LOL throw in the towel? Why even mention the end of it unless you are wanting out? Man up mate and keep at it if it's that easyGreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:00 Can I suggest you throw in the towel because I feel like I'm beating the fornicate out of an overmatched opponent who can't fight back but just will not go down, I feel bad man, just yield, and think on how you were made a fool of today
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:02LOL throw in the towel? Why even mention the end of it unless you are wanting out? Man up mate and keep at it if it's that easyGreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:00 Can I suggest you throw in the towel because I feel like I'm beating the fornicate out of an overmatched opponent who can't fight back but just will not go down, I feel bad man, just yield, and think on how you were made a fool of today![]()
You might as well say "I know you are but what am I" at this point, you've made an absolute and complete fool of yourself. I'm not "simply trying to say" I'm saying that is what the EVIDENCE, overwhelmingly PROVES, you just said you follow the evidence, so why are you so stubborn on this issue despite the evidence being so clearly against you? You'd rather move the goalposts. The people who did the studies have said it, and the evidence points to it, that's why I say it. Why say you are about evidence and fact when you clearly are not?? Why can;t you accept the truth?
You have done your namesake well, stubborn and uncompromising, despite being very much on the wrong side of history, I admire your spirit, but you are so out of your depth it's hard to keep punching you in the face without feeling bad, I am a man of conscience, whereas you are a triggered bitter little snowflake
Silly silly silly man
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Lol, the evidence isn't against me at all. Even you admit that the differences in result are real and I haven't even once made a specific claim of fact as to why that is, of course I already said even well before you got tthe urge to bump the thread that it may well be socioeconimic.. Certainly I haven't said there IS an innate difference, yet you still prattle on yelling racist and being a snowflake. You have repeatedly failed to grasp what I've actually said and the main thing that whatever the differences may be, they should be allowed to get discussed without emotional snowflakes moaning. But, just as I noted and anticipated, the near genius frost had to go and prove my point 
Lol, and talk of throwing in the towel, come on man , better get that second wind if you want out
Lol, and talk of throwing in the towel, come on man , better get that second wind if you want out
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:17 Lol, the evidence isn't against me at all. Even you admit that the differences in result are real and I haven't even once made a specific claim as to why that is. Certainly I haven't said there IS an innate difference, yet you still prattle on yelling racist and being a snowflake. You have repeatedly failed to grasp what I've actually said and the main thing that whatever the differences may be, they should be allowed to get discussed without emotional snowflakes moaning. But, just as I noted and anticipated, you had to go and prove my point![]()
I'm disappointed, I thought you had a bit more about you than this, all mouth no trousers, fur coat and no knickers, mutton dressed as lamb, pretty pathetic effort overall mate, C- and you only get that because of your determination to keep spouting the same bollocks over and over again despite being proven wrong time and time again. Everybody who reads this knows the craic mate, go back to the goofy boxers thread mate, it's getting sad, the only emotion I feel right now is pity and sadness towards yourself
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Lol, was obviously good enough for you to bump the thread after 2 weeks to scream racism, face it mate, I had you hooked 
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"It may be socioeconomic"
May be...

May be...
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:22 Lol, was obviously good enough for you to bump the thread after 2 weeks to scream racism, face it mate, I had you hooked![]()
You just got absolutely humiliated and you don't even seem to realise it, you're like a tune-up fight mate, where is the actual challenge?? Is this it? Is this the best you can do??? aren't you embarrassed??
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LOL, ya, you'd much prefer if I said it was an innate racial advantage, then you could really cry your heart out
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You're flagging mate, maybe take some of Panama's stamina juice and come back with something betterGreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:24margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:22 Lol, was obviously good enough for you to bump the thread after 2 weeks to scream racism, face it mate, I had you hooked![]()
You just got absolutely humiliated and you don't even seem to realise it, you're like a tune-up fight mate, where is the actual challenge?? Is this it? Is this the best you can do??? aren't you embarrassed??
