Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Otto Wallin - September 14, 2019

[margaret thatcher]

Gonna get his sh!t pushed back up his hairy gypsy ass by Deontay

Classy post.




Idiot

[Paci]

It really a sad sight to see. And least of all see them milk him dry and throw him outbroken like Ali.

Hate to see that this bastards countine their own storylines and destroying fighters life in the process.

Espn has gone fullblown circus. Kicking out Teddy Atlas since he lost his mind over the decision in Pacman-Horn. It was a really bad one.

Now when the Heavyweight game is getting hot, of course we see BS like this.

The next coming 5 years gonna be fun. But, I hope somebody gets Fury out of that sh*t sooner then later.

This sport can break anybody, fighter to fan.

Teddy Atlas was the biggest circus of all.

At least he was somewhat more honest. But yeah he is pretty special in his way.

[Paci]

Oh don't get me started on that one again - the ring doctor and referee act!

"Lot of money is moving in other words."

Like they say - especially in Mafia Vegas - "money talks bulls h i t walks".

I'm hoping that we don't get another lost generation of heavyweights like in the 80s. But then again, big money makes people blind and stupid.

But still, this current crop is very good and gonna make business either way. Wondering how will come out on top in the end.

[Ilya Muromets]

"Lot of money is moving in other words."

Like they say - especially in Mafia Vegas - "money talks bulls h i t walks".

I'm hoping that we don't get another lost generation of heavyweights like in the 80s. But then again, big money makes people blind and stupid.

But still, this current crop is very good and gonna make business either way. Wondering how will come out on top in the end.

Usyk.

[Thomastearns]

It's funny but not long ago we were disputing whether the current crop were the best ever, mainly because of their size I think. Now we're not too sure whether Jack Dempsey wouldn't clean up the division if he was around today.

I think the Joshua v Klitschko fight was a great pointer as to the true standings of today's top heavyweights. Joshua v Ruiz was the other.

Bearing in mind most of them have been caught popping PEDs at some point or another, it shouldn't be too surprising to see some of the top names struggling if for once they're off the juice, or have switched to a less potent form of medication.

The last few decades have probably seen a lot of distorted results primarily because of this issue. Ruiz, Joshua, Wilder and Parker remain clean and then there's Dubois, Hrgovic and Usyk etc coming up.

There's been a recent trend to exercise a certain laxity when it comes to testing for big fights but as usual it's symptomatic of a sport where no one inside wants to take action if it means losing money.

On the other hand I was recently talking to someone who was arguing that the fights were much more exciting back in the days when everyone was juicing....

I've never been on the best ever train with these guys. All three have tons of flaws in different ways which would have been exposed by the best fighters of yesteryear who may have been smaller but were better rounded fighters.

The ped issues do complicate things. My personal view is that there isn't a clean fighter at the top level at heavyweight, just ones that haven't been caught yet.

You're probably right but I'd still be hurt the most if Parker ever failed a test. He's been a total credit to the sport. A throwback to more innocent times.

I still believe in Usyk, Dubois, and despite the persistent whispers, Anthony Joshua. Hopefully, fingers crossed, Wilder too.

[Paci]

I'm hoping that we don't get another lost generation of heavyweights like in the 80s. But then again, big money makes people blind and stupid.

But still, this current crop is very good and gonna make business either way. Wondering how will come out on top in the end.

Usyk.

Very resonable pick!

[ewenhay]

I've never been on the best ever train with these guys. All three have tons of flaws in different ways which would have been exposed by the best fighters of yesteryear who may have been smaller but were better rounded fighters.

The ped issues do complicate things. My personal view is that there isn't a clean fighter at the top level at heavyweight, just ones that haven't been caught yet.

You're probably right but I'd still be hurt the most if Parker ever failed a test. He's been a total credit to the sport. A throwback to more innocent times.

I still believe in Usyk, Dubois, and despite the persistent whispers, Anthony Joshua. Hopefully, fingers crossed, Wilder too.

Yeah I hope Parker is clean too. Top professional

[victor-romeo]

I think Fury was carrying Wollin the first two rounds giving the fans their moneys worth and trying to get some work in and then the shit hit the fan in the 3rd round with the cut and the thing went life and death and turned into a great fight...Wow.

[dagilechia]

Fury lacks punching power, Wallin boxed better vs Fury than Wilder did. I'd score it 116-112 - 115-13 Fury, a draw wouldn't be terrible too.

[boxing_rocks]

I think Fury was carrying Wollin the first two rounds giving the fans their moneys worth and trying to get some work in and then the poo hit the fan in the 3rd round with the cut and the thing went life and death and turned into a great fight...Wow.

I agree with the carrying part. The problem is that Fury is not a good offensive fighter. Even with a cut, Wilder, Joshua or Wlad would take Wallin out, and Fury struggled.

[victor-romeo]

It doesn't mean that Joshua and Wilder are better fighters just different type of fighters with more punching power than Fury, If Fury didn't get cut , he would have boxed and probably stopped Wallin in 6 or 7 I would suppose, Besides the cut the big thing, Wallin Resolve and the way Fury fought the south paw where the other intangibles. Andre Ward was saying Fury was moving wrong direction to be fighting south paw and I suspect he was correct.

[greg]

..aren't we making too many excuses? ..it was what it was..can you imagine what Andy Ruiz would have done to him under the circumstances..anyway, the facts are the best HW (according to some fans) with a huge 18 cm reach advantage failed to take out Otto Wallin, a largely unknown boxer outside of Sweden...I believe it makes a lot of sense what Fury's father said..

