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MVP is saying Dan Miragliota shoved him off his opponent and called him a POS when stopping the bout.

Good for Dan!
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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 17:14 MVP is saying Dan Miragliota shoved him off his opponent and called him a POS when stopping the bout.

Good for Dan!
He took a point off him for being a pr1ck too
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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 17:04 Looks we got another serious contender at 185. Cannoneer looked great today.
Harmansson looked really bad. Some of his shots were unbelievably clumsy and telegraphed. Couldn't believe I was watching the same guy that beat Jacare.
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jujigatame wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 22:33
Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Sep 2019, 17:04 Looks we got another serious contender at 185. Cannoneer looked great today.
Harmansson looked really bad. Some of his shots were unbelievably clumsy and telegraphed. Couldn't believe I was watching the same guy that beat Jacare.
He looked good early in the first round. Cannoneer pretty much took the wind out of his sails when he was able to get back up.
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High Fight tonight.
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Hoping Adesanya gets blasted.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 11:25 Hoping Adesanya gets blasted.
X2 I like whitaker and am growing to hate fake Silva more than the original.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 11:43
Impractical Poster wrote: 05 Oct 2019, 11:25 Hoping Adesanya gets blasted.
X2 I like whitaker and am growing to hate fake Silva more than the original.
Holy Shit is Adesanya annoying! I'd also love to see Jones smash him backstage somewhere. He's practically begging for it.
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Who else thinks Adesanya wins?
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Adesanya is now that guy I hope anyone beats. Robert was way too wild.
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Who was the first stylebender? What even is it? :maybe:
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samwbr wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 15:00 Who was the first stylebender? What even is it? :maybe:
Frank Maloney.
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Daaaaamn..... weird thing to say but Thomas Gifford getting flatlined was almost the merciful way to finish the fight in the end.... that fight should in no way lasted as long as it did.....

It was a strange situation where, towards the end, there wasnt really a significant moment where the ref could intervene......

His corner really should have stepped in...... I find it a very strange that the rules say, the corner cant throw in the towel for their fighter, but then goes on to say if they do, then the fighter will be DQ'd..... not sure the UFC's stance/veiws on this but the towel should have been thrown in minutes earlier in that bout at the minimum.....

I see no logical reason why a corner stoppage should result in a DQ
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Tinnie wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 19:57 Daaaaamn..... weird thing to say but Thomas Gifford getting flatlined was almost the merciful way to finish the fight in the end.... that fight should in no way lasted as long as it did.....

It was a strange situation where, towards the end, there wasnt really a significant moment where the ref could intervene......

His corner really should have stepped in...... I find it a very strange that the rules say, the corner cant throw in the towel for their fighter, but then goes on to say if they do, then the fighter will be DQ'd..... not sure the UFC's stance/veiws on this but the towel should have been thrown in minutes earlier in that bout at the minimum.....

I see no logical reason why a corner stoppage should result in a DQ
Just watched that fight, the kid took a lot of unnecessary abuse. Either the corner or the ref should have stopped it. The ref really could have stopped it about 30 seconds before the KO when he was just falling over anytime he ate a strike of any kind.
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jujigatame wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 21:29
Tinnie wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 19:57 Daaaaamn..... weird thing to say but Thomas Gifford getting flatlined was almost the merciful way to finish the fight in the end.... that fight should in no way lasted as long as it did.....

It was a strange situation where, towards the end, there wasnt really a significant moment where the ref could intervene......

His corner really should have stepped in...... I find it a very strange that the rules say, the corner cant throw in the towel for their fighter, but then goes on to say if they do, then the fighter will be DQ'd..... not sure the UFC's stance/veiws on this but the towel should have been thrown in minutes earlier in that bout at the minimum.....

I see no logical reason why a corner stoppage should result in a DQ
Just watched that fight, the kid took a lot of unnecessary abuse. Either the corner or the ref should have stopped it. The ref really could have stopped it about 30 seconds before the KO when he was just falling over anytime he ate a strike of any kind.
Shameful display. Had that been boxing in the UK the fight would've been stopped sereval times over by the ref, corner retirement or the towel coming in.

I'd like to see the athletic comission hit the ufc with a heavy fine for bouts that go on too long, it's gross negligence.
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Wee Tommy wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 15:19
samwbr wrote: 07 Oct 2019, 15:00 Who was the first stylebender? What even is it? :maybe:
Frank Maloney.
Hahahaha nice one :TU:
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I don't think the promoter (UFC) can do anything about it. It's the responsibility of the corner and the ref, neither of whom work for the promoter.
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Ricky wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 21:42
jujigatame wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 21:29

Just watched that fight, the kid took a lot of unnecessary abuse. Either the corner or the ref should have stopped it. The ref really could have stopped it about 30 seconds before the KO when he was just falling over anytime he ate a strike of any kind.
Shameful display. Had that been boxing in the UK the fight would've been stopped sereval times over by the ref, corner retirement or the towel coming in.

I'd like to see the athletic comission hit the ufc with a heavy fine for bouts that go on too long, it's gross negligence.
If anything, the commission will go after the ref. They oversee the referees in boxing and mma in their respective state. The UFC has nothing to do with that.
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Can't remember the last time I've seen and upkick KO. Vick's management should have him evaluated and think of possible retirement. He's lost his last 4 fights with 3 of them being by KO.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 23:08
Ricky wrote: 12 Oct 2019, 21:42

Shameful display. Had that been boxing in the UK the fight would've been stopped sereval times over by the ref, corner retirement or the towel coming in.

I'd like to see the athletic comission hit the ufc with a heavy fine for bouts that go on too long, it's gross negligence.
If anything, the commission will go after the ref. They oversee the referees in boxing and mma in their respective state. The UFC has nothing to do with that.

And what about the corner? I'd happily see the ref struck off, the corner banned and the UFC hit with a massive fine; we'll quickly see an end to this gross negligence of athletes if something is done about it.

I've also noticed a trending habit of refs looking at the click when making a decision on stopping a bout. I'd fire and ban any ref who i caught doing that instantly.
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I'd give a ref a bonus for admitting they considered the time of the round as a major factor.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 11:46 I'd give a ref a bonus for admitting they considered the time of the round as a major factor.
iirc the adesanya gastelum instance was pretty bad, the ref was itching to jump in but i remember him taking a few glances at the clock. Why do the refs even care about the clock, bizarre way for a ref to think, putting an athlete's sense of pride over his safety.
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Ricky wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 14:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 11:46 I'd give a ref a bonus for admitting they considered the time of the round as a major factor.
iirc the adesanya gastelum instance was pretty bad, the ref was itching to jump in but i remember him taking a few glances at the clock. Why do the refs even care about the clock, bizarre way for a ref to think, putting an athlete's sense of pride over his safety.
I wish Richard Steele cared about the clock more than his bonus check from king.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 16:16
Ricky wrote: 13 Oct 2019, 14:18

iirc the adesanya gastelum instance was pretty bad, the ref was itching to jump in but i remember him taking a few glances at the clock. Why do the refs even care about the clock, bizarre way for a ref to think, putting an athlete's sense of pride over his safety.
I wish Richard Steele cared about the clock more than his bonus check from king.
I recently ran across a poll on a different boxing forum polling if Steele should have stopped the fight.

56 agree
46 disagree

That was a tough call for sure. I would have liked to have seen Taylor win the bout. I'm glad I'm not a ref.
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