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What you say doesn't mean shit when it comes to the evidence...you are a man of open logical discussion and evidence..yet the evidence suggests you are not. Irony at its finest, facts don't care about your feelings bruh, stop being such a wee snowflakemargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:25LOL, ya, you'd much prefer if I said it was an innate racial advantage, then you could really cry your heart out![]()
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There is no evidence contradicting me here mate, in fact you actually agreed with me that the results do vary by group, which you then tried to give a reason for, one which doesn't contradict me at all. I wasn't the one who immediately came to this thread yelling 'racism!!' That of course was the emotional near genius 
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I'm having a ball matemargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:27You're flagging mate, maybe take some of Panama's stamina juice and come back with something betterGreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:24
You just got absolutely humiliated and you don't even seem to realise it, you're like a tune-up fight mate, where is the actual challenge?? Is this it? Is this the best you can do??? aren't you embarrassed??![]()
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Project? Says the guy who started talking about throwing in towels 
Glad to see my posts could bring you back for a good time
Glad to see my posts could bring you back for a good time
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:29 There is no evidence contradicting me here mate, in fact you actually agreed with me that the results do vary by group, which you then tried to give a reason for, one which doesn't contradict me at all. I wasn't the one who immediately came to this thread yelling 'racism!!' That of course was the emotional near genius![]()
Do I really need to repeat for the eleventh thousand millionth time as to why the results vary by group? I'm more curious as to why you won't accept it?? I am the emotional guy who won't deal with logic, yet I admitted the results vary by group, then gave the accepted, proven reason among all who have studied those results as to why they do, yet YOU won't even admit to it. Who is the emotionally agenda driven guy out of us again? Why do you keep sticking by this narrative that has been proven wrong about 50,000 times??
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Lololol
So you again admit the differences in result do exist, yet you came to this thread crying your heart out about me being racist because I mentioned them and raised the issue of why they exist , with me already having brought up multiple times the factors you discuss. and of course never once claiming any sort of innate difference as fact.
Omg such a near genius
So you again admit the differences in result do exist, yet you came to this thread crying your heart out about me being racist because I mentioned them and raised the issue of why they exist , with me already having brought up multiple times the factors you discuss. and of course never once claiming any sort of innate difference as fact.
Omg such a near genius
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You said you were open to discuss the reasons as to why, even though they have been proven time...and time..and time..and time..and time...and time.. and time.. again and you refuse to admit thats what the overwhelming evidence shows.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 21:36 Lololol
So you again admit the differences in result do exist, yet you came to this thread yelling racist because I raised the issue of why they exist , such a near genius![]()
You said there are "obvious cognitive differences"
tell me them, please, right now, tell me the obvious cognitive differences between the races, without mentioning stuff like some antiquated law school "success predictor" that law schools are not even using anymore because it's so ineffective and rigged towards rich white people.
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I am open to discussing and considering explanations, yep, totally true and I haven't tried to censor or shame anyone in this thread for an explanation as to explain why the differences exist. I didn't come out moaning and crying at the mere raising of the issue either, that's left to the easily predicted emotional babies, the longer this goes the more of a perfect example of my point you become
Yep, there certainly are clear differences that you've acknowledged when it comes to several tests that assess mental performances.. I factually note those differences and question why they exist, you give a reason that I'd already even mentioned before you bumped the thread, yet waah I'm so racist and lying about everything
Yep, there certainly are clear differences that you've acknowledged when it comes to several tests that assess mental performances.. I factually note those differences and question why they exist, you give a reason that I'd already even mentioned before you bumped the thread, yet waah I'm so racist and lying about everything
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Actually i had forgot what it was about has well ,,, So ,, I'm gonna put my can of diet coke , and my extra large bag of popcorn down and explain something to both of them
1--- Maoris , Tongans , generally south pacific people are on the whole better rugby players than most , cos they live it , eat breath and shit rugby from being a kid .
2 Cubans used to lead the world in ameteur boxing , simply because , there top ameteurs are treated like god and live better than the average guy , make the team and win medals its movie star status . , They also had a lot of rules changed to suit there style of boxing , electronic scoring ect , , now there not flavor of the month there still good but not has good , and lets not forget there top guys were not ameteurs they were pro's , just did'nt get million dollar pay cheques ,
3-- Mexicans do very well , are the hispanics tougher and better , doubt it , they just box more has a way out of poverty
4 Has pointed out before by someone , these icelanders , do better in strong man comps cos they want to do them ,
Now us poor buggers in OZ we don't really rate to high in boxing , but dispite having a smaller population than say Gr Britain , we usually kick there ass in swimming , why's that , Oh i know perhaps its because Aussie or at least 90% of them live near coastal waters , rivers and all seem to have an affinity with water . In fact in a couple of hrs were al packed up and going off for the rest of the week , to be joined by my grandkids , at weekend who will be towed behind my boat skiing and when there not skiing they will probably be kayaking or just swinging of the tree's into the water , so is it any wonder Aussies do well .
