Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance

[ironbeard]

Funny how Sky sports have how come out nd said Whyte passes vada before and after the fight.

But they didn’t initially mention he failed UKAD. Getting smart people on Facebook saying it’s all to protect Wilder. Why would UKAD protect wilder? UKAD are corrupt anyway.

Wilder has replaced George Groves, IYKWIM.

[tobyh5]

Funny how Sky sports have how come out nd said Whyte passes vada before and after the fight.

But they didn’t initially mention he failed UKAD. Getting smart people on Facebook saying it’s all to protect Wilder. Why would UKAD protect wilder? UKAD are corrupt anyway.

Passing VADA and failing UKAD is similar to not speeding past one speed camera and speeding passed another. Those highlighting that he passed VADA as proof of his innocence are stupid. Even if he is innocent they are still stupid for using that argument.

That is a fcking great analogy. Spot on.

Passing a VADA test is irrelevant. He p1ssed in a bottle for UKAD. They tested that p1ss. They found D Bol in it. How did it get in there? That is the only thing that matters. The rest is bullshite

[Nondescript]

Is Dean actually Dillians brother?

[tobyh5]

Is Dean actually Dillians brother?

This has already been covered mate. Just adds more weirdness doesn't it?1

[Nondescript]

Is Dean actually Dillians brother?

This has already been covered mate. Just adds more weirdness doesn't it?1

I was just adding to it because id seen people saying he is Dillians half brother.

Weird isn't the word. The whole saga is becoming like something out of the twilight zone.

[gerryd77]

On that same website it states ‘Our CEO Lemar Scott is not only a sparring partner to Dillian, but he is also Dillian's older and "bigger" brother!’

The site (it is a shocking effort though) strap line is also ‘making boxing family business’.

Weirdos

[Boxing Prospect]

i understand that heavyweights dont need to get down to a specific weight, but almost all other boxers have to weigh in at much lower weights than their natural healthy everyday weight.....whats difficult to understand about that?

Maybe the "huh" was because Whyte is in fact a HW.. So he doesn't need to make weight. What's he gonna catch.

Whilst he doesn't NEED to make a weight limit, it might not be to his advantage to come in obese. Help shift a few pounds, be lighter on his toes. He didn't look in great shape did he

[Nondescript]

Maybe the "huh" was because Whyte is in fact a HW.. So he doesn't need to make weight. What's he gonna catch.

Whilst he doesn't NEED to make a weight limit, it might not be to his advantage to come in obese. Help shift a few pounds, be lighter on his toes. He didn't look in great shape did he

Didn't he come in heavier than he's been for a long time?

[MasterG]

VADA completed their final testing of both boxers on July 17. Both came back negative

[tobyh5]

VADA completed their final testing of both boxers on July 17. Both came back negative

Which I think is news we already knew, least we suspected was the case.

We knew he had not failed a VADA test, but sure, they may have been waiting on results from the immediate pre and post fight. Does not have any bearing on the UKAD test imo

[Nondescript]

VADA completed their final testing of both boxers on July 17. Both came back negative

Which I think is news we already knew, least we suspected was the case.

We knew he had not failed a VADA test, but sure, they may have been waiting on results from the immediate pre and post fight. Does not have any bearing on the UKAD test imo

Have you noticed how many people are falling for that propaganda aswell? Both Eddie and Sky sports were very quick to put out how Dillian passed his VADA tests, when anyone with a brain knows it was a UKAD test he failed.

I don't know if Dillian did actually fail or not but the whole cloak and daggers nature of how this has played out and is continuing to play out isn't good.

We're probably not gonna hear any update from UKAD any time soon and the whole thing is gonna be swept under the carpet.

[danconnollyeire]

Yep it'd be useful for media to not even mentioned VADA and UKAD and just say he's failed a test. Looks like he was tested several times by UKAD, would've only had one adverse test. It's not like VADA and UKAD perform the exact same tests at the exact same time, UKAD just happened to be in the right place at the right time for one test, doesn't matter who did the test

[Controversial]

Have you noticed how many people are falling for that propaganda aswell? Both Eddie and Sky sports were very quick to put out how Dillian passed his VADA tests, when anyone with a brain knows it was a UKAD test he failed.

