Tyson Fury vs Muhammad Ali?

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Tyson Fury vs Muhammad Ali?

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I believe that athletes get better over time. And if we compare a 6’3 Ali to a 6’9 Fury, I’d predict that fury would wear Ali down and get a late stoppage.

Any thoughts?
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I don't see Fury winning in any form. Let alone stopping Ali. He's able to look real slick against guys that don't box or move. Ali would be a vastly superior version of the style Fury attempts to fight with.
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It's Boxing Blasphemy to go against Ali but I think Fury gives him all he can handle.
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:lol: ridiculous to have him winning. By stoppage? :lol: :lol:
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ASBoxing20 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 05:10 I believe that athletes get better over time. And if we compare a 6’3 Ali to a 6’9 Fury, I’d predict that fury would wear Ali down and get a late stoppage.

Any thoughts?
Not a chance,stop Ali? What the hell are you smoking lol. Ali by late stoppage or ud.
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ASBoxing20 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 05:10 I believe that athletes get better over time. And if we compare a 6’3 Ali to a 6’9 Fury, I’d predict that fury would wear Ali down and get a late stoppage.

Any thoughts?
I believe that when a sport is first introduced, there are improvements for a while, usually 30 years or so. New strategies, and techniques are development that are improvements over what was originally tried.
Then the rate of improvement decreases, eventually stopping. sometimes there eras (the heavyweight division for example) it goes up and down a little over time. Other sports pretty much stays the same.

A lot of people simply have no interest in what came before them and automatically assume that what they see is better than what it used to be. They can't be bothered to actually think.

As for Ali-Fury, Ali would have little to know trouble with him. He would hit him at will and would seldom be hit. A stoppage in the mid-late rounds is the most likely outcome. Best case scenario for Fury is that he would go the distance and lose a lopsided decision.

Would it be different if they fought 10 times? No.
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goose 5 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 20:19 It's Boxing Blasphemy to go against Ali but I think Fury gives him all he can handle.
There are guys I'd pick to beat Ali who aren't necessarily deemed as better than him, just bad style matchups for him. This is not a bad style matchup for him. This is a pretty easy night's work for him. Everything Fury does, Ali does better.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 11:22
ASBoxing20 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 05:10 I believe that athletes get better over time. And if we compare a 6’3 Ali to a 6’9 Fury, I’d predict that fury would wear Ali down and get a late stoppage.

Any thoughts?
I believe that when a sport is first introduced, there are improvements for a while, usually 30 years or so. New strategies, and techniques are development that are improvements over what was originally tried.
Then the rate of improvement decreases, eventually stopping. sometimes there eras (the heavyweight division for example) it goes up and down a little over time. Other sports pretty much stays the same.

A lot of people simply have no interest in what came before them and automatically assume that what they see is better than what it used to be. They can't be bothered to actually think.

As for Ali-Fury, Ali would have little to know trouble with him. He would hit him at will and would seldom be hit. A stoppage in the mid-late rounds is the most likely outcome. Best case scenario for Fury is that he would go the distance and lose a lopsided decision.

Would it be different if they fought 10 times? No.
:TU: Perfect summation
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Ali wins an easy UD
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How does Fury win? KO? No. Out slicking Ali? No. Better workrate? No.

The modern athletes only works for some sports. Look at long jumpers. Mike Powell's record has stood for 28 years.

Prime Ali beats any heavyweight ever IMO.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:34 How does Fury win? KO? No. Out slicking Ali? No. Better workrate? No.

The modern athletes only works for some sports. Look at long jumpers. Mike Powell's record has stood for 28 years.

Prime Ali beats any heavyweight ever IMO.
Styles make fights, so he can be beaten, but he's a handful for anyone ever, and I don't see Fury beating him that's for damn sure.
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gilgamesh wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:38
keithmoonhangover wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:34 How does Fury win? KO? No. Out slicking Ali? No. Better workrate? No.

The modern athletes only works for some sports. Look at long jumpers. Mike Powell's record has stood for 28 years.

Prime Ali beats any heavyweight ever IMO.
Styles make fights, so he can be beaten, but he's a handful for anyone ever, and I don't see Fury beating him that's for damn sure.
I agree mate. Although Fury might stop him late. ;-)
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:41
gilgamesh wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:38

Styles make fights, so he can be beaten, but he's a handful for anyone ever, and I don't see Fury beating him that's for damn sure.
I agree mate. Although Fury might stop him late. ;-)
That's if Ali got HIV or Parkinson's disease. :lol:
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elmersalsa wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 16:45
keithmoonhangover wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 12:41

I agree mate. Although Fury might stop him late. ;-)
That's if Ali got HIV or Parkinson's disease. :lol:
I was being facetious.
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Ali is probably one of the rare skilled boxers who can potentially outbox Fury. I go with Ali by points, or TKO if it goes like Otto Wallin fight.
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Fury is probably one of the rare skilled boxers who can potentially outbox Ali.
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Was that a joke?
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Even Fury himself gives example from Ali when it comes to boxing skills :box:


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Then they say ''Or like Tyson Fury'' . :lol:
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Duran1970 wrote: 28 Jun 2020, 13:15 Was that a joke?
Believe it or not, he is serious.
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Duran1970 wrote: 28 Jun 2020, 13:15 Was that a joke?
Ambling Alp II wrote: 30 Jun 2020, 21:28
Duran1970 wrote: 28 Jun 2020, 13:15 Was that a joke?
Believe it or not, he is serious.
Here go the narrow-minded hordes. :yay:
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Yeah, that's what it is; Narrow minded hordes with their wacky mantra.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 11:41 Yeah, that's what it is; Narrow minded hordes with their wacky mantra.
Nothing to add really. Today you are just brilliant.
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You don't have to be brilliant to see that Ali would have beat Fury. Not exactly a tough call.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 13:33 You don't have to be brilliant to see that Ali would have beat Fury. Not exactly a tough call.
Nothing wrong with picking an elite level fighter over another one. The dumb part is in all those "not a tough call", "wouldn't land a single punch", "would win easily", etc, etc, etc.
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Only ones elite
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