4 Suppose you can also take into account some govts put money into sports some do not , I think i've made my point on sportsmen and women .
Now lests talk about Brains , well i've done my own studies , and did'nt even have to leave the room , , Down my local hospital , there are very few black doctors , but Aust is'nt a country with a huge black population , theres more white nurses ,than any other demographic , but i think it would be 50-50 asian and white doctors , ,,, Take into account most of the servo's and grocery stores , are now being took over by Asians , , i deduce that Asians have more brains than the average Aussie ,
After all Australia is'nt a Asian country its Australian , but Asians have a high percentage of doctors , specelists , shop owners , servo owners , and growing .
But i suppose you could say from a early age Asians are pushed by there parents to get educated , and succeed , , so all in all i think this thread has turned into a lot of bollocks , , Its all simple answers , really to what was never a problem in the first place
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Easily the most sensible post over the last few pages and not even a tin foil hat or amateur Darwinian in sight! ![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
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No one ever talks about long muscles any more.
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Strange strange personmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 19:12 Only someone driven by their fragile emotions would just immediately close themselves off and not be open to something or willing to change their views if the evidence gave reason to be. Being rationale involves that instead of throwing a temper tantrum and throwing around the same old tired cries of racism. Of course I'll consider evidence presented and not be an emotional baby about it. One thing I'll give you, you sure excel in that later role, and at missing the fine points![]()
Of course, athletic differences are all good though right, case in point provided by the almost genius![]()
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I think Coneye talks a lot of sense has well.
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I see what you did , there .
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Ya, rationality and willingness to debate without immediately yelling racism must be strange to youdanconnollyeire wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 05:36Strange strange personmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 19:12 Only someone driven by their fragile emotions would just immediately close themselves off and not be open to something or willing to change their views if the evidence gave reason to be. Being rationale involves that instead of throwing a temper tantrum and throwing around the same old tired cries of racism. Of course I'll consider evidence presented and not be an emotional baby about it. One thing I'll give you, you sure excel in that later role, and at missing the fine points![]()
Of course, athletic differences are all good though right, case in point provided by the almost genius![]()
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Post of the year. Well saidconeye wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:02 But what is intelligence ,, Is it the ability to score high on a IQ test ,, the ability to know more about the life cycle of an imaginary virus on mars , tHE ABILITY TO STRIP A CAR ENGINE DOWN AND REBUILD IT .
I myself i have said on here in the past , i only had a limited education , whilst others were at school i was wagging it and running around playing on the canals , , at 13 when other kids were tucked up in bed getting a good nights BO BO'S I was running around on factory roofs knicking the lead , did'nt have the conventional childhood , at 14 i was'nt at school studying for my masters degree in what i considered shite , i was at work .
Now on the odd occasion on here ,and another forum or two , some have alluded to my poor spelling, generally people who i suppose are more intellegent , or presume they are , , BUT like i said i never had a proper formal schooling after the age of 13 , i learnt basics , Now long division i could'nt do it then or now , teacher said whats 265 divided by 10 , i got frustrated , angry and embarressed because i could'nt work it out .. YET when we knicked lead of a roof and got a older boy usually one of my cousins to weigh it in , by christ i could work out what my share was in a second .
Fast forward a lot of years , and i look back on life and i've travelled the world run my own buisness , employed at one stage up to 25-27 people , and retrired has a self funded retireee at 10 years younger than the pension age , and i still can't do long division , , but what i could do was read upside down , a trick i learnt from when i was in meettings and would read what was in front of them without them knowing ,,, what i did have was the ability to coax out of someone , what they were willing to pay and if i was in with a chance of getting the job , without them knowing . I could and still can meet , analyise , and read a personality within seconds , , I could and still can , walk in a gym watch for a few days and say to a trainer that kid over there is gonna give up , that one will fight to the death , and very rarely be wrong .
Intellegence is not all about marks on a peice of paper and who can score 10 out of 10 , I'm relativly dumb about a lot of things , purely because i have no interest in them , but i can read personalities like graduates read a book , i can't rebuild a car engine , but i'm smart enough to not try ,
I think intellegence is the ability to understand what you are what you got , and work with it , a smart man KNOWS his LIMITATIONS , and works around them