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Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
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apollo creed
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
AJ ain't gonna get his props if he doesn't redeem himself in a proper good fashion. It would look like loss if AJ runs and he gets saved all the time by the ref imo, even if he gets the decision.
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Dream Teamapollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 09:48Giuseppe Quartarone, C. J. Ross and Adalaide Byrd= The guarantee you'll get the D squad![]()
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Ilya Muromets
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Maybe.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.
But he's got plenty time to train
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
I think he'd be a one hit wonder anyway to be honest with you. Discipline has obviously never been his strong suit, and Joshua is gonna come with a much smarter strategy for the rematch you'd think.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.
Yeah. I think ultimately Ruiz is gonna go down as this decade's answer to Hasim Rahman.
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
What strategy do you think Joshua will deploy and how will he be able to implement it?gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:10I think he'd be a one hit wonder anyway to be honest with you. Discipline has obviously never been his strong suit, and Joshua is gonna come with a much smarter strategy for the rematch you'd think.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 11:00 My guess is Ruiz let himself go with all his new found wealth, buying expensive houses and cars and jewelery, with less time to train, and so I pick him as a one fight wonder.
Yeah. I think ultimately Ruiz is gonna go down as this decade's answer to Hasim Rahman.
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:19What strategy do you think Joshua will deploy and how will he be able to implement it?gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:10
I think he'd be a one hit wonder anyway to be honest with you. Discipline has obviously never been his strong suit, and Joshua is gonna come with a much smarter strategy for the rematch you'd think.
Yeah. I think ultimately Ruiz is gonna go down as this decade's answer to Hasim Rahman.
When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Important thing is to not get over eager and limit how much he trades with Ruiz. Ruiz thrives when you exchange with him closer in.
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apollo creed
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It's easy to say that but I believe that AJ is gun-shy atm. Ruiz ate AJ's power and fired back to stop him. That thing must be in the back of AJ's mind. People forget that Ruiz Jr is the better fighter.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)
When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.
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Ruiz did get dropped himself so it's not like AJ can't hurt him. He just needs to be smarter when he does.apollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:32It's easy to say that but I believe that AJ is gun-shy atm. Ruiz ate AJ's power and fired back to stop him. That thing must be in the back of AJ's mind. People forget that Ruiz Jr is the better fighter.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24
Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)
When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.
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apollo creed
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Yes but he got up and whooped AJ. That is even more scary. That's mexican grit and heart.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:33Ruiz did get dropped himself so it's not like AJ can't hurt him. He just needs to be smarter when he does.apollo creed wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:32
It's easy to say that but I believe that AJ is gun-shy atm. Ruiz ate AJ's power and fired back to stop him. That thing must be in the back of AJ's mind. People forget that Ruiz Jr is the better fighter.
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)
When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.
I think he can keep the distance, certainly for a while at least. Not sure he can become effective at clinching in such a short period, his attempts at clinching in the last fight were woeful.
It's going to be really interesting as he's going to know he's being hunted down. He's going to have to be composed and patient, will be interesting to see if he can remain so.
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Yeah moving is always gonna be the better option for him if he has it. If Ruiz is right up on him, and he just can't get away he needs to clinch. Surely a big strong boy like him can figure out how to grab somebody.ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:31gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 12:24
Using his jab and right hand from a distance. Grabbing on the inside. (that needs to be the primary focus of his camp)
When he goes on the attack with power shots he needs to pick his spots very carefully, and don't stay in too long. Get your shots off, and move or clinch or whatever. Don't wait for Ruiz's counters.
I think he can keep the distance, certainly for a while at least. Not sure he can become effective at clinching in such a short period, his attempts at clinching in the last fight were woeful.
It's going to be really interesting as he's going to know he's being hunted down. He's going to have to be composed and patient, will be interesting to see if he can remain so.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
AJ still has novice tendencies and grabbing hold of his opponent might not be the right tactic to use, especially if it’s employed excessively.gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:33Yeah moving is always gonna be the better option for him if he has it. If Ruiz is right up on him, and he just can't get away he needs to clinch. Surely a big strong boy like him can figure out how to grab somebody.ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 13:31
I think he can keep the distance, certainly for a while at least. Not sure he can become effective at clinching in such a short period, his attempts at clinching in the last fight were woeful.
It's going to be really interesting as he's going to know he's being hunted down. He's going to have to be composed and patient, will be interesting to see if he can remain so.
There’s a certain art to clinching. It has to be done in a productive and intelligent manner and not just to avoid fighting on the inside.
