Canelo considering Andrade for September fight

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Canelo considering Andrade for September fight

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Good news! I hope this fight happens. It should be easy to make since they both fight on DAZN. We will finally see what Andrade is made of. I think he can pull off the upset, but its hard to beat Canelo by decision.

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Canelo isn't fighting in September
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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 08:04 Canelo isn't fighting in September
That's right I forgot he said that. This being August already it would need to be later. Regardless I think its a great fight. I'm actually surprised Canelo is considering it. 6'1" very skilled southpaw. Credit to Canelo if he takes it.
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Bandog wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 10:38
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 08:04 Canelo isn't fighting in September
That's right I forgot he said that. This being August already it would need to be later. Regardless I think its a great fight. I'm actually surprised Canelo is considering it. 6'1" very skilled southpaw. Credit to Canelo if he takes it.
It won't be the only thing he takes.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 21:04
Bandog wrote: 03 Aug 2019, 10:38

That's right I forgot he said that. This being August already it would need to be later. Regardless I think its a great fight. I'm actually surprised Canelo is considering it. 6'1" very skilled southpaw. Credit to Canelo if he takes it.
It won't be the only thing he takes.
Are you referring to a belt or tainted beef? Canelo had chances to fight Andrade before but decided against it. After struggling badly with Lara (many thought he lost) who could blame him. Andrade is more skilled, has more power, and is 4 inches taller than Lara. Hopefully we can find out if Andrade can back up his talk.

Like I said, I'll be surprised if Canelo takes the fight with Andrade, even though he is the logical choice.
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Bandog wrote: 04 Aug 2019, 16:37Canelo had chances to fight Andrade before but decided against it. After struggling badly with Lara (many thought he lost) who could blame him. Andrade is more skilled, has more power, and is 4 inches taller than Lara. Hopefully we can find out if Andrade can back up his talk.

Like I said, I'll be surprised if Canelo takes the fight with Andrade, even though he is the logical choice.
From a list of 89 media scorecards, only 33% of them thought that Lara deserved the victory over Canelo.

And in terms of Canelo having chances to face Andrade, when exactly were they? I don't feel that the Mexican "ducked" Demetrius in any way. He always seemed to have bigger fish to fry.

And one final question, what single performance has Andrade delivered inside the ring during his professional career leads you to believe that he’s a superior fighter than the prime version of Erislandy Lara?
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I wouldn't mind if he fought Andrade, but I hope they find someone better. Andrade is perfectly qualified for the shot I guess, he's just thoroughly uninspiring and not entertaining to watch.
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gilgamesh wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 13:48 I wouldn't mind if he fought Andrade, but I hope they find someone better. Andrade is perfectly qualified for the shot I guess, he's just thoroughly uninspiring and not entertaining to watch.
Better or more entertaining? Even though hes boring as shit. It has to be said that Andrade is pretty damn skilled and possesses a lot of speed.
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Nondescript wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 14:43
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 13:48 I wouldn't mind if he fought Andrade, but I hope they find someone better. Andrade is perfectly qualified for the shot I guess, he's just thoroughly uninspiring and not entertaining to watch.
Better or more entertaining? Even though hes boring as poo. It has to be said that Andrade is pretty damn skilled and possesses a lot of speed.
Yeah he's a solid fighter. I ain't denying him that. I just don't particularly care if he gets the big fights or not because he hasn't really done all that much to earn them. He's largely inactive, and when he does fight, he's not that memorable.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 11:56
Bandog wrote: 04 Aug 2019, 16:37Canelo had chances to fight Andrade before but decided against it. After struggling badly with Lara (many thought he lost) who could blame him. Andrade is more skilled, has more power, and is 4 inches taller than Lara. Hopefully we can find out if Andrade can back up his talk.

Like I said, I'll be surprised if Canelo takes the fight with Andrade, even though he is the logical choice.
From a list of 89 media scorecards, only 33% of them thought that Lara deserved the victory over Canelo.

And in terms of Canelo having chances to face Andrade, when exactly were they? I don't feel that the Mexican "ducked" Demetrius in any way. He always seemed to have bigger fish to fry.

And one final question, what single performance has Andrade delivered inside the ring during his professional career leads you to believe that he’s a superior fighter than the prime version of Erislandy Lara?
Just curious since you have the stats, what percent of those cards had Canelo beating Lara. It was a pretty close one I thought.
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Wasn't close. Canelo won clear.
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Callum Smith is the most interesting guy out there for Canelo.
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gilgamesh wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 14:46 Wasn't close. Canelo won clear.
I think Lara did and it was definitely close.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 14:50 Callum Smith is the most interesting guy out there for Canelo.
Smith is way too big.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 11:56
Bandog wrote: 04 Aug 2019, 16:37Canelo had chances to fight Andrade before but decided against it. After struggling badly with Lara (many thought he lost) who could blame him. Andrade is more skilled, has more power, and is 4 inches taller than Lara. Hopefully we can find out if Andrade can back up his talk.

