BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Povetkin vs Hughie Fury

[dagilechia]

Current ranking:

1. Tyson Fury - 28(20) 0 1 - next fight: 14.09.2019 vs Otto Wallin - 20(13) 0 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #46)

2. Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

4. Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - (#3)

5. Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 26.10.2019 vs Dereck Chisora - 31(22) 9(3) 0 - (#12)

10. Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Dereck Chisora - 31(22) 9(3) 0 - next fight: 26.10.2019 vs Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - (#9)

13. Filip Hrgović - 9(7) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by Alexander Povetkin's UD 12 win over Hughie Fury?

my vote: Povetkin to #5, Hughie remains unranked.

[tiny_acres]

Povetkin #5
Hughie unranked

[oogiebe]

I'm usually against a fighter moving down after a win, but Pov looked every year his age. Despite the scores, it was a close fight against a crap fighter like Hughie. I can't see Pov above number 9 in the rankings.

Pov to number 9.

[DrDuke]

No change. Whyte is on the longer winning streak and his last win was bigger, than Povetkin's one, so Povetkin is still following Whyte in the rankings.

[joshj909]

No change

[TempleSlave]

No change!

[Lennox]

No change. Whyte is on the longer winning streak and his last win was bigger, than Povetkin's one, so Povetkin is still following Whyte in the rankings.

+1

[greg]

no change for NOW

although I'm having second thoughts as to how good he is compared to the next 3 boxers below him..

[Pukka Cheese]

No change.

Really need to find someone to knock Breazeale off the list though. Think Hughie would actually beat him

[ironbeard]

I'm usually against a fighter moving down after a win, but Pov looked every year his age. Despite the scores, it was a close fight against a crap fighter like Hughie. I can't see Pov above number 9 in the rankings.

Pov to number 9.

But he just beat “one of the top five in the world!”

No change.

[dagilechia]

Let's not forget that he defeated Hughie much wider than Parker and wider than/as wide as Pulev.

[oogiebe]

I'm usually against a fighter moving down after a win, but Pov looked every year his age. Despite the scores, it was a close fight against a crap fighter like Hughie. I can't see Pov above number 9 in the rankings.

Pov to number 9.

But he just beat “one of the top five in the world!”

No change.

Oh yeah, I forgot!

[margaret thatcher]

No change

I did think Pov looked not to have the snap snap or speed in his shots as before, but he still won clearly and I think better than Parker did, and without getting hurt like Pulev did.

[morm]

still same # 6

[Belanio]

my vote: Povetkin remains #6, Hughie remains unranked.

[Deleted_Scenes]

no change for NOW

although I'm having second thoughts as to how good he is compared to the next 3 boxers below him..

Hughie is a spoiler. The top fighters all beat him but nobody looks great against him. Povetkin still did better than Parker and Pulev did against the same opponent, and Ortiz has looked awful lately. No reason to drop Pov down, until somebody else shows us something more.

No change.

[KiwiRider]

no change for NOW

although I'm having second thoughts as to how good he is compared to the next 3 boxers below him..

Wilder likely beats granddad Ortiz.
Pulev is almost as old as Povitkin, maybe more shot.

[margaret thatcher]

I think Pov arguably did better than Parker and Pulev did against Hughie

Imo Parker did the worst. Not landing even a halfway decent shot and merely wwinning because Hughie did nothing.

Pulev offensively seemed to unsettle Hughie more than the other two did, and he actually managed to back him into corners and shut down the movment a good deal, but he also got hurt by a right hand and looked shaky himself.

Povetkin was all around the most controlled I thought. He clearly won and some people here definitely had it too generous to Hughie. That said I do think he showed some decline,,,it wasnt just from Hughie being negative. His shots did not unload with the same speed or heat as they once did. I get the impression that in a tough contest a guy like Whyte would eventually grind him down.

I think his current ranking is still appropriate though.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[oogiebe]

Peter Fury said that? gee...

[Contendeh]

No change.

[KiwiRider]

Peter Fury said that? gee...

Told ya he could spin something positive from it

[ironbeard]

I think Pov arguably did better than Parker and Pulev did against Hughie

Imo Parker did the worst. Not landing even a halfway decent shot and merely wwinning because Hughie did nothing.

Pulev offensively seemed to unsettle Hughie more than the other two did, and he actually managed to back him into corners and shut down the movment a good deal, but he also got hurt by a right hand and looked shaky himself.

Povetkin was all around the most controlled I thought. He clearly won and some people here definitely had it too generous to Hughie. That said I do think he showed some decline,,,it wasnt just from Hughie being negative. His shots did not unload with the same speed or heat as they once did. I get the impression that in a tough contest a guy like Whyte would eventually grind him down.

