Groups of boxers who were each others' common opponents

Cholo_cws · Post by **Cholo_cws** » 23 Jul 2019, 18:00

For no other initial purpose than to kill some time on a recent train journey I started to think about groups of boxers who were all each others' common opponents. It's become a bit more addictive and I even found myself doing it to help me nod off at night.
Anyway, plenty of fours come to mind (eg. Hagler, Minter, Finnegan and Sibson) and I eventually found a group of five - Ali, Lyle, Shavers, Ellis, Bugner - but that's it to date. Maybe there's a similar thread somewhere but otherwise anyone up for finding more and raising the bar? I'd be impressed if anyone finds a five in the 21st century. Extra kudos for thinking outside the box.

prewarboxing · Post by **prewarboxing** » 23 Jul 2019, 19:21

This is a great idea. I will give this some serious research. You may have to wait a while and it might be a little more obscure but I will try to come up with a six

Miles Templeton

chrisjs1985 · Post by **chrisjs1985** » 23 Jul 2019, 20:04

So they have to have ALL fought oneanother at least once?

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 24 Jul 2019, 04:04

Arguello, Boza Edwards, Chacon, Limon, and I'm sure i must be missing one...? (Navarete fought 3 of the above didn't he but that doesn't quite count, Olivares fought two, uhhh.....)

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 24 Jul 2019, 04:43

Good idea, got four straight off Marciano, Louis, Charles and Walcott but need to think about more, hmmmm

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 24 Jul 2019, 04:53

The Black Murderers Row fighters might be a good place to look

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 24 Jul 2019, 08:10

Lewis/Tyson/Botha/Holyfield

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 24 Jul 2019, 08:27

Risko/Schmeling/Walker/Sharkey

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 24 Jul 2019, 08:33

Loughran/Baer/Carnera/Uzcudun

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 24 Jul 2019, 08:36

There must be one around the Pac/Marquez Axis and probably another around Casa/Corrales etc. Maybe one around the Cunningham/Huck Axis too. I got close but realised Hernandez hadn't fought all of them so failed.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 24 Jul 2019, 09:13

Floyd, cotto, Mosley, pac

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 24 Jul 2019, 09:33

Carlos Ortiz, Len Matthews, Kenny Lane, Doug Vaillant and Dave Charnley - 5

Jose Napoles, Hedgemon Lewis, Armando Muniz, Raul Soriano, Ernie Lopez and Adolph Pruitt - 6 (on this one, funny enough, you could substitute Shotgun Albarado for Jose Napoles and still end up with 6.)

Bundana · Post by **Bundana** » 24 Jul 2019, 09:40

There are at least 2 groups of seven:

Benny Leonard
Rocky Kansas
Freddie Welsh
Johnny Dundee
Charlie White
Johnny Kilbane
Richie Mitchell

And if we replace Mitchell with Joe Mandot, we have another "7".

prewarboxing · Post by **prewarboxing** » 24 Jul 2019, 10:12

Now I said I might have to go a bit obscure for most of you. These were all great fighters though.

Eight

Johnny McGrory
Benny Sharkey
Dick Corbett
Dave Crowley
Benny Caplan
Dave Finn
Johnny Peters
Cuthbert Taylor

I don't know if all of the contests are on Boxrec but I have got reports for all of them.

Miles Templeton

prewarboxing · Post by **prewarboxing** » 24 Jul 2019, 10:18

They all fought Arly Hollingsworth as well, so that's nine

Miles Templeton

chrisjs1985 · Post by **chrisjs1985** » 24 Jul 2019, 10:36

Eder Jofre
Jose Medel
Danny Kid
Eloy Sanchez

There's got to be a high number between Jose Medel, Eloy Sanchez, Jose Becerra, Dwight Hawkins, ignacio Pina, Danny Kid etc; maybe I'll find some time later to work out just how much.

Cholo_cws · Post by **Cholo_cws** » 24 Jul 2019, 12:18

Excellent work on here. It'd be interesting to know who comes out top of some of these mini-round robins (where it's not obvious.)

prewarboxing · Post by **prewarboxing** » 24 Jul 2019, 12:30

Cholo_cws wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 12:18 Excellent work on here. It'd be interesting to know who comes out top of some of these mini-round robins (where it's not obvious.)

I know the British one from the 1930s is a bit obscure to most but I can post all the results on here if there is the interest. This period is my main area of research and so it is right up my street.

I reckon I can easily get to double figures by looking at another similar group from the same era. Would that also be of interest to anyone?

Miles Templeton.

prewarboxing · Post by **prewarboxing** » 24 Jul 2019, 12:35

By the way, isn't it great talking about actual boxing history. I reckon I could easily get the total well above one hundred if I started to include the mythicals........arf....arf!

chrisjs1985 · Post by **chrisjs1985** » 24 Jul 2019, 13:21

prewarboxing wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 12:30
Cholo_cws wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 12:18 Excellent work on here. It'd be interesting to know who comes out top of some of these mini-round robins (where it's not obvious.)
I know the British one from the 1930s is a bit obscure to most but I can post all the results on here if there is the interest. This period is my main area of research and so it is right up my street.

I reckon I can easily get to double figures by looking at another similar group from the same era. Would that also be of interest to anyone?

Miles Templeton.

I would definitely be interested.

Also, while your at it who wins Johnny McGrory or Barry McGuigan? I kid.

Indeed. Actual posts of historical importance. I'm glad to see the idea of a sub-forum for mythical matches has came to fruition.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 24 Jul 2019, 15:16

Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 24 Jul 2019, 15:17

Controversial wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 04:43 Good idea, got four straight off Marciano, Louis, Charles and Walcott but need to think about more, hmmmm

Oh, missed it.

scartissue · Post by **scartissue** » 24 Jul 2019, 15:39

Jose Napoles, Eddie Perkins, Angel Robinson Garcia, Bunny Grant and Clyde Gray - 5

Ambling Alp II · Post by **Ambling Alp II** » 24 Jul 2019, 15:50

That's another good one.
How about this one:
Johnny Risko, Ernie Schaaf, Paolino Uzcudun, Tommy Loughran, and Max Baer.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 24 Jul 2019, 15:54

Holmes, Tyson, Berbick, Williams.

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