MMA

[Wee Tommy]

I see Kron Gracie is finally locked in for October against Cub Swanson. I guess he is in no rush, but its been quite a break considering he took zero damage against Caceres.

Wow..... actually just came across an interview where Kron says he believes the earth is flat .

I’m sure Eddie Bravo believes that crap too! I thought these ju jitsu guys didn’t take many punches to the head.

[Tinnie]

I see Kron Gracie is finally locked in for October against Cub Swanson. I guess he is in no rush, but its been quite a break considering he took zero damage against Caceres.

Wow..... actually just came across an interview where Kron says he believes the earth is flat .

I’m sure Eddie Bravo believes that crap too! I thought these ju jitsu guys didn’t take many punches to the head.

I think he said it on his podcast

[jamesmcdonnell]

I see Kron Gracie is finally locked in for October against Cub Swanson. I guess he is in no rush, but its been quite a break considering he took zero damage against Caceres.

Wow..... actually just came across an interview where Kron says he believes the earth is flat .

I’m sure Eddie Bravo believes that crap too! I thought these ju jitsu guys didn’t take many punches to the head.

Maybe brain damage from choke holds?

[jamesmcdonnell]

The bulk of McGregor's career so far has been the story of a guy inexplicably getting far more than he deserves. He's a white guy that talks sh*t so I guess he makes other white guy wannabe tough guys feel like he's one of them?

His superstardom doesn't really make sense to me. Especially after losing to Nate Diaz.

Losing to Nate in MMA is the equivalent of losing to say Josesito Lopez in a Welterweight Boxing match.

Maybe Nate's not THAT far down the line, but he is not, nor has he ever been one of the top guys in his weight class.

I disagree. Conor's level of fame and money relative to his accomplishments is a little off, but he still has some great wins under his belt. He knocked Poirier out in an under a round, he knocked Aldo the long time featherweight champion out in 13 seconds, and he also has a win over Holloway who has been very dominant at featherweight for awhile now.

Styles make fights though and Diaz was just a tough matchup for Conors particular skillset.

Be interesting to see how he fared against Holloway now...

[Nondescript]

I disagree. Conor's level of fame and money relative to his accomplishments is a little off, but he still has some great wins under his belt. He knocked Poirier out in an under a round, he knocked Aldo the long time featherweight champion out in 13 seconds, and he also has a win over Holloway who has been very dominant at featherweight for awhile now.

Styles make fights though and Diaz was just a tough matchup for Conors particular skillset.

Be interesting to see how he fared against Holloway now...

Holloway didn't look good at 155 against Dustin so I'm not sure. He didn't seem big enough, or that he hit hard enough at 155.

[Impractical Poster]

Conor is one of the best strikers I've seen in MMA. But if he can be taken down, he is not extraordinary. He built up an impressive resume in a short amount of time. Especially considering what Dustin and Max have achieved since Conor beat them. The issues I have with Conor (MMA related) are his unwillingness to defend a title and his inactivity. Justin was right in saying he's irrelevant. Conor teases a comeback after nearly every UFC event. It's stupid at this point. Shit or get off the pot.

[Impractical Poster]

I certainly wouldn't say I know nothing about it, but admittedly I'm not up to speed on the current scene in MMA all that well, by which I mean...most MMA happenings post 2007

I've actually written up a pretty extensive history of a lot of the early Pride Events though. I have a close to encyclopedic knowledge of the formative MMA years, but my interest waned a lot after Pride went away.

Out of curiosity, why had you no interest in switching over to the UFC after Pride disbanded?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Conor is one of the best strikers I've seen in MMA. But if he can be taken down, he is not extraordinary. He built up an impressive resume in a short amount of time. Especially considering what Dustin and Max have achieved since Conor beat them. The issues I have with Conor (MMA related) are his unwillingness to defend a title and his inactivity. Justin was right in saying he's irrelevant. Conor teases a comeback after nearly every UFC event. It's stupid at this point. poo or get off the pot.

His striking is phenomenal, but he has a very poor overall game, which probably explains why he didn't defend belts, as he would have to face the top contenders who would have problematic skill sets

[gilgamesh]

I certainly wouldn't say I know nothing about it, but admittedly I'm not up to speed on the current scene in MMA all that well, by which I mean...most MMA happenings post 2007

I've actually written up a pretty extensive history of a lot of the early Pride Events though. I have a close to encyclopedic knowledge of the formative MMA years, but my interest waned a lot after Pride went away.

