Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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It should be Povetkin vs fury undercard Lomachenko Campbell :bag:
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Re: Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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This might be a decent fight. I like.............. :TU:
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I like this fight!

The 24-year-old Fury acquitted himself really well against the likes of Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker. Hughie is currently about the same age as Anthony Joshua was when he made his pro debut.

He’s also younger than the heavily-hyped Efe Ajagba but has mixed with far superior opposition than the Nigerian.

In stark contrast, Alexander Povetkin is on the cusp of turning forty and would have been inactive for the previous twelve months come fight night.

If the Russian has anything left then he should emerge victorious, but I’m going to slightly favour Hughie (by the smallest of margins) to defy expectations to score the upset. And I realise I'm going to be in the very small minority by making that bold prediction.

Fury has made mistakes in the past, but he’s young enough to learn from them and improve. Whereas Povetkin is on the decline and should be considered ready-for-taking.
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Re: Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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Povetkin will stick chest to chest. Fight inside and knockout Hughievin 6.
Hughie does not have the power to keep Povetkin off of him. Not does he have the work rate.
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Fury gets ko :wave:
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:doh:
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Povetkin in no kubrat pulev. The Russian is a bum because of no stamina if when not on PED. we saw that against marko Huck and Anthony joushua.

If povetkin get tested and clean, then hughie will school him because hughie is lot bigger and better tjan Marco Huck ever was.
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I feel this is a 50-50 providing pov is clean. Had it been a year ago I'd favour pov. If it was in a year I'd favour Hughie. But I think this is true crossover time in there careers where it is kinda hard to pic. I would of rathered hgrovic, or usyk get a crack at fading pov before he is done, but I'm always a fan of even matchups.
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Re: Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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Good fight. Hughie trying to make good on his mouth.
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Re: Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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gregregegg wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 12:16 I feel this is a 50-50 providing pov is clean. Had it been a year ago I'd favour pov. If it was in a year I'd favour Hughie. But I think this is true crossover time in there careers where it is kinda hard to pic. I would of rathered hgrovic, or usyk get a crack at fading pov before he is done, but I'm always a fan of even matchups.
Hughie is 3rd best HW in UK. Now can you be nice and shut up !!
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Boxtune wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 12:23
gregregegg wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 12:16 I feel this is a 50-50 providing pov is clean. Had it been a year ago I'd favour pov. If it was in a year I'd favour Hughie. But I think this is true crossover time in there careers where it is kinda hard to pic. I would of rathered hgrovic, or usyk get a crack at fading pov before he is done, but I'm always a fan of even matchups.
Hughie is 3rd best HW in UK. Now can you be nice and shut up !!
Are you ggggg’s wife?
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Boxtune wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 11:54 Povetkin in no kubrat pulev. The Russian is a bum because of no stamina if when not on PED. we saw that against marko Huck and Anthony joushua.

If povetkin get tested and clean, then hughie will school him because hughie is lot bigger and better tjan Marco Huck ever was.
..I'm not a fan of the "Russian bum"...however, has Hughie schooled anyone with a pulse, EVER? :maybe:
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Now Povetkin will at least outfight Hughie. Fury can't box under solid pressure well.
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Fury is 24. The level of opposition he faced 99% of others don't see once in their whole career.

Still. What he didn't show in his outings against tougher opponents (parker, pulev) is pulling the trigger/sit down on his punches.

THIS he has to do/overcome the natural reluctancy to dish it out heavy/ goin' all out, knowing it opens you up for counterfire versus skilled foes. Something Vlad had to learn the hard way in just the last....🤔.. whatever... fornicate it. I'm off again

No points win for fury, if he doesn't hurt him incoming, old pov will eat him up on the inside! 50/50
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Boxtune wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 11:54 Povetkin in no kubrat pulev. The Russian is a bum because of no stamina if when not on PED. we saw that against marko Huck and Anthony joushua.

