Muttley-Anderson...round by round...please

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 01 Jun 2006, 18:42

kerrminator wrote:Anderson fought a perfect fight(apart from the knockdown of course)

Mutley's power was always a known factor but Kev's corner obviously knew this and worked their plan out accordingly.

I was shouting at Kev (well at the telly anyway lol) because he was fighting like a bum(a slow bum aswell by the way, which is unlike him) in the early rounds because he wasn't throwing his usual trademark body shots but I soon realised that if he was to throw those shots alot he would have exposed his chin to Mutley's hooks and that would probably have been a be a big mistake.

However I was more than impressed with Kev's "long game plan" so to speak( He knew Mutley's stamina limits and used them against him) and its fights like that that make me realise how important fights against Joshua Okine and the likes were to his career. (good planning to Kev's team)

Anderson is 23 years old and has accomplished more than a lot of fighters at this young stage of his career( he is on the right track to a European belt )

PS.

TOLD YA SO HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEE

YO mutley's girl geezakiss lol ;)

What a tool you are, only supporting him cause he is scottish, your man got schooled, any decent opponent he faces again and he will be beaten, your man showed his skills are limited, the only thing he showed really is heart.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:16

There is nothing wrong with supporting your Country men.

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:19

Your just biased you want to grow up..... both men were great tonight both showed great sportsmanship...The fighting was nothing to do with the fight it was idiots from what ever counrty...i hope Kevin goes on to do Britain proud and Scotland and i think Mutley will be a big contender at lightwelter... Anderson v Jennings next??

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Jun 2006, 19:50

Razor wrote:
kerrminator wrote:Anderson fought a perfect fight(apart from the knockdown of course)

Mutley's power was always a known factor but Kev's corner obviously knew this and worked their plan out accordingly.

I was shouting at Kev (well at the telly anyway lol) because he was fighting like a bum(a slow bum aswell by the way, which is unlike him) in the early rounds because he wasn't throwing his usual trademark body shots but I soon realised that if he was to throw those shots alot he would have exposed his chin to Mutley's hooks and that would probably have been a be a big mistake.

However I was more than impressed with Kev's "long game plan" so to speak( He knew Mutley's stamina limits and used them against him) and its fights like that that make me realise how important fights against Joshua Okine and the likes were to his career. (good planning to Kev's team)

Anderson is 23 years old and has accomplished more than a lot of fighters at this young stage of his career( he is on the right track to a European belt )

PS.

TOLD YA SO HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEE

YO mutley's girl geezakiss lol ;)
What a tool you are, only supporting him cause he is scottish, your man got schooled, any decent opponent he faces again and he will be beaten, your man showed his skills are limited, the only thing he showed really is heart.

Some on ESb seem to be the same with the Scotish thing when they go over the top.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 01 Jun 2006, 21:13

Great fight, looking forward to seeing Mutley back in action...

Told you Anderson would win.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 02 Jun 2006, 02:59

I was there, it was a good turn out - Mutley was far superior for the first seven- eight rounds and nearly every hook he landed shook Anderson to his boots

Anderson seemed to get a second wind late on, and Mutley all of a sudden looked to be flagging badly - In the tenth after Mutley was hurt, I thought he woulda been wise to take a knee or hang on, but he kept looking for the equalising haymaker and at the same time was getting tagged more and more - The ropes kept him up more than once...his legs had pretty much gone.

On reflection the stoppage was right, but at the time I thought it was slightly quick

Good fight, but please dont tell me that was Andersons tactics - He didnt have a clue what to do for the first 6-7 rounds. :)

kerrminator · Post by **kerrminator** » 02 Jun 2006, 04:01

When I say Andersons tactics were right I mean he didn't go out in rnd 1 and put his usuall pressure on his opponent. He would have been tagged if he did.

The fight for Kev was far from perfect(my post earlier was written whilst on a high ;)) but his slow approach to the first half of the fight allowing Mutt to wear himself out was spot on and paid off beautifully.