Out of curiosity, why had you no interest in switching over to the UFC after Pride disbanded?

Because it's not as good. The fighters and the events just can't hold my interest like they did in Pride.

I can't really put my finger on why it doesn't appeal to me as much. I know the addition of this rule and that rule disallowing the fighters to do a lot of stuff they used to could do in the sport had a lot to do with it.

Because I even like the UFC better in the early formative years when nobody really gave a sh*t about it yet.

Pride FC also have events that I doubt will ever be topped in MMA. They had multiple cards that had more than one Superfight quality fight on it that could sell a PPV alone, but was accompanied by 3 or 4 other similarly high profile bouts. You don't see that anywhere in Combat Spots anymore.

It was like Real Fighting's answer to WrestleMania.

[Nondescript]

Conor is one of the best strikers I've seen in MMA. But if he can be taken down, he is not extraordinary. He built up an impressive resume in a short amount of time. Especially considering what Dustin and Max have achieved since Conor beat them. The issues I have with Conor (MMA related) are his unwillingness to defend a title and his inactivity. Justin was right in saying he's irrelevant. Conor teases a comeback after nearly every UFC event. It's stupid at this point. poo or get off the pot.

His striking is phenomenal, but he has a very poor overall game, which probably explains why he didn't defend belts, as he would have to face the top contenders who would have problematic skill sets

Conor has neglected his striking aswell a bit these days.

He used to have great kicks aswell as punches, but he's become very one dimensional and boxing orientated which is a shame, because his kicking game was really good aswell.

[Counter-puncher]

Out of curiosity, why had you no interest in switching over to the UFC after Pride disbanded?

Because it's not as good. The fighters and the events just can't hold my interest like they did in Pride.

I can't really put my finger on why it doesn't appeal to me as much. I know the addition of this rule and that rule disallowing the fighters to do a lot of stuff they used to could do in the sport had a lot to do with it.

Because I even like the UFC better in the early formative years when nobody really gave a sh*t about it yet.

Pride FC also have events that I doubt will ever be topped in MMA. They had multiple cards that had more than one Superfight quality fight on it that could sell a PPV alone, but was accompanied by 3 or 4 other similarly high profile bouts. You don't see that anywhere in Combat Spots anymore.

It was like Real Fighting's answer to WrestleMania.

The 2005 middleweight GP and fights on those cards (included Fedor/ Crocop?!) were fvcking insane. Shoguns run through that tourney kicked so much ass.

[jamesmcdonnell]

His striking is phenomenal, but he has a very poor overall game, which probably explains why he didn't defend belts, as he would have to face the top contenders who would have problematic skill sets

Conor has neglected his striking aswell a bit these days.

He used to have great kicks aswell as punches, but he's become very one dimensional and boxing orientated which is a shame, because his kicking game was really good aswell.

Yes he rarely throws kicks now, other than the odd low kick to keep opponents at range for his striking. He's become extremely one dimensional.

[Impractical Poster]

Conor is one of the best strikers I've seen in MMA. But if he can be taken down, he is not extraordinary. He built up an impressive resume in a short amount of time. Especially considering what Dustin and Max have achieved since Conor beat them. The issues I have with Conor (MMA related) are his unwillingness to defend a title and his inactivity. Justin was right in saying he's irrelevant. Conor teases a comeback after nearly every UFC event. It's stupid at this point. poo or get off the pot.

His striking is phenomenal, but he has a very poor overall game, which probably explains why he didn't defend belts, as he would have to face the top contenders who would have problematic skill sets

During his run to the top, I feel he had a very good game. If you say Conor's overall game was poor, I would assume you felt the same for A Silva? Neither were great wrestlers. Conor showed very good TDD against Alvarez. When Conor was on, he was on. Not a top wrestler or jui jitsu guy, but his striking made up for it in the majority of his bouts.

I can't believe I'm defending Conor. I haven't been able to stand him since he came onto the scene. Yet, I still want to be fair in criticism. He has beaten top guys in a short time span. He's a mess now though. Who didn't see this coming? Pretty sure this whole thing doesn't end well for him. I just feel sorry for the innocent people he is dragging along with him. Like his son.

[jujigatame]

McGregor's entire resume is basically 3 fights, Mendes, Aldo, and Alvarez. He beat Poirer and Holloway in their early careers. Giving him extra credit because they became champs many years later is not how it should work.

