Boxing moves to the Cage?

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV
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Boxing moves to the Cage?

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Following McGregor v Mayweather something about this resonates as a good business proposition?

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Can't fail fast enough for me. I prefer everything in a ring. Including MMA.
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Same here... The cages often just provides a wall for fatigued fighters to mutually take a break and halt the action.
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I was thinking more of the concept of an established league and transfer of fighters from other combat sports... :box:

Possibly running the bouts on MMA shows?
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Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 14:28 I was thinking more of the concept of an established league and transfer of fighters from other combat sports... :box:

Possibly running the bouts on MMA shows?
Thanks for the heads-up amigo but the website they mention in the YouTube video looks like a lot of unfulfilled hype.

http://www.icbleague.com/

This related website claims ICB League was going to start airing their fights way back in 2016 on CBS Sports Network and that was over 3 years ago:

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/09 ... his-month/
04/09/2016
The International Championship Boxing League (ICBL) is set to commence operations this month. The ICBL is the world’s first competitive league for boxing. In this unique multi-weight-class league structure, boxers from around the world must “fight to win” in order to earn the league title.

Over the next six months, fighters from select weight classes will be selected for the ICBL, based on criteria including career record, impressive performance in an ICBL Open Event, and fan demand. “Fans have a voice at the ICBL and the league’s structure gives promoters and managers an alternative for their athletes,”

2016 ICBL Open Bouts will be broadcast on PPV, CBS Sports Network, and foreign broadcast networks. Event highlights, fighter interviews and other behind-the-scenes content will be posted online at www.icbleague.com.
http://www.icbleague.com/events.html
COMING SOON.
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Point taken but the website was built in 2018 and the YouTube video first posted in March of this year so maybe there's some movement now?
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I can't stand 'cage fighting' or whatever it's called. Boxing is a noble art, the sweet science, as practiced by humans since at least the time of the Minoan and Babylonian civilisations. Cage fighting looks like a row outside a kebab shop in Basingstoke.
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MMA requires a cage because the ring ropes interfere with the grappling elements of the sport. Boxing in a cage would be nothing more than a gimmick. The cage would hamper visibility and serve no useful purpose.
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jujigatame wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 09:46 MMA requires a cage because the ring ropes interfere with the grappling elements of the sport. Boxing in a cage would be nothing more than a gimmick. The cage would hamper visibility and serve no useful purpose.
See Pride FC

Though if you said the ref's having to do that awkward stop the action, and scoot 'em to the center of the ring thing ruined the action for you I certainly get it, but I still prefer it in a ring.

You see everything better in a ring.

Plus Pride was just more violent.
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RichieKnightmare wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 09:33 I can't stand 'cage fighting' or whatever it's called. Boxing is a noble art, the sweet science, as practiced by humans since at least the time of the Minoan and Babylonian civilisations. Cage fighting looks like a row outside a kebab shop in Basingstoke.
Spoken by someone who has watched eff all MMA.

for your in information boxing in ancient Greek games involved throws, grappling, holds, and also was incredibly brutal, it had little or no resemblance to boxing as we know it.

As for sumeria, nobody knows anything about that as the only evidence for 'boxing' in sumeria is from plaster relief art.

The first mention of formalised boxing rules is from the olympiad of 688bc
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gilgamesh wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 13:38 Can't fail fast enough for me. I prefer everything in a ring. Including MMA.
I don't care for the stopping and restarting when an opponent is through the ropes. Which happens quite a bit with mma in a roped ring. Plus we wouldn't have the treat of watching Pettis land that ninja kick off the cage years ago.
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It won’t move to the cage. There’s no reason for it.
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Noxy wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 13:00 It won’t move to the cage. There’s no reason for it.
The reason for moving to the cage would be to capitalise on the huge following that the UFC and the like have managed to build up.

A boxing league will never flourish under the multiple boxing organisations. Maybe, just maybe a fresh start could?

I'll stand corrected but don't all MMA fighters actually try to win, that a loss isn't the end of the road?
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i heard some casual saying that boxing would be more entertaining in mma gloves :doh:
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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 12:47
gilgamesh wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 13:38 Can't fail fast enough for me. I prefer everything in a ring. Including MMA.
I don't care for the stopping and restarting when an opponent is through the ropes. Which happens quite a bit with mma in a roped ring. Plus we wouldn't have the treat of watching Pettis land that ninja kick off the cage years ago.
Agreed, pride had that wrong. Soccer kicks they had right!
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While up front visibility for either is awful compared to tv, the cage has never been harder to see through than ropes for me.
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dagilechia wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:50 i heard some casual saying that boxing would be more entertaining in mma gloves :doh:
Maybe. It would certainly change the dynamics.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:57
dagilechia wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:50 i heard some casual saying that boxing would be more entertaining in mma gloves :doh:
Maybe. It would certainly change the dynamics.
some fights would end in a few seconds, in the first exchange, in other fights they would barely throw any punches, just hunt for one punch ko... generally,the luck would start to play more important role than it does not - it would be the end of the ''x-0 records era''
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Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:46
Noxy wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 13:00 It won’t move to the cage. There’s no reason for it.
The reason for moving to the cage would be to capitalise on the huge following that the UFC and the like have managed to build up.

A boxing league will never flourish under the multiple boxing organisations. Maybe, just maybe a fresh start could?

I'll stand corrected but don't all MMA fighters actually try to win, that a loss isn't the end of the road?
That’s not a reason mate. MMA and boxing are two different disciplines, like tennis and badminton. I don’t understand why people conflate the two. I wouldn’t watch MMA if you paid me, boxing on the other hand :bag:
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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:57
dagilechia wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 14:50 i heard some casual saying that boxing would be more entertaining in mma gloves :doh:
Maybe. It would certainly change the dynamics.
It's bare knuckle
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... and to bars.

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That looks more like sumo :lol:
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Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: 27 Aug 2019, 13:38 Following McGregor v Mayweather something about this resonates as a good business proposition?

It’s a “No” from me
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 10:58
jujigatame wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 09:46 MMA requires a cage because the ring ropes interfere with the grappling elements of the sport. Boxing in a cage would be nothing more than a gimmick. The cage would hamper visibility and serve no useful purpose.
See Pride FC

Though if you said the ref's having to do that awkward stop the action, and scoot 'em to the center of the ring thing ruined the action for you I certainly get it, but I still prefer it in a ring.

You see everything better in a ring.

Plus Pride was just more violent.
I watched plenty of PFC back in the day but I always hated the ring. It is just not a proper venue for a combat sport with grappling involved. The ropes interfered with the fights constantly.

And I think the violence was more down to the fact that kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent were legal, not anything having to do with the ring.
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