Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

[oogiebe]

Andy couldn't even stop the corpse of Sergey Liakhovich, he has been very inconsistent himself. I am really looking forward to it because I'm not sure what happens. Can see a repeat or AJ winning pretty much every round and people remembering that, oh ya, Ruiz hadn't looked so good in other fights.

AJ pretty much winning every round? Um...no.

[margaret thatcher]

Could easily see him winning a wide decision at range. Ruiz himself has not really been a consistent fighter and the same guy may not show up. AJ was up 2-0 on all the cards before he got wild going for the kill.

[oogiebe]

Could easily see him winning a wide decision at range. Ruiz himself has not really been a consistent fighter and the same guy may not show up. AJ was up 2-0 on all the cards before he got wild going for the kill.

Then AJ lost round 3 10-8. 4 was Ruiz and 5/6 were uneventful and could've gone either way. Had the fight continued, Ruiz would've won 7 10-7.

I still believe that Ruiz under Robles is hitting his stride. AJ isn't as quick of hand and foot as Ruiz and it will be very tough for Joshua to manage the distance. I expect a repeat. Unless AJ manages to catch and stop Andy. The more I think about it, the more I'm intrigued by this fight.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, AJ got wild going for the kill and got caught and hurt and I don't think ever recovered. Ruiz in general had not at all been that impressive before this or shown any more power than guys who AJ already beat, so I'm not totally convinced on him consistently getting it down at this level. I think with a measured approach and caution if he hurts Ruiz that AJ has a good chance to turn the tables and win widely.

Does Ruiz batter Joe Parker in a rematch? Is he a genuine elite HW levels above the likes of Whyte, Pov, etc.

[oogiebe]

Ya, AJ got wild going for the kill and got caught and hurt and I don't think ever recovered. Ruiz in general had not at all been that impressive before this or shown any more power than guys who AJ already beat, so I'm not totally convinced on him consistently getting it down at this level. I think with a measured approach and caution if he hurts Ruiz that AJ has a good chance to turn the tables and win widely.

Does Ruiz batter Joe Parker in a rematch? Is he a genuine elite HW levels above the likes of Whyte, Pov, etc.

Time will tell. For both of these fighters.

[overhand_right]

Ruiz is one of those guys who boxes to the level of his opponent. He looks poor versus poor opponents yet looked good against Parker and Joshua. From the first bell Ruiz was stalking AJ and beating him to the punch. It happened several times. Joshua was visibly uncomfortable and seemed a bit panic stricken in the corner in his dialogue with McCracken. It was Ruiz who got sloppy in the third rather than AJ being brilliant. I think Ruiz has a deeper knowledge of boxing than does Joshua, and it is more easy for him to make the adjustment and not get hit full wallop like he did, than it is for Joshua to adjust to everything that Ruiz can do. Joshua needs to either invent a totally new style, or somehow magically develop the ability to outwit the sharper-witted Ruiz - or just hope to land the big punch. I don't see AJ coming out of this at all well.

[margaret thatcher]

He didn't look that good vs Parker, was a close fight but a legitimate loss vs a guy who won maybe 2-3 rounds vs AJ.

[overhand_right]

I thought he did look good vs Parker. He impressed me sufficiently to change my view of the AJ fight and I wondered whether Joshua could even take the punches Parker did. He couldn't.

Why it matters that Parker then went on to lose to AJ I do not know. That didn't help AJ much in New York.

[margaret thatcher]

I think he may've punched above a level that he can deliver consistently. He's looked not too impressive in most fights and one of the cases you mention is him losing to Joey, who himself is not a top of the line fighter as shown. We'll see if for a change he can give two good performances in a row. People go on about AJ's mentality and approach and etc, but questions need to be asked about Ruiz's too given his history.

There are enough variables for me to have far more doubt than I'd usually have of a repeat when the first fight has gone like that and I'm not convinced Ruiz will last as much better than a second tier HW. But even if that's true he still could for some reason have AJ's number.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[overhand_right]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

[oogiebe]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

"Gettin' Rowdy with the Saudi."

[overhand_right]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

"Gettin' Rowdy with the Saudi."

'Trial & Error With the World's Number 1 Exporter of Terror'

[Ruthless-RKO]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

"The Rumble in Riyadh"

"Straight rights, no human rights"

"The Sell Out in Saudi"

"Mania in Arabia"

"The Desert Dust-Up / Dust-up in The Desert"

Pick one. One of them are better than Clash on the Dunes.

[margaret thatcher]

Throwing Hands in the Sands

[Nightmare Roy]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

Somebody’s head has got to go!

[overhand_right]

'Clash on the Dunes' is such a lame title. I would have called it 'The Stoning in the Gloaming, or 'Mullah Probe'

Somebody’s head has got to go!

[danconnollyeire]

Could easily see him winning a wide decision at range. Ruiz himself has not really been a consistent fighter and the same guy may not show up. AJ was up 2-0 on all the cards before he got wild going for the kill.

Nonsense even before the AJ knockdown Ruiz was boxing AJs head off, jabbing to the body, parrying, smart combos, his fundamentals are great. AJs aren’t

[ThereByTheGrace]

This is an interesting rematch. I think aj might get through it this time. He was on top and knocked him down. Then dived in like an idiot and got caught.

I think he will be more careful this time and knock him out at distance

[Ruthless-RKO]

This is an interesting rematch. I think aj might get through it this time. He was on top and knocked him down. Then dived in like an idiot and got caught.

I think he will be more careful this time and knock him out at distance

AJ swill likely Box how he did against Parker. Use the jab at all times, try keep Ruiz at a distance. Textbook Wlad.

[margaret thatcher]

Nah Dan, he wasnt get his head boxed off before the KD at all

[Ruthless-RKO]

Eddie Hearn wants Dillian Whyte to fight on Andy Ruiz Jr vs Anthony Joshua II undercard

‘He’d like to. I’d like him to,’ Hearn told IFL TV.

‘Saudi Arabia? I’d like him to fight this year. But obviously, mentally it’s a tough time for him. And I do feel like we’ve got to push for that because he’s allowed to fight.

‘But I think that needs to be out of his head when he fights. It’s a dangerous sport.’

Whyte has a long-running feud with Joshua and his trainer Mark Tibbs confirmed the 31-year-old had returned to the gym.

‘I’ve had a couple of training sessions with Dillian,’ he said recently.

‘Just a bit of down-time training, not boxing training. Seeing him at the weekend, bit more training.

‘He can’t wait, he can’t wait to get back fighting again.

‘That’s why he’s a little bit frustrated, but I think he’s got some business to sort out.

‘And he’s gonna get back, he loves fighting, he absolutely loves having a fight, a tear-up.’


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[Glass Joe]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Iran.html

do you think this sort of thing will effect the fight?

[oogiebe]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Iran.html

do you think this sort of thing will effect the fight?

Trump's just posturing. He'd be better served to STFU. But that ain't happening any time soon. Hopefully it won't have an impact.

[ewenhay]

Finally got round to watching The Untold Truth all the way through.

Complete gibberish from start to finish. Anna Woolhouse looked completely dumbfounded at some points.