If povetkin get tested and clean, then hughie will school him because hughie is lot bigger and better tjan Marco Huck ever was.
Are you Bulgarian by any chance Boxtune? I don't get your huge respect for Pulev and none at all for Povetkin. In my opinion those two and Ortiz are roughly on the same level, ageing but still respectable and highly rated senior contenders.

When you compare resumés though, Povetkin's is by far the best.

Hughie is a strange one. I've never given up hope on him. He has proved he can mix it with the big boys and he is still very young for a heavyweight. He has lots of time to get better and hopefully develop a better balance between being hard to hit and boring the arse off people. I gave him a very good chance of being just too damn young for Pulev. I don't think I'll repeat that mistake especially since Povetkin is a far bigger puncher than Pulev. Hughie's got a good chin though whatever else he might be short of.

What I would love to see though is for Pulev, Povetkin and Ortiz to fight each other but I do believe Povetkin would be the only one up for the challenge. The other two would consider either match too much risk for too little reward. In my opinion obviously.
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candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 11:54 Povetkin in no kubrat pulev. The Russian is a bum because of no stamina if when not on PED. we saw that against marko Huck and Anthony joushua.

If povetkin get tested and clean, then hughie will school him because hughie is lot bigger and better tjan Marco Huck ever was.
Are you Bulgarian by any chance Boxtune? I don't get your huge respect for Pulev and none at all for Povetkin. In my opinion those two and Ortiz are roughly on the same level, ageing but still respectable and highly rated senior contenders.

When you compare resumés though, Povetkin's is by far the best.

Hughie is a strange one. I've never given up hope on him. He has proved he can mix it with the big boys and he is still very young for a heavyweight. He has lots of time to get better and hopefully develop a better balance between being hard to hit and boring the arse off people. I gave him a very good chance of being just too damn young for Pulev. I don't think I'll repeat that mistake especially since Povetkin is a far bigger puncher than Pulev. Hughie's got a good chin though whatever else he might be short of.

What I would love to see though is for Pulev, Povetkin and Ortiz to fight each other but I do believe Povetkin would be the only one up for the challenge. The other two would consider either match too much risk for too little reward. In my opinion obviously.
No ... i am not Bulgarian. I'm an asian.
I can bet on my car , that pulev will smoke Any version of povetkin that was not on drugs . The druged version povetkin would have beaten joshua.
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Good fight. I like Hughie, but I liked Hughie against Pulev too. :maybe:
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Re: Povetkin vs Hughie fury

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Boxtune wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 14:11
candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 13:59

Are you Bulgarian by any chance Boxtune? I don't get your huge respect for Pulev and none at all for Povetkin. In my opinion those two and Ortiz are roughly on the same level, ageing but still respectable and highly rated senior contenders.

When you compare resumés though, Povetkin's is by far the best.

Hughie is a strange one. I've never given up hope on him. He has proved he can mix it with the big boys and he is still very young for a heavyweight. He has lots of time to get better and hopefully develop a better balance between being hard to hit and boring the arse off people. I gave him a very good chance of being just too damn young for Pulev. I don't think I'll repeat that mistake especially since Povetkin is a far bigger puncher than Pulev. Hughie's got a good chin though whatever else he might be short of.

What I would love to see though is for Pulev, Povetkin and Ortiz to fight each other but I do believe Povetkin would be the only one up for the challenge. The other two would consider either match too much risk for too little reward. In my opinion obviously.
No ... i am not Bulgarian. I'm an asian.
I can bet on my car , that pulev will smoke Any version of povetkin that was not on drugs . The druged version povetkin would have beaten joshua.
Fair enough. I don't agree but you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not saying Povetkin has never taken PEDs but what was used against him to get his fight with Wilder cancelled, was meldonium which was perfectly legal up until about a month before and used by Russians the way we might take aspirin.

