How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
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apollo creed
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How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
I see Murata as a good mw fighter. In Japan would probably be a big event. The problem is Murata is a TR fighter. So besides Andrade, I don't see any other realistically top mw fight for GGG. Excluding Canelo, of course.
Another option could be Munguia but it ain't that appealing for me.
Another option could be Munguia but it ain't that appealing for me.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Murata did not deserve GGG fight yet. Golovkin vs Andrade on september, Murata vs Tureano Johnson main undercard. Winner against winner in December, less talk more fights.

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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Murata is facing Brant again
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Have you even seen Murata vs N'Dam N'Jikam. Hassan didn't won thatEnlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 07:48 Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!![]()
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
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apollo creed
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Charlo and Derevyanchenko are PBC fighters. Actually they could fight each other and I'd cheer for this fight.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 07:48 Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!![]()
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
Munguia as I said it doesn't appeal me.
Andrade may be the only interesting and realistically top mw opponent for GGG.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
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dagilechia
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
I'd like to see GGG vs Andrade too. If Zhenya wins that comfortably it would mean that GGG is not that past prime. However, i think that Andrade wants Canelo only.apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:45Charlo and Derevyanchenko are PBC fighters. Actually they could fight each other and I'd cheer for this fight.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 07:48 Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!![]()
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
Munguia as I said it doesn't appeal me.
Andrade may be the only interesting and realistically top mw opponent for GGG.
Boxing = business > sport
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apollo creed
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
EO is exaggerating as 2017-05-20 as being 'recently' lol and also he forgot that Murata avenged that loss.dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:40Have you even seen Murata vs N'Dam N'Jikam. Hassan didn't won thatEnlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 07:48 Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!![]()
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
You are right + Murata didn't lost in the first place. I had it 116-111 or 117-110 for Murata.apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:52EO is exaggerating as 2017-05-20 as being 'recently' lol and also he forgot that Murata avenged that loss.dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:40
Have you even seen Murata vs N'Dam N'Jikam. Hassan didn't won that
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
It'd be interesting to see if DAZN will impose it's will to make GGG vs Andrade happen.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
My comments were in the context of marketing and comparisons being inevitably drawn, which Eddie Hearn will milk for all its worth to enhance the reputation of his own fighter, hence my comments regarding the bout being “a tough sell!”dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:40Have you even seen Murata vs N'Dam N'Jikam. Hassan didn't won thatEnlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 07:48 Golovkin will be ridiculed for seeking an easy payday if he chose to fight Ryota Murata for the meaningless “regular” version of the WBA title, even if it provides him with a lucrative payday, rather than face Sergiy Derevyanchenko for the vacant (and far more prestigious) IBF strap or exploit his number one ranking to challenge Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade for their WBC and WBO championships.
Put it this way, a super-middleweight like Callum Smith, who doesn’t have an opponent for his September 14th fight-date, absolutely battered Hassan N'Dam, who recently defeated Ryota Murata.
And you’re proposing that the Brit’s fellow DAZN stablemate, GGG, who himself recently competed as a super-middleweight during his latest outing and is also looking for an opponent for the 14th September, faces Ryota Murata? It'll be a tough sell!![]()
I also feel that fight between a DAZN fighter, like GGG, and sometime linked with ESPN, such as Murata, could potentially be difficult to make.
Finally, a fight between GGG and Jaime Munguia would be a mismatch. And how many times can Gennadiy get away with facing smaller guys that have no credibility at 160lbs, whilst continuing to escape criticism?
I was conveying my thoughts from a commercial rather than a sporting perspective.
Callum Smith enjoyed a vastly easier ride against Hassan N'Dam than Ryota Murata did. And fight fans will be abundantly aware of this.
Regardless, the point I’ve made is that there are several better fighters for GGG to face (from both a sporting and commercial perspective) than Ryota Murata.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Murata in Japan is a huge fight. If it is makeable, Golovkin should take it.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
However, it sounds like Hearn will try to grab Canelo's September date and make a show with Golovkin and Usyk double header. Then it will likely be Munguia for Golovkin.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:21My comments were in the context of marketing and comparisons being inevitably drawn, which Eddie Hearn will milk for all its worth to enhance the reputation of his own fighter, hence my comments regarding the bout being “a tough sell!”dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 08:40
Have you even seen Murata vs N'Dam N'Jikam. Hassan didn't won that
I was conveying my thoughts from a commercial rather than a sporting perspective.