So he passed VADA but failed UKAD but he presented evidence at the hearing on the day of the fight that cleared him to fight. So what happens now then?

[Boxing Prospect]

Whilst he doesn't NEED to make a weight limit, it might not be to his advantage to come in obese. Help shift a few pounds, be lighter on his toes. He didn't look in great shape did he

Didn't he come in heavier than he's been for a long time?

Was heavier against Parker a year ago, but he looked in better shape that fighter if my memory serves

[tobyh5]

It is all throwing smoke up to cloud the issues. As I have already said - they put a bottle in his hand, he dropped his dick in it and took a p1ss, that bottle was sealed and sent to a lab. The lab tested it and found Dbol (according to reports and not denied). I do not care about anything else they have to say, I want that one thing explained.

[JimJim2009]

Brilliant post mate

[Nondescript]

Have you noticed how many people are falling for that propaganda aswell? Both Eddie and Sky sports were very quick to put out how Dillian passed his VADA tests, when anyone with a brain knows it was a UKAD test he failed.

So he passed VADA but failed UKAD but he presented evidence at the hearing on the day of the fight that cleared him to fight. So what happens now then?

Going off the interviews with Eddie, it sounds like the evidence they used to get cleared to fight in the hearing, was the fact that he passed his VADA tests.

So it doesn't sound like UKAD fully trusts their own tests, which is the case, why do they even bother doing them.

[tobyh5]

So he passed VADA but failed UKAD but he presented evidence at the hearing on the day of the fight that cleared him to fight. So what happens now then?

Going off the interviews with Eddie, it sounds like the evidence they used to get cleared to fight in the hearing, was the fact that he passed his VADA tests.

So it doesn't sound like UKAD fully trusts their own tests, which is the case, why do they even bother doing them.

Well the test can only be wrong if it is contaminated. As a B sample is in existence, that will answe that. If it is not contaminated, he is guilty.

The whole discussion is annoying me as it is all quite simple and needs restricting to somple facts. All this VADA crap and being cleared to fight and trying to guess why is clouding the issue. He p1ssed hot - why?

[Controversial]

Going off the interviews with Eddie, it sounds like the evidence they used to get cleared to fight in the hearing, was the fact that he passed his VADA tests.

So it doesn't sound like UKAD fully trusts their own tests, which is the case, why do they even bother doing them.

Well the test can only be wrong if it is contaminated. As a B sample is in existence, that will answe that. If it is not contaminated, he is guilty.

The whole discussion is annoying me as it is all quite simple and needs restricting to somple facts. All this VADA crap and being cleared to fight and trying to guess why is clouding the issue. He p1ssed hot - why?

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

[ewenhay]

Well the test can only be wrong if it is contaminated. As a B sample is in existence, that will answe that. If it is not contaminated, he is guilty.

The whole discussion is annoying me as it is all quite simple and needs restricting to somple facts. All this VADA crap and being cleared to fight and trying to guess why is clouding the issue. He p1ssed hot - why?

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

That's what I've been asking all along but nobody seems to know

[Nondescript]

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

That's what I've been asking all along but nobody seems to know

I think it's pretty much the same things but UKAD is a bit more lenient generally with what they allow outside of competition which is why UKAD were okay with BJS using a nasal decongestant but VADA doesn't allow said Nasal decongestant whether in or out of competition.

[tobyh5]

Well the test can only be wrong if it is contaminated. As a B sample is in existence, that will answe that. If it is not contaminated, he is guilty.

The whole discussion is annoying me as it is all quite simple and needs restricting to somple facts. All this VADA crap and being cleared to fight and trying to guess why is clouding the issue. He p1ssed hot - why?

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

I will admit that my knowledge is rubbish on gear, I have no interest in it and never touched it but I am going with logic and what I have seen written down, overheard at the gym and bodybuilding shows and some google. (so basiclly this is a pile of shite probably)

But it is nothing to do with testing for different things as in this instance it is dbol which is a definite no no by everyone (this part I know!). It is a PED, not a stim.