Like I said, I'll be surprised if Canelo takes the fight with Andrade, even though he is the logical choice.
From a list of 89 media scorecards, only 33% of them thought that Lara deserved the victory over Canelo.

And in terms of Canelo having chances to face Andrade, when exactly were they? I don't feel that the Mexican "ducked" Demetrius in any way. He always seemed to have bigger fish to fry.

And one final question, what single performance has Andrade delivered inside the ring during his professional career leads you to believe that he’s a superior fighter than the prime version of Erislandy Lara?
Who people think won with Lara vs Canelo comes down to the style and boxer you like more. Lara made Canelo look like a fool at times. Canelo won it with 99% body work. Laras fault for being on his bike too much. Close fight. I said many, not all, thought Lara won, which is true.

Canelo could have fought Andrade while he had the 154 belt from 2014-2016. He fought Amir Khan during this time ffs. I didn't say he ducked him..just could have fought him. It took public pressure to get him to fight Lara because DLaHoya knew style-wise it was bad. Same deal for Trout. Kirkland and Angulo were perfect stylewise. Andrade would be worse than Lara I think.

Andrade needs a top opponent to bring out his best. His management over the last few years was poor. I hope he gets to prove himself or someone shuts him up.
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Bandog wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 20:29
Enlightened-One wrote: 05 Aug 2019, 11:56And in terms of Canelo having chances to face Andrade, when exactly were they? I don't feel that the Mexican "ducked" Demetrius in any way. He always seemed to have bigger fish to fry.

And one final question, what single performance has Andrade delivered inside the ring during his professional career leads you to believe that he’s a superior fighter than the prime version of Erislandy Lara?
Canelo could have fought Andrade while he had the 154 belt from 2014-2016. He fought Amir Khan during this time ffs. I didn't say he ducked him..just could have fought him. It took public pressure to get him to fight Lara because DLaHoya knew style-wise it was bad. Same deal for Trout. Kirkland and Angulo were perfect stylewise. Andrade would be worse than Lara I think.

Andrade needs a top opponent to bring out his best. His management over the last few years was poor. I hope he gets to prove himself or someone shuts him up.
When Andrade was in his training camp for the Vanes Martirosyan fight, to challenge for the vacant WBO 154lbs title, Canelo fought Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Demetrius then performed one underwhelming defence of his newly-acquired title prior to choosing to remain inactive for fifteen months. He was subsequently stripped of this title due to a combination of his inactivity, coupled with his refusal to accept a career-high $550K purse to face Jermall Charlo (a fight that he'd actually signed-up for that would have also kicked-off a three-fight deal with Showtime, potentially culminating in a title-unification showdown against Canelo).

Meanwhile, immediately after the Floyd Mayweather Jr loss, Canelo fought the likes of Alfredo Angulo, Erislandy Lara, James Kirkland and Miguel Cotto.

I actually believe that it was Andrade that previously declined to face Canelo, due to his refusal to fulfil a three-fight deal with Showtime (after initially agreeing terms with that network and also reneging on a contract he’d signed to face Jermall Charlo). :o

I also flatly refuse to consider the possibility that Canelo was coerced to face Erislandy Lara. I just don’t think it happened… ever! Especially when you consider the calibre of names listed on the Mexican’s resume.

I did previously ask you a question related to you detailing a single performance that Andrade delivered inside the ring during his professional career that lead you to believe that he’s a superior fighter than the prime version of Erislandy Lara?

It is believed that Demetrius Andrade had previously turned down an ESPN2 fight with Erislandy Lara. Why did 'Boo Boo' choose to do this if he was bigger, "more skilled" and also had "more power" than the Cuban?

Let's not forget that Demetrius Andrade had also petitioned the WBO to receive a shot at their middleweight title against Matt Korobov. However, 'Boo Boo' suddenly decided to change his mind and subsequently announced his intention to stay at junior middleweight (in preference to continue engaging in non-title bouts), which made room for Andy Lee to challenge for the vacant championship in his place. Why did 'Boo Boo' choose to do this?

You assume that “Canelo had chances to fight Andrade before but decided against it”, whilst ‘Boo Boo’ was campaigning at 154lbs between 2014 and 2016, but there’s actually far more evidence to suggest that it was the American that scuppered the possibility of that bout.
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Just like I thought, Canelo is dragging his feet on the Andrade fight. A winnable fight for him, but a tough fight. He wants to wait for Kovalev, who is past it. Probably want a 170lb catch weight with hydration clause.

Andrade and Charlo should fight each other. Great fight too.
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