Is this the last we see of Dave Allen?

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Allen has a decent profile and comes across well so I can see him picking up some punditry work in the future. Hopefully he stops now if he really has health issues...
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Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?

He sounds like James toney but with a Yorkshire accent
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jonnyyorkshu wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 12:04
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?

He sounds like James toney but with a Yorkshire accent
Papi De Le Yorkshire-JamesToney

Fair point, but his content is good whenever I’ve heard him do it, and we have enough ‘style over substance’ pundits already, let’s get someone who can actually analyse and call a fight properly.
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We have to be realistic about damage, boxing is not good for you, it's not good for anyone.
I had 54 pro fights, I had an op on my nose, my hands are arthritic, my back is bad, and I have nerve damage in one of my eyes.
Now, I am a teacher, physically it's not dangerous but as with all jobs they take their piece of meat. Working full stop is not good for you, stress is the biggest killer, getting up early every day to slog your guts out doesn't do anyone any good.
We all sell ourselves for money, and the trick is to get the balence right.
If Dave Allen leaves boxing with some aches and pains and his mortgage paid off before he is 30, he should be a happy man.
All in all I feel teaching takes more out of me and the pay is less.
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Coco wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 12:13 We have to be realistic about damage, boxing is not good for you, it's not good for anyone.
I had 54 pro fights, I had an op on my nose, my hands are arthritic, my back is bad, and I have nerve damage in one of my eyes.
Now, I am a teacher, physically it's not dangerous but as with all jobs they take their piece of meat. Working full stop is not good for you, stress is the biggest killer, getting up early every day to slog your guts out doesn't do anyone any good.
We all sell ourselves for money, and the trick is to get the balence right.
If Dave Allen leaves boxing with some aches and pains and his mortgage paid off before he is 30, he should be a happy man.
All in all I feel teaching takes more out of me and the pay is less.
Thanks for that perspective Coco! :TU:
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Coco wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 12:13 We have to be realistic about damage, boxing is not good for you, it's not good for anyone.
True - however, it’s not just the fights - the cumulative effect of lots of sparring is a big factor.

Allen was used by Team GB as a sparring partner for AJ and others for some time, as well as Tyson Fury and even the Klitchkos.

I can imagine he has taken a lot of shots - particularly given his fighting style
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fingers crossed as its hard to see anything other than vicious beatings based on his lack of movement and defensive skills.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?
Yeah he’s definitely no company man, won’t suit the Sky set up at all.
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I hope he packs it in for his own good as he appears a decent guy. I've chatted to him at various shows and he is likeable but I have to say that I was glad Price one as I began to feel it was time this circus of the Allen show ended and it is time to let the boxers with a real future ahead of them got the slots he has been taking up.
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jonnyyorkshu wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 12:04
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?

He sounds like James toney but with a Yorkshire accent
Woo thee is gonna have some bread and dripping and cheese burgers!
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 13:32
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 11:58 Allen is a brilliant pundit, would definitely like to see him pursue that. I suspect he’s far too honest for Sky though, so maybe a gig on Channel 5 or BT?
Yeah he’s definitely no company man, won’t suit the Sky set up at all.
Of which Macklin is now a full paid up member of...
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tobyh5 wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 13:32 I hope he packs it in for his own good as he appears a decent guy. I've chatted to him at various shows and he is likeable but I have to say that I was glad Price one as I began to feel it was time this circus of the Allen show ended and it is time to let the boxers with a real future ahead of them got the slots he has been taking up.
What if he'd won? He rolled the dice and was willing to fight anyone for our entertainment. Good luck to him.
The sport is a circus ultimately, the fighters get chucked aside eventually, always have.
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samwbr wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 14:53
tobyh5 wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 13:32 I hope he packs it in for his own good as he appears a decent guy. I've chatted to him at various shows and he is likeable but I have to say that I was glad Price one as I began to feel it was time this circus of the Allen show ended and it is time to let the boxers with a real future ahead of them got the slots he has been taking up.
What if he'd won? He rolled the dice and was willing to fight anyone for our entertainment. Good luck to him.
The sport is a circus ultimately, the fighters get chucked aside eventually, always have.
Yeah, good luck to him but honestly, it was all a little pantomine and as I said, taking slots from guys with a real future and chance at world level, no one in any sane mind thought Allen had that kind of future. He maxed out and well done to him, I am full of admiration of how he has maxed out the return on frankly area level talent, shoddy work ethic (in MOST fights and camps) but a big set of balls.
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Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:09 Is he hinting at some health issues he’s only 27. Must be something serious at that age, like maybe cancer or AIDS
Wtf??
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:11
Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:09 Is he hinting at some health issues he’s only 27. Must be something serious at that age, like maybe cancer or AIDS
Wtf??
I know he suffered from depression bad enough that he took a break from boxing when he was 23.
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Wish him well but Chisora said he was out at the bar until 2:30am the day before the fight.....
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Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:13
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:11

Wtf??
Well he says he has bad health and is old but is only 27 so what is he talking bout?
No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
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black panther wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18 Wish him well but Chisora said he was out at the bar until 2:30am the day before the fight.....
True?
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oogiebe wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:20
black panther wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18 Wish him well but Chisora said he was out at the bar until 2:30am the day before the fight.....
True?
He said it in his IFL post fight interview and because of this he was happy for price and although he likes Allen, he isn’t serious.
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Noxy wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 08:59 Whatever happens, let's not all jump on the - Dave Allen isn't that good - bandwagon. He is good and he's shown that. He got beaten last night by another good fighter. It happens.

Personally, I'd like to see him call it a day too but it's his decision. Reading his tweet, I'm wondering whether he's actually fit to do it still "declining health".
When has he shown he's good? He's def shown he's tough, but I listed seven legit domestics who are streets ahead of him ability-wise. It's not jumping on the guy, it's just how it stands.
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black panther wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18 Wish him well but Chisora said he was out at the bar until 2:30am the day before the fight.....
He doesn't drink alcohol
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Steveh583 wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:27
Noxy wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 08:59 Whatever happens, let's not all jump on the - Dave Allen isn't that good - bandwagon. He is good and he's shown that. He got beaten last night by another good fighter. It happens.

Personally, I'd like to see him call it a day too but it's his decision. Reading his tweet, I'm wondering whether he's actually fit to do it still "declining health".
When has he shown he's good? He's def shown he's tough, but I listed seven legit domestics who are streets ahead of him ability-wise. It's not jumping on the guy, it's just how it stands.
Webb and Browne, for example. I haven’t seen your post, seven UK guys streets ahead of him - Fury, Whyte, AJ, Chisora, Price, Hughie and DD? I won’t argue with that. The point is - as someone else posted -the Price match was a fair one. Price turned up last night and was better than he has sometimes been in the past. That’s why it played out the way it did.
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Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:09 Is he hinting at some health issues he’s only 27. Must be something serious at that age, like maybe cancer or AIDS
:lol: :lol: Mentalist
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Shhhh wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:54
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 15:18

No idea, but it’s a bit weird to jump straight to cancer or AIDS tbh
Yeah I didn’t know what he was talking about I’m just guessing
Fair enough. I’ll guess either Ebola virus or leprosy then
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