Callum Smith enjoyed a vastly easier ride against Hassan N'Dam than Ryota Murata did. And fight fans will be abundantly aware of this.
Regardless, the point I’ve made is that there are several better fighters for GGG to face (from both a sporting and commercial perspective) than Ryota Murata.
Murata in Japan is a far bigger seller than Callum, Andrade and Charlo combined, especially with his win over Brant. Just from a commercial standpoint.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Yup. The problem is that Murata is a TR fighter.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:43 Murata in Japan is a huge fight. If it is makeable, Golovkin should take it.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Soft opponent for GGG.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:57 However, it sounds like Hearn will try to grab Canelo's September date and make a show with Golovkin and Usyk double header. Then it will likely be Munguia for Golovkin.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Callum Smith earned the lion’s share of the $10m total purse pot for the George Groves bout.apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:59Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:21
My comments were in the context of marketing and comparisons being inevitably drawn, which Eddie Hearn will milk for all its worth to enhance the reputation of his own fighter, hence my comments regarding the bout being “a tough sell!”
I was conveying my thoughts from a commercial rather than a sporting perspective.
Callum Smith enjoyed a vastly easier ride against Hassan N'Dam than Ryota Murata did. And fight fans will be abundantly aware of this.
Regardless, the point I’ve made is that there are several better fighters for GGG to face (from both a sporting and commercial perspective) than Ryota Murata.![]()
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you are one hilarious twisted troll
Murata in Japan is a far bigger seller than Callum, Andrade and Charlo combined, especially with his win over Brant. Just from a commercial standpoint.![]()
18 months prior (March 2017), TGB Promotions won a purse bid, with a $1.6m offer, to stage the Anthony Dirrell-Callum Smith WBC super-middleweight title fight. The Brit would have received $800K, but declined the bout in order to participate in the far more lucrative WBSS tournament.
What are Ryota Murata's purses like?
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Terrific opponent.apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 10:06Soft opponent for GGG.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 09:57 However, it sounds like Hearn will try to grab Canelo's September date and make a show with Golovkin and Usyk double header. Then it will likely be Munguia for Golovkin.
Munguia is is no free ride.
And a Mexican warrior is needed in the opposite corner to legitimize Golovkin fighting on the sacred Mexican Independence Day date.
Too many Mexican product sponsors involved to allow 2 gringos to meet on that boxing showcase night.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Odd, Floyd seemed to do pretty well on those dates.SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 11:40Terrific opponent.
Munguia is is no free ride.
And a Mexican warrior is needed in the opposite corner to legitimize Golovkin fighting on the sacred Mexican Independence Day date.
Too many Mexican product sponsors involved to allow 2 gringos to meet on that boxing showcase night.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
The last of the intriguing black fighters.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 12:06Odd, Floyd seemed to do pretty well on those dates.SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 11:40
Terrific opponent.
Munguia is is no free ride.
And a Mexican warrior is needed in the opposite corner to legitimize Golovkin fighting on the sacred Mexican Independence Day date.
Too many Mexican product sponsors involved to allow 2 gringos to meet on that boxing showcase night.
Mayweather has prodigious talent and the ability to sell himself.
Thurman can't compare. It's not a coincidence that after 12 years as a pro, Thurman is finally headlining his first PPV.
Of course, it took a legend in the opposite corner for it to finally happen.
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Re: How would you see Murata as GGG's next opponent? It could be made?
Yeah, indeed. Dennis Hogan gave Munguia hell.SenorPipino wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 11:40Terrific opponent.
Munguia is is no free ride.
And a Mexican warrior is needed in the opposite corner to legitimize Golovkin fighting on the sacred Mexican Independence Day date.
Too many Mexican product sponsors involved to allow 2 gringos to meet on that boxing showcase night.