I would not agree that he was being beat in every single round

the first was close although Kev did take 1 good shot(but 1 shot doesn't win a round)

2nd round was oviously Mutt but Kev's chin cannot be put in question now, that dig would have finished alot of fighters off.

most rounds were Mutts but Kev certainly didn't lose them all, he was coming right back into the fight when the KO came.

pm · Post by pm » 02 Jun 2006, 04:11

Can't believe some of the stick Kev's getting. Muttley should of finished him in the 2nd but he didn't take his chance. When it got to round 7 most in the pub were in agreement that Kev would need to stop him to win. Don't think the stoppage was premature either, Muttley was all over the place!

Crowd trouble like that is a disgrace, the typical English poor losers again - World Cup anyone? Anyway, I read there hadn't been boxing in that place (Villa Centre?) for ages due to serious crowd trouble and the first thing that happens when they host a contest is yet more crowd trouble! Well done!!

Great win for Kev, thoroughly chuffed for him! Well done big man! Fife's own champion!!

kerrminator · Post by **kerrminator** » 02 Jun 2006, 04:28

Razor wrote:
kerrminator wrote:Anderson fought a perfect fight(apart from the knockdown of course)

Mutley's power was always a known factor but Kev's corner obviously knew this and worked their plan out accordingly.

I was shouting at Kev (well at the telly anyway lol) because he was fighting like a bum(a slow bum aswell by the way, which is unlike him) in the early rounds because he wasn't throwing his usual trademark body shots but I soon realised that if he was to throw those shots alot he would have exposed his chin to Mutley's hooks and that would probably have been a be a big mistake.

However I was more than impressed with Kev's "long game plan" so to speak( He knew Mutley's stamina limits and used them against him) and its fights like that that make me realise how important fights against Joshua Okine and the likes were to his career. (good planning to Kev's team)

Anderson is 23 years old and has accomplished more than a lot of fighters at this young stage of his career( he is on the right track to a European belt )

PS.

TOLD YA SO HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEE

YO mutley's girl geezakiss lol ;)
What a tool you are, only supporting him cause he is scottish, your man got schooled, any decent opponent he faces again and he will be beaten, your man showed his skills are limited, the only thing he showed really is heart.

I support my country man and you think it makes me a tool?

well I suppose you will be cheering on another nation during the world cup?

no, I thought not.

He was not being schooled imo, he was just very wary of Mutts power due to the cracking hook he took in the 2nd(rightly so)

but he was coming right back into it and started looking liike he could stop Mutt in those later rounds(oh, he did didn't he? I almost forgot) ;)

pm · Post by pm » 02 Jun 2006, 04:36

Did anyone else think that Anderson's knockdown was genuine? Felt he was hard done by there with the ref ruling it a slip! Also, Muttley sent Anderson to the canvas with a right elbow!! What was the ref watching?

kerrminator · Post by **kerrminator** » 02 Jun 2006, 04:45

I thought I saw that elbow but didn't want to make an issue of it incase I was wrong and then accused of being a tool again ;)

When Mutt went down it was certainly a punch from Kev but I can understand why the ref called it a slip because both fighters feet were in a tangle as it landed.

The ref should have been in a better position though.

I was a bit wary when I seen it was 3 english judges and an english ref as this surely cannot be fair but Kev didn't allow the decision to be left in their hands

well Done Kev and Mutt for a cracking domestic dust up

Top Dog · Post by **Top Dog** » 02 Jun 2006, 05:45

Well, well, can I say I told you so? Ando didn't box well, I agree, seen him box much better than that. But turn your argument on it's head, Muttley boxed out of his skin tonight and Kev boxed poor, but who won? One thing I'll say for Muttley though, he's a lot better than I thought he was. It'll do Kev good to get put on his arse anyway, it's his first time pro or amateur, once he tightens up his defence no-one will beat him in Britain. I don't think there would be too many guys who would get up from that left hook of Muttleys, very good fighters, just not as good as Ando

I await your reply DG

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 02 Jun 2006, 06:04

kerrminator wrote:When I say Andersons tactics were right I mean he didn't go out in rnd 1 and put his usuall pressure on his opponent. He would have been tagged if he did.

The fight for Kev was far from perfect(my post earlier was written whilst on a high ;)) but his slow approach to the first half of the fight allowing Mutt to wear himself out was spot on and paid off beautifully.

This is absolute nonsense! You think Anderson's tactics were to get nailed repeatedly wearing Mutley out? He didn't have a clue what he was doing for most of the first half of the fight it was desperation stakes for him.