[Impractical Poster]

McGregor's entire resume is basically 3 fights, Mendes, Aldo, and Alvarez. He beat Poirer and Holloway in their early careers. Giving him extra credit because they became champs many years later is not how it should work.

Poirier and Holloway were more established against better competition than Conor at the time they met. And very well respected top tier fighters. The fact they went on to be even better just gives more credibility to how good Conor was.

For the record, careerwise, his resume is not very impressive. But what he was able to accomplish within his first 3 years in the UFC is very impressive.

[jujigatame]

McGregor's entire resume is basically 3 fights, Mendes, Aldo, and Alvarez. He beat Poirer and Holloway in their early careers. Giving him extra credit because they became champs many years later is not how it should work.

Poirier and Holloway were more established against better competition than Conor at the time they met. And very well respected top tier fighters. The fact they went on to be even better just gives more credibility to how good Conor was.

For the record, careerwise, his resume is not very impressive. But what he was able to accomplish within his first 3 years in the UFC is very impressive.

Maybe you could say that about Poirier, who was a borderline top 10 guy in the FW division when Conor (who was a relatively new fighter in the UFC) fought him.

You absolutely cannot say that about Holloway, who was 21 years old and 3-2 in the UFC with 0 wins over anyone remotely impressive when he fought Conor.

[Nondescript]

McGregor's entire resume is basica lly 3 fights, Mendes, Aldo, and Alvarez. He beat Poirer and Holloway in their early careers. Giving him extra credit because they became champs many years later is not how it should work.

C'mon that's disingenuous. The Holloway fight that's a fair argument, but in regards to Poirier, he's basically the same age as Conor and if it was early in Dustins career, then it was also early in Mcgregors career aswell and he would have also been green.

[Wee Tommy]

Poirier was rated above Connor at the time, he was seen as the first guy he fought who had a chance against him in UFC.

[Impractical Poster]

It's easy for Conor critics to be disingenuous when it comes to Conors achievements.

[jujigatame]

McGregor's entire resume is basica lly 3 fights, Mendes, Aldo, and Alvarez. He beat Poirer and Holloway in their early careers. Giving him extra credit because they became champs many years later is not how it should work.

C'mon that's disingenuous. The Holloway fight that's a fair argument, but in regards to Poirier, he's basically the same age as Conor and if it was early in Dustins career, then it was also early in Mcgregors career aswell and he would have also been green.

No, it's not disingenuous at all. Beating Poirer who was ranked maybe around #10 at FW should not be considered an equal accomplishment as beating Poirer who was top 3 at LW several years later.

I agree it was early in both guy's careers, but that doesn't change the fact that the win over Poirier should not be considered very significant when we're talking about ATG resumes.

[jujigatame]

Poirier was rated above Connor at the time, he was seen as the first guy he fought who had a chance against him in UFC.

Again, not disagreeing with that, just pointing out that a win over a borderline top 10 guy should not be hugely significant when evaluating the resumes of supposed ATGs.

[Wee Tommy]

Poirier was rated above Connor at the time, he was seen as the first guy he fought who had a chance against him in UFC.

Again, not disagreeing with that, just pointing out that a win over a borderline top 10 guy should not be hugely significant when evaluating the resumes of supposed ATGs.

I agree.

[Onetimeonly]

Meh, some guys that were rated #1 turned out shit. There is perspective to be taken into consideration, but they're still high level wins. Doesn't really matter as long as gaithjie and Ferguson fight someday all is right in the world. Preferably after scarface fucks up whinebib and jg kos conor!

[Impractical Poster]

Poirier was rated above Connor at the time, he was seen as the first guy he fought who had a chance against him in UFC.

Again, not disagreeing with that, just pointing out that a win over a borderline top 10 guy should not be hugely significant when evaluating the resumes of supposed ATGs.

For the record, Poirier was ranked #6 @ FW at the time Conor faced him. Dennis Siver was also #6 when he faced him. Conor had an impressive 3 year run when entering the UFC.

[Impractical Poster]

Conor has been awfully quiet whenever it comes to Gamebred.

In the news today in an interview with Masvidal:

“The president himself already said it, so I don’t want to go to jail for killing nobody,” he said. “It’s not what I want to do. I’m here to compete and to keep beating people up.”

Masvidal doubled down when asked if he could “take care” of the Dubliner.

“The president said we couldn’t compete because I’m too much man, so that can’t happen,” he said. “We’re different spectrums. [Dana White] is not going to allow that to happen.”

Usually Conor would be responding to things like this.