I think his current ranking is still appropriate though.

I agree.

I was very critical of Povetkin during the first half of the fight. But, sum total is that the Russian out worked Hughie. I may think that Povetkin has slowed but he won that fight clearly.

If I was Team Povetkin I would fully examine all options/equations. If the sum comes up Joyce, I would be on it like stink.

[oogiebe]

Peter Fury said that? gee...

Told ya he could spin something positive from it

Yeah you did! And he did.

[dagilechia]

Bonus - TOP 15 fighters and their top 5 wins (according to BoxRec ratings):

Tyson Fury - 28(20) 0 1
1. Wladimir Klitschko - 64(53) 3(3) 0 - 1453 points
2. Dereck Chisora - 20(13) 4(1) 0 - 309,9 points
3. Steve Cunningham - 25(12) 5(0) 0 - 237,8 points
4. Dereck Chisora - 14(9) 0 0 - 206,9 points
5. Christian Hammer - 17(10) 3(2) 0 - 200,3 points
Combined record: 140(97) 15(6) 0 Combined points: 2407,9
Average record: 28(19) 3(1) 0 Average points: 481,58

Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1
1. Luis Ortiz - 28(24) 0 0 - 418,5 points
2. Bermane Stiverne - 24(21) 1(1) 1 - 318,6 points
3. Artur Szpilka - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - 196,9 points
4. Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 1(1) 0 - 192,9 points
5. Audley Harrison - 31(23) 6(3) 0 - 153,1 points
Combined record: 123(101) 9(6) 1 Combined points: 1280
Average record: 25(20) 2(1) 0 Average points: 256

Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0
1. Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 0 0 - 1179 points
2. Alexander Dimitrenko - 41(26) 4(3) 0 - 78,03 points
3. Tor Hamer - 21(14) 2(1) 0 - 77,77 points
4. Franklin Lawrence - 21(16) 2(1) 2 - 48,49 points
5. Siarhei Liakhovich - 26(16) 6(5) 0 - 35,46 points
Combined record: 131(93) 14(10) 2 Combined points: 1418,75
Average record: 26(19) 3(2) 0 Average points: 283,75

Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0
1. Wladimir Klitschko - 64(53) 4(3) 0 - 928,5 points
2. Alexander Povetkin - 34(24) 1(0) 0 - 590,8 points
3. Joseph Parker - 24(18) 0 0 - 297,7 points
4. Charles Martin - 23(21) 0 1 - 292,8 points
5. Eric Molina - 25(19) 3(3) 0 - 182,6 points
Combined record: 170(135) 8(6) 1 Combined points: 2292,4
Average record: 34(27) 2(1) 0 Average points: 458,48

Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0
1. Joseph Parker - 24(18) 1(0) 0 - 266,8 points
2. Dereck Chisora - 26(18) 6(2) 0 - 236,9 points
3. Dereck Chisora - 29(21) 8(2) 0 - 156,9 points
4. Lucas Browne - 25(22) 0 0 - 144,8 points
5. Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 0 0 - 139,8 points
Combined record: 130(97) 15(4) 0 Combined points: 945,2
Average record: 26(19) 3(1) 0 Average points: 189,04

Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0
1. Ruslan Chagaev - 27(17) 1(1) 1 - 317,8 points
2. Marco Huck - 34(25) 1(1) 0 - 304 points
3. Carlos Takam - 30(23) 1(0) 1 - 302,7 points
4. Chris Byrd - 40(21) 3(2) 1 - 241,7 points
5. Eddie Chambers - 30(16) 0 0 - 238,1 points
Combined record: 161(102) 6(4) 3 Combined points: 1404,3
Average record: 32(20) 1(1) 1 Average points: 280,86

Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0
1. Malik Scott - 38(13) 2(2) 1 - 232,8 points
2. Tony Thompson - 40(27) 6(2) 0 - 188,1 points
3. Christian Hammer - 24(14) 5(3) 0 - 185,6 points
4. Bryant Jennings - 19(10) 1(0) 0 - 165,9 points
5. Matías Ariel Vidondo - 20(18) 1(1) 1 - 137,4 points
Combined record: 141(82) 15(8) 2 Combined points: 909,8
Average record: 28(16) 3(2) 0 Average points: 181,96

Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0
1. Tony Thompson - 38(26) 3(2) 0 - 372,4 points
2. Alexander Dimitrenko - 32(21) 1(0) 0 - 284,5 points
3. Dereck Chisora - 25(17) 5(2) 0 - 203,8 points
4. Dominick Guinn - 33(22) 6(0) 1 - 140,3 points
5. Hughie Fury - 21(11) 1(0) 0 - 118,7 points
Combined record: 149(97) 16(4) 1 Combined points: 1119,7
Average record: 30(19) 3(1) 0 Average points: 223,94

Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0
1. Carlos Takam - 33(25) 2(1) 1 - 200,9 points
2. Andy Ruiz Jr - 29(19) 0 0 - 123,3 points
3. Kali Meehan - 42(32) 5(3) 0 - 114,1 points
4. Brian Minto - 39(25) 7(3) 0 - 81,33 points
5. Alexander Dimitrenko - 38(24) 2(1) 0 - 78,53 points
Combined record: 181(125) 16(8) 1 Combined points: 598,16
Average record: 36(25) 3(2) 0 Average points: 119,632

Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0
1. Bryant Jennings - 24(14) 2(1) 0 - 154,5 points
2. Jeremy Bates - 26(22) 17(12) 1 - 17,19 points
3. Shawn Cox - 17(16) 4(3) 0 - 10,37 points
4. Herve Hubeaux - 29(14) 2(0) 0 - 8,422 points
5. Carl Davis Drumond - 31(25) 4(2) 0 - 4,334 points
Combined record: 127(91) 29(18) 1 Combined points: 194,816
Average record: 25(18) 6(4) 0 Average points: 38,9632

Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0
1. Artur Szpilka - 20(15) 2(2) 0 - 159,8 points
2. Charles Martin - 25(23) 1(1) 1 - 129,7 points
3. Gerald Washington - 19(12) 2(1) 1 - 74,41 points
4. Chris Arreola - 38(33) 5(3) 1 - 50,51 points
5. Joshua Tufte - 19(9) 1(0) 0 - 35,29 points
Combined record: 121(92) 11(7) 2 Combined points: 449,71
Average record: 24(18) 2(1) 0 Average points: 89,942

Dereck Chisora - 31(22) 9(3) 0
1. Sam Sexton - 13(6) 1(1) 0 - 212,5 points
2. Carlos Takam - 35(27) 4(2) 1 - 142,2 points
3. Malik Scott - 35(12) 0 1 - 102 points
4. Artur Szpilka - 22(15) 3(3) 0 - 94,96 points
5. Edmund Gerber - 23(14) 1(0) 0 - 92,91 points
Combined record: 128(74) 9(6) 2 Combined points: 644,57
Average record: 26(15) 2(1) 0 Average points: 128,914

Filip Hrgović - 9(7) 0 0
1. Amir Mansour - 23(16) 2(1) 1 - 58,77 points
2. Mario Heredia - 16(13) 6(5) 1 - 39,7 points
3. Sean Turner - 12(8) 1(0) 0 - 35,38 points
4. Tom Little - 10(3) 4(1) 0 - 17,39 points
5. Kevin Johnson - 33(17) 11(2) 1 - 15,97 points
Combined record: 94(57) 24(9) 3 Combined points: 167,21
Average record: 19(11) 5(2) 1 Average points: 33,442

Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0
1. Dereck Chisora - 27(19) 7(2) 0 - 145,7 points
2. Andriy Rudenko - 32(20) 3(0) 0 - 26,13 points
3. Gbenga Oluokun - 18(11) 9(4) 0 - 25,89 points
4. Christian Lewandowski - 9(9) 0 0 - 9,502 points
5. Herve Hubeaux - 26(12) 1(0) 0 - 8,141 points
Combined record: 112(71) 20(6) 3 Combined points: 215,363
Average record: 22(14) 4(1) 0 Average points: 43,0726

Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 2(2) 0
1. Eric Molina - 26(19) 4(4) 0 - 140,6 points
2. Amir Mansour - 22(16) 1(0) 1 - 99,35 points
3. Fred Kassi - 18(10) 3(1) 1 - 41,39 points
4. Nagy Aguilera - 19(13) 7(2) 0 - 40,02 points
5. Carlos Negron - 20(16) 1(1) 0 - 37,17 points
Combined record: 105(74) 16(8) 2 Combined points: 358,53
Average record: 21(15) 3(2) 0 Average points: 71,706

Final standings:

1. Tyson Fury - 2407,9
2. Anthony Joshua - 2292,4
3. Andy Ruiz Jr - 1418,75
4. Alexander Povetkin - 1404,3
5. Deontay Wilder - 1280
6. Kubrat Pulev - 1119,7
7. Dillian Whyte - 945,2
8. Luis Ortiz - 909,8
9. Dereck Chisora - 644,57
10. Joseph Parker - 598,16
11. Adam Kownacki - 449,71
12. Dominic Breazeale - 358,53
13. Agit Kabayel - 215,363
14. Óscar Rivas - 194,816
15. Filip Hrgović - 167,21