaged because of it. I said it looked like he got hit on the arm. Gadfly.

[jamamb]

ah okay, though if its true he messed his elbow harder to by the reasoning that his elbow explains the difference in punch tequinche between fury and dom fights

[oogiebe]

ah okay, though if its true he messed his elbow harder to by the reasoning that his elbow explains the difference in punch tequinche between fury and dom fights

What are you talking about? His right arm had been injured before the Fury fight, and in the Breazeale fight he said he hurt his left. You're not even making sense. You sipping some hard stuff??

[jamamb]

my bad, but either way if hes backing off out of pain thats not really a sign of improvement

besides its not like how you described, he did get into a wild exchange . improvement of ring iq? if thats what you want to think might as well go for it and see it bruh