The difference in tests can be down to many factors - different tests days and times being the obvious and probable reason as drugs have a half life (they half in your system every x hours and then become undetectable).

In the case of Dbol, a small amount can be effective (but less so) and that can start to half life quite quickly.

This would explain 1. why VADA picked nothing up as time lapse let it start to vanish and 2. why only trace amounts found as only a small amount taken and it already vanishing, so really, it is lucky they timed it to get any reading at all.

Another reason is something called "Pulsing", but that is a whole nother long ass post

[Controversial]

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

I will admit that my knowledge is rubbish on gear, I have no interest in it and never touched it but I am going with logic and what I have seen written down, overheard at the gym and bodybuilding shows and some google. (so basiclly this is a pile of shite probably)

But it is nothing to do with testing for different things as in this instance it is dbol which is a definite no no by everyone (this part I know!). It is a PED, not a stim.

The difference in tests can be down to many factors - different tests days and times being the obvious and probable reason as drugs have a half life (they half in your system every x hours and then become undetectable).

In the case of Dbol, a small amount can be effective (but less so) and that can start to half life quite quickly.

This would explain 1. why VADA picked nothing up as time lapse let it start to vanish and 2. why only trace amounts found as only a small amount taken and it already vanishing, so really, it is lucky they timed it to get any reading at all.

Another reason is something called "Pulsing", but that is a whole nother long ass post

So could it be that such a tiny trace was found that it could be argued that it wouldn't have any affect? Kind of like having a breathalyser test and alcohol being in your system but within the legal limit?

Otherwise I can't understand how a banned substance can be found but then he is given the all clear to fight, that makes no sense does it.

[ewenhay]

Does it mean VADA and UKAP test for different things or some things aren't banned by VADA but are by UKAP?

I will admit that my knowledge is rubbish on gear, I have no interest in it and never touched it but I am going with logic and what I have seen written down, overheard at the gym and bodybuilding shows and some google. (so basiclly this is a pile of shite probably)

But it is nothing to do with testing for different things as in this instance it is dbol which is a definite no no by everyone (this part I know!). It is a PED, not a stim.

The difference in tests can be down to many factors - different tests days and times being the obvious and probable reason as drugs have a half life (they half in your system every x hours and then become undetectable).

In the case of Dbol, a small amount can be effective (but less so) and that can start to half life quite quickly.

This would explain 1. why VADA picked nothing up as time lapse let it start to vanish and 2. why only trace amounts found as only a small amount taken and it already vanishing, so really, it is lucky they timed it to get any reading at all.

Another reason is something called "Pulsing", but that is a whole nother long ass post

Do the two bodies have different levels to constitute an adverse finding?

A situation like that could find him passing one test and failing the other one

[tobyh5]

I will admit that my knowledge is rubbish on gear, I have no interest in it and never touched it but I am going with logic and what I have seen written down, overheard at the gym and bodybuilding shows and some google. (so basiclly this is a pile of shite probably)

But it is nothing to do with testing for different things as in this instance it is dbol which is a definite no no by everyone (this part I know!). It is a PED, not a stim.

The difference in tests can be down to many factors - different tests days and times being the obvious and probable reason as drugs have a half life (they half in your system every x hours and then become undetectable).

In the case of Dbol, a small amount can be effective (but less so) and that can start to half life quite quickly.

This would explain 1. why VADA picked nothing up as time lapse let it start to vanish and 2. why only trace amounts found as only a small amount taken and it already vanishing, so really, it is lucky they timed it to get any reading at all.

Another reason is something called "Pulsing", but that is a whole nother long ass post

Do the two bodies have different levels to constitute an adverse finding?

A situation like that could find him passing one test and failing the other one

No idea mate but I’d imagine d Bol is a zero tolerance as it’s synthetic. Body cannot produce it and it’s not in any known supplements so cannot get into system by accident. .