Eventually they (VADA/WBC) admitted they couldn't be sure the tiny amount in his body wasn't left over from before the ban. He gets way more hate than he deserves.
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Assuming Povetkin is fights anywhere near his peak ability level, he'll have no trouble with Fury. I don't think Fury can deal with a strong, aggressive puncher who also has world-class ability. Additionally, I question Fury's chin. If this fight comes off, and both guys fight their best, I pick Povetkin by KO or TKO.

But the big question is, how much does Povetkin have left? He'll be a couple of days short of 40 years old when he steps into the ring with Fury. This will also be Al's first fight in a full year. On top of that, his last bout was a brutal KO loss. So, there's always the chance that Povetkin's lost something physically at this point. We just don't know.

Povetkin put on a good, tough effort against the bigger, stronger, power-hitting Joshua. Until the fourth or fifth, Povetkin was in the fight and taking it to Joshua before the tide turned decisively in favor of the Briton. The version of Povetkin we saw against Joshua will more than sufficiently good to beat Fury. But again, it remains to be seen if Povetkin's lost anything this past year.
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candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 13:59 He has proved he can mix it with the big boys....
I'm not so sure of that. Hughie did a lot of running against Pulev and Parker. I believe that Fury fights that way when he discovers that he's vulnerable. It could be that not many heavies can make Hughie feel that vulnerability, but those who can put him into full reverse gear.

In other words, strong guys with a punch probably make Hughie gun shy. If Hughie had planted his feet more against Parker and Pulev, he might very well have been KO'd.

Just my guess.
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T Rex Arms vs Tour De France
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JohnReed wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 16:50
candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 13:59 He has proved he can mix it with the big boys....
I'm not so sure of that. Hughie did a lot of running against Pulev and Parker. I believe that Fury fights that way when he discovers that he's vulnerable. It could be that not many heavies can make Hughie feel that vulnerability, but those who can put him into full reverse gear.

In other words, strong guys with a punch probably make Hughie gun shy. If Hughie had planted his feet more against Parker and Pulev, he might very well have been KO'd.

Just my guess.
I agree John. Hard to say Hughie proved he can mix it up with the big boys when he lost both times he tried against 'not quite' top guys. He's hardly impressive.
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gilgamesh wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 16:52 T Rex Arms vs Tour De France
:lol: LMAO!
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JohnReed wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 16:50
candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 13:59 He has proved he can mix it with the big boys....
I'm not so sure of that. Hughie did a lot of running against Pulev and Parker. I believe that Fury fights that way when he discovers that he's vulnerable. It could be that not many heavies can make Hughie feel that vulnerability, but those who can put him into full reverse gear.

In other words, strong guys with a punch probably make Hughie gun shy. If Hughie had planted his feet more against Parker and Pulev, he might very well have been KO'd.

Just my guess.
Nailed it!!
Nice one John. The clear path to beat Huggie is constant pressure and make him feel the power. Povitkin can do this easilly, he is a swarming hard hitter.
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candyslim wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 15:01 Eventually they (VADA/WBC) admitted they couldn't be sure the tiny amount in his body wasn't left over from before the ban. He gets way more hate than he deserves.
Good point. I'll add something else too.

That is, I can't help but wonder if political players -- the US State Department, the CIA, or their EU allies -- were pulling strings behind the scenes to narc on Povetkin. I say this because of the political tension that's existed between Russia and the US & Co. since 2014. That's when the Ukraine conflict broke out, and the US responded by sanctioning Russia and, possibly, started pulling a lot of other tricks to embarrass Putin in front of his own people. Think about it.

Only after 2014 -- in the context of international conflict -- did all the hysteria about PED-abusing Russians come to the surface. As heavy-duty fight fans, we already know that athletes from all countries are doping, so it's weird that Russia was singled out for abusing at this time. Maybe there's link between the way Povetkin was treated and all the other political stuff that's been happening on the international political scene.

Call me a conspiracy freak if you wish, but I can't help but wonder about these "coincidences."
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