Will Daniel Dubois become the next great champion ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 14 Jul 2019, 07:39

When I say "the great champion" I mean about Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Klitschko brothers.

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 14 Jul 2019, 07:40

Don’t see it.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 14 Jul 2019, 07:49

He looks good, but it's early to talk such things about him.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 14 Jul 2019, 07:51

I can see him picking up a strap but to consider him becoming a great I don't see it

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 14 Jul 2019, 07:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 07:49 He looks good, but it's early to talk such things about him.

This is a boxing forum, and majority of boxing fans like this kind of predictions.

Personally, I had several good (long-term) predictions, but I had failed with Helenius and Solis.

Grand_Cru54 · Post by **Grand_Cru54** » 14 Jul 2019, 08:05

We'll see. Let's wait he faces good boxers that won fights against good boxers. Gorman had not faced many winners in his carreer.
We will know when Dubois beats guys who faced winners.

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 14 Jul 2019, 08:16

i doubt that he will ever get the title. he's defence is poor.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 14 Jul 2019, 08:36

dagilechia wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 08:16 i doubt that he will ever get the title. he's defence is poor.

His defence is not his advantage, but I would not say "poor", rather "average". I noticed the same thing with DDD and Parker, sometimes, there is "a hole" in their guard, and this could be very dangerous if your opponent is a solid counter-puncher. Interesting, but nobody (or almost nobody) did not write about this "fact".

He is very strong, very powerful (I dare to compare him with Joshua). We don't know a lot about his chin and his stamina.

Anyway, I wish him all the best. I will follow his career, if I am alive and healthy. He will need a good management and a little bit of luck.

greg · Post by **greg** » 14 Jul 2019, 08:42

..who's Daniel Dubois?

Jeff_lacy_ko · Post by **Jeff_lacy_ko** » 14 Jul 2019, 09:03

ValMar wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 07:54
DrDuke wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 07:49 He looks good, but it's early to talk such things about him.
This is a boxing forum, and majority of boxing fans like this kind of predictions.

Personally, I had several good (long-term) predictions, but I had failed with Helenius and Solis.

Solis had a lot of talent and size. He just didnt seem interested... that is tough to predict as an outsider.

Helenius... another story

But your point is taken. Who knows at this point but so far so good with dubous

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 14 Jul 2019, 09:11

Lol at vitali being a great champion. He can certainly reach that level.

Lennox · Post by **Lennox** » 14 Jul 2019, 09:18

Spiker · Post by **Spiker** » 14 Jul 2019, 09:25

No he already is getting to big and robotic he doesn’t move his head either. Probably top 10 tho through sheer punch power.

Jeff_lacy_ko · Post by **Jeff_lacy_ko** » 14 Jul 2019, 11:20

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 09:11 Lol at vitali being a great champion. He can certainly reach that level.

Vitali was clearly a great fighter but his best win is..... corrie Sanders? He won a lot of rounds but ultimately lost against his 2 best opponents.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 14 Jul 2019, 11:27

Simply put. Too early to tell. But I don't see 'greatness' in his future at this time.

SenorPipino · Post by **SenorPipino** » 14 Jul 2019, 11:39

oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 11:27 Simply put. Too early to tell. But I don't see 'greatness' in his future at this time.

That's about right.

There's something wrong about excitedly trotting out the old "Is so-and-so the next great (insert weight division)" thread just because Dubois stopped one Nathan Gorman.

It indicates nothing, one way or another.

Perkin Warbeck · Post by **Perkin Warbeck** » 14 Jul 2019, 12:46

No one knows what the future will bring, but Daniel Dubois has the potential to become a great champion. He's the best heavyweight under age 25.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 14 Jul 2019, 14:28

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 11:20
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 09:11 Lol at vitali being a great champion. He can certainly reach that level.
Vitali was clearly a great fighter but his best win is..... corrie Sanders? He won a lot of rounds but ultimately lost against his 2 best opponents.

I don't necessarily agree that he was great, he most certainly didn't prove it and he didn't have a title reign near Joshua's. Wlad doesn't belong in that company, but vitali is embarrassing there.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Jul 2019, 14:36

Dubois has very slow feet, and very little upper body or head movement. I dont see him being a great.

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » 14 Jul 2019, 14:39

He is still on a learning curve but for now I'll say he has great potential.
We'll see where he is in a couple of years.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Jul 2019, 14:40

SenorPipino wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 11:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 11:27 Simply put. Too early to tell. But I don't see 'greatness' in his future at this time.

That's about right.

There's something wrong about excitedly trotting out the old "Is so-and-so the next great (insert weight division)" thread just because Dubois stopped one Nathan Gorman.

It indicates nothing, one way or another.

Gorman was pretty awful, milling away with his head down for much of the fight.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 14 Jul 2019, 16:17

I've had my fingers burnt by the likes of Dominick Guinn, so I now refuse to bestow greatness upon upcoming HWs before they deserve it, no matter how good they look.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 14 Jul 2019, 16:34

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 14:40
SenorPipino wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 11:39

That's about right.

There's something wrong about excitedly trotting out the old "Is so-and-so the next great (insert weight division)" thread just because Dubois stopped one Nathan Gorman.

It indicates nothing, one way or another.
Gorman was pretty awful, milling away with his head down for much of the fight.

I think DDD's power surprised him. He didn't want to be hit anymore. Had no answer to the jab.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Jul 2019, 17:35

oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 16:34
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 14:40

Gorman was pretty awful, milling away with his head down for much of the fight.
I think DDD's power surprised him. He didn't want to be hit anymore. Had no answer to the jab.

Yes, but wading in with both hands with your head down isnt really the right tactics against a huge puncher.

Jury's out on Dubois, he has obvious power, but power is the most overrated attribute in boxing.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 14 Jul 2019, 17:37

ya, gorman pretty straight away got unsettled by the power and strength. dub stayed cool and composed but was able to unload when it was there