Joshua would have to find a way to make his clinches brief and either let his hands go after pushing Ruiz Jr. away or lean on the Mexican-American immediately prior to using his own legs to move quickly out-of-range.
If Joshua only uses the clinch to nullify Ruiz Jr’s inside work and to gain a breather, then he’ll likely get penalised by the referee for being overly-negative... and rightly so. It may even cause him to lose rounds on the judges’ scorecards.
I also feel that a fighter as short as Andy Ruiz Jr, must have spent his entire career in the gym, the amateurs and also the pro ranks facing bigger guys that persistently clinch, which means he’ll probably already have a way to handle this tactic.
I’m not suggesting that clinching won’t work for AJ in the rematch, but it’s a tactic he’ll have to use sparingly and carefully, because it could back-fire when misused.
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I never thought I'd say thisEnlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:13AJ still has novice tendencies and grabbing hold of his opponent might not be the right tactic to use, especially if it’s employed excessively.
There’s a certain art to clinching. It has to be done in a productive and intelligent manner and not just to avoid fighting on the inside.
Joshua would have to find a way to make his clinches brief and either let his hands go after pushing Ruiz Jr. away or lean on the Mexican-American immediately prior to using his own legs to move quickly out-of-range.
If Joshua only uses the clinch to nullify Ruiz Jr’s inside work and to gain a breather, then he’ll likely get penalised by the referee for being overly-negative... and rightly so. It may even cause him to lose rounds on the judges’ scorecards.
I also feel that a fighter as short as Andy Ruiz Jr, must have spent his entire career in the gym, the amateurs and also the pro ranks facing bigger guys that persistently clinch, which means he’ll probably already have a way to handle this tactic.
I’m not suggesting that clinching won’t work for AJ in the rematch, but it’s a tactic he’ll have to use sparingly and carefully, because it could back-fire when misused.
But I agree with every word
Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Me too. Wasn't the first time. Won't be the last. EO comes out with good ones now and then! LOL!ewenhay wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:19I never thought I'd say thisEnlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 12:13
AJ still has novice tendencies and grabbing hold of his opponent might not be the right tactic to use, especially if it’s employed excessively.
There’s a certain art to clinching. It has to be done in a productive and intelligent manner and not just to avoid fighting on the inside.
Joshua would have to find a way to make his clinches brief and either let his hands go after pushing Ruiz Jr. away or lean on the Mexican-American immediately prior to using his own legs to move quickly out-of-range.
If Joshua only uses the clinch to nullify Ruiz Jr’s inside work and to gain a breather, then he’ll likely get penalised by the referee for being overly-negative... and rightly so. It may even cause him to lose rounds on the judges’ scorecards.
I also feel that a fighter as short as Andy Ruiz Jr, must have spent his entire career in the gym, the amateurs and also the pro ranks facing bigger guys that persistently clinch, which means he’ll probably already have a way to handle this tactic.
I’m not suggesting that clinching won’t work for AJ in the rematch, but it’s a tactic he’ll have to use sparingly and carefully, because it could back-fire when misused.
But I agree with every word
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Re: Andy Ruiz may surprise us! He's no joke!
Reading a lot of surprising posts here, AJ has to move, AJ has to clinch, AJ has to break out of clinch with sharp counters..... have you actually watched AJ box, one dimensional, starting that annoying thing of talking bout himself an “ we”’as in the third person. The “ lucky” punch etc.
He no plan B, no stamina, can only move in straight lines.... Ruiz tasted the sweet life an will wanna stay there. Could go either way coz for all AJ,s flaws , he carries Ko power.
May the best man win .
He no plan B, no stamina, can only move in straight lines.... Ruiz tasted the sweet life an will wanna stay there. Could go either way coz for all AJ,s flaws , he carries Ko power.
May the best man win .
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Truemarkinmidd wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 13:03 Reading a lot of surprising posts here, AJ has to move, AJ has to clinch, AJ has to break out of clinch with sharp counters..... have you actually watched AJ box, one dimensional, starting that annoying thing of talking bout himself an “ we”’as in the third person. The “ lucky” punch etc.
He no plan B, no stamina, can only move in straight lines.... Ruiz tasted the sweet life an will wanna stay there. Could go either way coz for all AJ,s flaws , he carries Ko power.
May the best man win .
The irony is that fat T-Rex handed fighter is the better boxer/technician between both of them. Plus he has a strong grit when he's in deep waters. That means a lot. Also he has power too.