Ricardo Lopez Vs Humberto Gonazales

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 27 May 2006, 12:03

Ricardo Lopez Vs Humberto Gonazales -

Who win's this (should have happened) Jr. Fly Wt contest?

Humberto can box as well as bang (as evident Vs his two boxing victories over Carbajal)....but could he "box" enough to beat R. Lopez....or would he have to try and slug his way to a KO victory?

If he tries to slug....does his chinny chin fail him?....My guess if he tries to slug he better catch Lopez within the first 3 or 4 rounds...after that Lopez Ko's him...

If these two settle into a boxing match.....who wins?.....My thought is Lopez jab plays the key role and he wins by close Dec...or late TKO.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 27 May 2006, 12:08

I have Lopez beating anyone in his weight class from the beginning of time. I'd bet on Lopez and I think he wins regardless of strategy taken by Gonzalez. But his best shot at a win would be to box. For me the Key is Lopez's jab and his ability to just wait Gonzalez out for the first few rounds where his ring generalship would just be too much for Humberto.

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 27 May 2006, 12:19

BoxBuzz wrote:I have Lopez beating anyone in his weight class from the beginning of time. I'd bet on Lopez and I think he wins regardless of strategy taken by Gonzalez. But his best shot at a win would be to box. For me the Key is Lopez's jab and his ability to just wait Gonzalez out for the first few rounds where his ring generalship would just be too much for Humberto.

I agree with you here BoxBuzz.....especially at Strawweight - At Jr. Fly I think a few on their best nights could have given Lopez a run for his money (but only a few others).

This definitely would have been an interesting match-up simply because Gonzales could box...but had a huge left hook as well.....and I think was probably stronger physically at Jr. Fly then was Lopez.

With that said Lopez had fantastic ring generalship...and could KO Gonzales at any point in the fight.....and likely out box him to a close Dec victory as well.

Though I will say...I would have loved to have seen a R. Lopez Vs Ratanapol Sor Vorapin at Strawweight when both guys were in their primes.

Lopez TKO R. S. Vorapin at Jr. Fly Wt...but that was when he was way past his prime - In his prime R. Sor Vorapin was simply a wreckingball at Strawweight just like Lopez.....he had 18 or so title defenses of his IBF belt.

Though without question R. Lopez would be the favorite going into such a match-up.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 27 May 2006, 17:05

BoxBuzz wrote:I have Lopez beating anyone in his weight class from the beginning of time. I'd bet on Lopez and I think he wins regardless of strategy taken by Gonzalez. But his best shot at a win would be to box. For me the Key is Lopez's jab and his ability to just wait Gonzalez out for the first few rounds where his ring generalship would just be too much for Humberto.

I agree Box Buzz.

Lopez is an ATG.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 30 May 2006, 03:02

Lopez was one of the most well rounded fighters of any era. He ate up Vorapin & Sorjaturang, and he overcame Rosendo Alvarez who had a significant weight advantage over him. Lopez' performance in that rematch is one of the best performances ever by a guy under suffocating pressure. stamina, skill, movement, power, guts, the ability to rally back - that was his ultimate test and he passed. a great, great fight. Chiquita could be a bit of a monster, but he could get KO'd in fights he wasn't supposed to. Hard one to pick, but I like Lopez' versatility. Chiquita could box, but he could be very sloppy

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 30 May 2006, 03:40

Decagon wrote:Sorjaturang was very inexperienced when Lopez fought him. Vorapin was coming off a pair of KO losses, and was far past his prime.

good names, still

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 30 May 2006, 13:07

Decagon wrote:Sorjaturang was very inexperienced when Lopez fought him. Vorapin was coming off a pair of KO losses, and was far past his prime.

Yes the best possible match-up in recent times (last 25 years of so) in Strawweight history would have been a prime R. Lopez Vs a prime R. Sor Vorapin -

I'd give R. Lopez the edge....but Sor Vorapin could definitely have KO'd him.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 31 May 2006, 14:21

Decagon wrote:Oliver McCall beat Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes. Aren't those "good names"?

lol

but mccall didn't have a lengthy title reign and a great rivalry that he came out on top of (alvarez). but i see your point

only a year or two later sorjaturang would come back from the brink to destroy Chiquita, so that would be a win that looked better afterward for Ricardo Lopez.

so how good was vorapin in his prime?

for level of opposition, i reckon Carbajal and Gonzalez fought some top class fighters, including one another

meade95 · Post by **meade95** » 31 May 2006, 16:33

viciousmaussa wrote:
Decagon wrote:Oliver McCall beat Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes. Aren't those "good names"?
lol

but mccall didn't have a lengthy title reign and a great rivalry that he came out on top of (alvarez). but i see your point

only a year or two later sorjaturang would come back from the brink to destroy Chiquita, so that would be a win that looked better afterward for Ricardo Lopez.

so how good was vorapin in his prime?

for level of opposition, i reckon Carbajal and Gonzalez fought some top class fighters, including one another

R. Sor Vorapin was a wreaking ball at Straw in his prime. Second only too R. Lopez....had they fought in their primes at SW....the edge would have to go to R. Lopez (he had more tools) but R. Sor Vorapin was somewhat like K. Galaxy in that he just kept coming and had a lethel left hand......Very good one punch KO power.

When Lopez beat Sorjaturong......he was very green still only fighting 3 years...and making the Straw weight limit just gutted him for that fight...he never fought at Strawweight after that. (and was really fighting above there anyway before getting that shot).