Not taking anything away from Anderson its a great win but the notion that he was sticking to some sort of gameplan and not just desperately hanging in there is a ridiculous one.

Good luck to Mutley at 140, I'd like to see Anderson v Jennings next. Anderson really needs to work on his defence though it was attrocious last night. If he tightens that up I think he beats Jennings but if he fights like he did last night I think he'll get beaten.

kerrminator · Post by **kerrminator** » 02 Jun 2006, 06:37

nickd wrote:
kerrminator wrote:When I say Andersons tactics were right I mean he didn't go out in rnd 1 and put his usuall pressure on his opponent. He would have been tagged if he did.

The fight for Kev was far from perfect(my post earlier was written whilst on a high ;)) but his slow approach to the first half of the fight allowing Mutt to wear himself out was spot on and paid off beautifully.
This is absolute nonsense! You think Anderson's tactics were to get nailed repeatedly wearing Mutley out? He didn't have a clue what he was doing for most of the first half of the fight it was desperation stakes for him.

Not taking anything away from Anderson its a great win but the notion that he was sticking to some sort of gameplan and not just desperately hanging in there is a ridiculous one.

Good luck to Mutley at 140, I'd like to see Anderson v Jennings next. Anderson really needs to work on his defence though it was attrocious last night. If he tightens that up I think he beats Jennings but if he fights like he did last night I think he'll get beaten.

My point was he didn't come out all guns blazing in the 1st like he usually does, the fact he was put down in the 2nd round didn't change that

He was trying to be defensive and still got himself tagged but even if he was not knocked down he would have stuck to that game plaN

The very fact mutt was so powerful was why he stayed on the back foot,if he had went to war with mutt like he has done with so many opponents in the past he could well have been KO'd so in actuall fact the not going toe to toe was his gameplan and it worked a treat.

He knew mutt couldn't keep that pace for 12 rounds and after rnd 4 or so that left hook was not hurting him nearly as much as it did early on so I think you will find Kev did exactly what he had to to get the win ......yes? no?

It was a great fight and the man with the long fight plan won, simple as that

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 02 Jun 2006, 06:49

I was ringside last night (for BBN), and let me first say, what a fantastic fight it was last night. It had it all.

Kevin's bravery should be saluted, the kid showed the heart of a warrior. The m.c. John Mcdonnel said to me that if you cut Anderson in half, it would say no surrender.

How right he is.

Mutley was spent by the ninth, plain and simple. Ronnie Wood (trainer of Darren McDermott) said that he could see that Mutt was blowing by the sixth (the press were sitting near to 'Ando's' corner.

Anderson got his second win around the 9th, and Mutt was more exhausted than hurt.

The knockdown that Anderson got up from in the second was amazing, landing flat on his shoulder blades, most would have took the full count.

Interesting to note that between rounds 7 and 8, Tommy Gilmour talked to the corner, and advised them to pull Kev out.

Great fight.

My report should be up today, im just finishing the undercard.

Tom Podmore.
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pm · Post by pm » 02 Jun 2006, 06:58

Thats interesting re Gilmours comments. The man really is A-grade bird seed.

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 02 Jun 2006, 07:12

I don't think it was second wind Anderson got in the 9th but it was his legs . They hadn't recovered from the knockdown in the second until then but once they did his power was back .

and after 9 rounds of shots with nothing on them Muttley certainly wasn't expecting Anderson to be able to hurt him after that . But with Anderson having recovered and Muttley tiring things swung in Anderson's favour and that beautiful left hand would have put most domestic Welterweights(never mind that Muttley is really a light-welter) out cold .

Two fighters with huge heart , good chins and good power made for a great fight . Magee v Froch was a very good fight , Power v Ward was a good fight , Anderson v Muttley was a very good fight and all in the space of less than a week . Seems Sky have got their act together .

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 02 Jun 2006, 07:59

A fantastic match, as it was always going to be in my eyes, a credit to both fighters.

The welter division is deep, I hope to see both in plenty of exciting future fights!

Hobson v Keaton was a smasher on ITV too wasn't it? Free swinging wild shoot outs like that one are always welcome!!