[margaret thatcher]

Fury failed to take out Franny Pianeta too right before the Wilder fight. The Schwarz blowout set people up with over expectations of dispatching Otto easily. Fury has never really been that type of fighter. Of course I wasn't expecting him to really have issues either, and he clearly did..

[jamesmcdonnell]

Usyk.

Very resonable pick!

Usyk isn't going to be heavy handed enough, unless he turns out to have a chin like holy fields I dont see him coming out on top.

[Paci]

Very resonable pick!

Usyk isn't going to be heavy handed enough, unless he turns out to have a chin like holy fields I dont see him coming out on top.

Im holding him pretty high. Since well, he played with Joe Joyce in the WSB.

[Ilya Muromets]

Usyk isn't going to be heavy handed enough, unless he turns out to have a chin like holy fields I dont see him coming out on top.

Im holding him pretty high. Since well, he played with Joe Joyce in the WSB.

He knocked Hunter around like he was a rag doll. I saw he was extraordinary the very first time I saw him. He shouldn't have cut off his Cossack hair style though. It gives you extra power. But I cut mine off too.

[Ilya Muromets]

Here are the Las Vegas judges' scorecards:



Tim Cheatham 110-118 | Eric Cheek 111-117 | Don Trella 112-116



Trella's is the only one that's fair. That first guy has the right name, Cheatham pronounced "cheat 'em". Reminds me of the law firm, Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe!

[Bandog]

I think Fury's old man summed it up well. He easily could have lost that fight due to the cut, but also was closer than the cards look. Its a good thing it wasn't Ortiz he was fighting. This is the newer, fresher, in shape Fury Wilder is supposed to be afraid of?

It wasn't closer than the cards. The cards were quite accurate. Fury won most rounds, wore Wallin out and was sitting on power punches and beating the daylights out of him by the championship rounds. The cut lent the fight all of its drama. Big credit to Wallin for that 12th round, though.

Fury's dad thought otherwise: John Fury on Tyson vs Otto Wallin: “I’ve never seen him as bad… He’s a lucky man to get the win… If he’d have been in front of any other man tonight, Wilder, Ruiz, he wouldn’t be coming away the winner. He wouldn’t have beat Povetkin on that performance.”

[lazboy]

Fury performed well. I counted maybe 3 rounds he lost. Wallin was slippery however Fury was landing the better quality of punches throughout.

Past round 7 Fury started dominating Wallin. He got clipped in rd 12 and was briefly wobbled. Can happen, plus he had exerted a lot of energy.

Good tough fight for him, his fitness held up, I see this as putting him in good stead for Wilder, aside from the cut.

[ewenhay]

Fury performed well. I counted maybe 3 rounds he lost. Wallin was slippery however Fury was landing the better quality of punches throughout.

Past round 7 Fury started dominating Wallin. He got clipped in rd 12 and was briefly wobbled. Can happen, plus he had exerted a lot of energy.

Good tough fight for him, his fitness held up, I see this as putting him in good stead for Wilder, aside from the cut.

I had it 9-3, maybe 8-4 if I'm being generous.

Fury had to work a hell of a lot harder than he would have expected though. And then the injury on top of that.

Not the most successful keep busy fight by any means.

[squiggy]

It wasn't closer than the cards. The cards were quite accurate. Fury won most rounds, wore Wallin out and was sitting on power punches and beating the daylights out of him by the championship rounds. The cut lent the fight all of its drama. Big credit to Wallin for that 12th round, though.

Fury's dad thought otherwise: John Fury on Tyson vs Otto Wallin: “I’ve never seen him as bad… He’s a lucky man to get the win… If he’d have been in front of any other man tonight, Wilder, Ruiz, he wouldn’t be coming away the winner. He wouldn’t have beat Povetkin on that performance.”

I saw his dad's comments -- I just don't agree with them. All of the drama in that fight came from the cut. Without the cut it was just Fury winning eight or nine or ten rounds of a not-all-that-classic fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Tyson Fury’s victory over Otto Walin was moderately impressive, with the Brit overcoming adversity to deliver a gutsy workman-like performance to secure the win.

[diddy]

His dad was being a total drama queen. Fury has fought down to opposition often in his career. And the cut was the main factor here for sure. Its obvious John Fury already had some deep rooted resentment toward Fury's team heading into this fight and was looking for a reason to fume about something. This fight has no bearing of what will happen for Fury vs Wilder or whoever. Every fight is different. And Fury boxes differently against guys he respects.

[gilgamesh]

His dad was being a total drama queen. Fury has fought down to opposition often in his career. And the cut was the main factor here for sure. Its obvious John Fury already had some deep rooted resentment toward Fury's team heading into this fight and was looking for a reason to fume about something. This fight has no bearing of what will happen for Fury vs Wilder or whoever. Every fight is different. And Fury boxes differently against guys he respects.

I think it'll look similar to the 1st fight really. It's just a matter of whether Wilder can get there easier this time or not. Fury will always make mistakes, and get hit. Wilder can fight better than he did before. I'm not sure Fury can.

Though neither of them necessarily show much improvement, Wilder has at least shown some.

[ValMar]

I think Fury was carrying Wollin the first two rounds giving the fans their moneys worth and trying to get some work in and then the poo hit the fan in the 3rd round with the cut and the thing went life and death and turned into a great fight...Wow.

I agree..............
Unfortunately, I couldn't watch the fight, I have seen the highlights (on the YouTube) only.................