Hobson was sloppy throwing the right uppercut to get caught bythat right hand but it made for a great spectacle!

jimcook · Post by **jimcook** » 02 Jun 2006, 08:27

when all is said and done concerning this fight, i would just like to point out that a championship fight is over twelve rounds.saw the same thing in the fight with meager and stewart...stewart boxed brilliantly and landed big shots and was clearly winning the fight.like muttley he was also stopped when he should have taken a knee to compose himself.maybe , in both cases this was where a bit more experience would have helped . anyway,boxing well for the majority of the fight is not good enough,if you go and get yourself stopped. fighters can learn a lot from these hard lessons, nigel benn being a good example.and lets face it fighters can learn more from a single defeat than 10 wins against less testing opponents. credit to both fighters...they both gave their all,and deserved better from the fans. these arseholes who cause trouble at fights should be put in the ring with real fighters to teach them a bit of respect.

emma · Post by **emma** » 02 Jun 2006, 08:47

im f***ing gutted muttley lost

WHATS NEXT FOR MUTT THEN?

b_hammersley · Post by **b_hammersley** » 02 Jun 2006, 08:47

Tom Pod. I was in Kevs corner last night and would just like to say, Tommy Gilmour didn't come over advising his corner to pull Kev out, that's total cack, believe me. I wouldn't have let that happen cause I could see Muttley was running out of steam and Kev was coming through the shots and hurting Muttley. I thought Kev was behind as well but not by 5 rounds, no chance, but I told Benny King (the other cornerman) that Kev would catch him shortly and take him out, he was getting stronger later on whilst Lee was pretty spent.
I would have to say though that Young Muttley is a totally nice guy, spoke to him at length after the fight and he said himself that Kev was hurting him and that Kev was too strong in the end. The left hook Muttley landed was a f*ckin peach and I don't think any other welterwight would take that and bouce back up. Anderson will be a lot better for that fight, trust me. Can see Muttley dropping to l/welter and clearing up, don't think there is many that would stand up to him. Well done KEV.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 02 Jun 2006, 08:51

The Muttster could always get a rematch surely?

pm · Post by pm » 02 Jun 2006, 09:00

Great post hammersley!!

Whats next for Kev then? I know everyone talks of Jennings or a re-match but is he still due to fight Colin McNeil now? Be good if we could get that one in Scotland - was gutted it was down south last night which meant I couldn't make it due to work!!

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 02 Jun 2006, 09:08

Tom Pod. I was in Kevs corner last night and would just like to say, Tommy Gilmour didn't come over advising his corner to pull Kev out, that's total cack, believe me. I wouldn't have let that happen cause I could see Muttley was running out of steam and Kev was coming through the shots and hurting Muttley. I thought Kev was behind as well but not by 5 rounds, no chance, but I told Benny King (the other cornerman) that Kev would catch him shortly and take him out, he was getting stronger later on whilst Lee was pretty spent.
I would have to say though that Young Muttley is a totally nice guy, spoke to him at length after the fight and he said himself that Kev was hurting him and that Kev was too strong in the end. The left hook Muttley landed was a f*ckin peach and I don't think any other welterwight would take that and bouce back up. Anderson will be a lot better for that fight, trust me. Can see Muttley dropping to l/welter and clearing up, don't think there is many that would stand up to him. Well done KEV

Fair enough mate.

It was just what i was told from another member of the press section. Although i did see Tommy go over to the corner between 7 and 8 (i think it was then anyway)

Which one were you, the one with the sleaveless hoodie on??

No excuse for the violence however.

Great heart from Kev.

Tom Podmore.[/code]

b_hammersley · Post by **b_hammersley** » 02 Jun 2006, 09:09

I'm not sure what's next for Kev to be honest, that's up to Tommy Gilmour, he's the man who does the deals, we just get the Kev ready to fight, plain and simple. I hear people saying he "got schooled" etc, but heh Muttley aint no mug, he was a lot better than I thought, take my hat off to him cause he's one tough guy. But he didn't get schooled in my book. One of the best left hooks in the business, great win for Kev. I actually said to Kev in the ninth that I thought we were behind by a couple but he'd have to stop him cause some of the tight rounds would probably go to Muttley cause all the judges were english and in front of a huge english crowd. Knew the wee man would catch him, and trust me Kev can bang, lets face it Muttley hadn't been stopped before. Kev will be a lot better for that win. I don't fret him going in against any of the british guys cause I don't believe any are as good as Muttley was, and he beat him.