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BoxingBarber
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Hand Wrapping

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There are many styles and most based on the individuals hand condition ect.

Noticed a lad getting his hands wrapped by a well known figure and that tape was applied to the hands prior to gauze (nothing over knuckles) I thought this wasnt allowed by the BBBOC ??

Any hand wrappers on here that could shed any light on this ? What difference would that make in regards advantage and if it is indeed not allowed why might that be ?
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A guy from a friends gym owns a company that supplies all wrapping products. Quite big as well.
Wrapping hands is a specialist job.
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Hi mate, I’m a hand wrapper, along with cuts those are the main fields what I have taken so much time to practise, learn/develop & specialise in more so over the last 15yrs working with professional boxers even over my training and managing of fighters has it always intrigued and interested me from even a young boy.

It is not illegal in uk to put a layer of tape on boxers hand first before gauze, you are not allowed at any point though to apply tape around or across the knuckles at all, it is usually about a 1 inch above the knuckle line.

most apply a bit of tape first to bind the small bones in your hand before applying the gauze and do it if lads have hand injuries. You are not allowed to layer the wraps though I.e tape, gauze, tape, gauze or had any water or wet substance to the wraps

The whole idea of hand wrapping correctly is to stabilise and secure all the small bones (carpals) and joints in the hand and wrist and distribute evenly the impact when punching to limit the small bones/joints breaking or becoming damaged from repeated blows has the hands are not designed for that just like the rest of the human body isn’t for the sport, hence the wrapping and conditioning to prepare you as best has possible for the noble art.

It is important to make sure especially numerous areas are correctly covered and secure, 1: the wrist ( one of worst injuries in hand is breaking scaphoid bone in wrist, can happen easily from delivering uppercuts 2: the thumb ( sticks out and can be jarred or damaged easily, and like with wrist the scaphoid bone sits above where the thumb area joins the wrist just below the radius, 3: the knuckles (padded to again absorb impact and stop small bones (carpals) in back of hand breaking from blows, 4: the outside of the hand ( not every punch will be turned over and delivered correctly so make sure small/outside finger and hand is padded, those are the 4 main areas a boxer will suffer damage so very important to make sure these areas are protected and firmly secured.

Imo it wouldn’t name no difference in the aspect of giving a advantage over opponent but like a good cutman a good handwrapper can make your hands feel comfortable and solid like bricks, it is important to remember not to do wraps or tape too tight nor too loose has both are useless, too tight and has boxers hands naturally swell with the blood flow, heat and with them clenching their fists before the continuous impacting it will start to give a pins and needles feeling before the boxer eventually looses all feeling in their hands which you obviously can’t have and too loose or not wrapped correctly and the whole hand wrap is pointless has it won’t do it’s job for what it’s designed to do.

One bit of important information to know for anyone on here who’s lads may have any hand injuries get in touch with Mr Mike Hayton, he is based at the spire hospital, Manchester in the north west, he is a consultant trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, specialising in hand, wrist, elbows, he is also a lecturer and speaker to other surgeons, Drs, not only in uk but Europe & even America, he is also senior lecturer for students at Liverpool university and Salford university in bone cell research, I’ve known him and taken many lads to him for years and imo he is the best in the uk to go and see if your lads have any problems in that area

Obviously I don’t know everything and even after all these years are still learning and others maybe able to offer more insight but i hope this little bit of information helps mate
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Boxingcutsman wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 19:40 Hi mate, I’m a hand wrapper, along with cuts those are the main fields what I have taken so much time to practise, learn/develop & specialise in more so over the last 15yrs working with professional boxers even over my training and managing of fighters has it always intrigued and interested me from even a young boy.

It is not illegal in uk to put a layer of tape on boxers hand first before gauze, you are not allowed at any point though to apply tape around or across the knuckles at all, it is usually about a 1 inch above the knuckle line.

most apply a bit of tape first to bind the small bones in your hand before applying the gauze and do it if lads have hand injuries. You are not allowed to layer the wraps though I.e tape, gauze, tape, gauze or had any water or wet substance to the wraps

The whole idea of hand wrapping correctly is to stabilise and secure all the small bones (carpals) and joints in the hand and wrist and distribute evenly the impact when punching to limit the small bones/joints breaking or becoming damaged from repeated blows has the hands are not designed for that just like the rest of the human body isn’t for the sport, hence the wrapping and conditioning to prepare you as best has possible for the noble art.

It is important to make sure especially numerous areas are correctly covered and secure, 1: the wrist ( one of worst injuries in hand is breaking scaphoid bone in wrist, can happen easily from delivering uppercuts 2: the thumb ( sticks out and can be jarred or damaged easily, and like with wrist the scaphoid bone sits above where the thumb area joins the wrist just below the radius, 3: the knuckles (padded to again absorb impact and stop small bones (carpals) in back of hand breaking from blows, 4: the outside of the hand ( not every punch will be turned over and delivered correctly so make sure small/outside finger and hand is padded, those are the 4 main areas a boxer will suffer damage so very important to make sure these areas are protected and firmly secured.

Imo it wouldn’t name no difference in the aspect of giving a advantage over opponent but like a good cutman a good handwrapper can make your hands feel comfortable and solid like bricks, it is important to remember not to do wraps or tape too tight nor too loose has both are useless, too tight and has boxers hands naturally swell with the blood flow, heat and with them clenching their fists before the continuous impacting it will start to give a pins and needles feeling before the boxer eventually looses all feeling in their hands which you obviously can’t have and too loose or not wrapped correctly and the whole hand wrap is pointless has it won’t do it’s job for what it’s designed to do.

One bit of important information to know for anyone on here who’s lads may have any hand injuries get in touch with Mr Mike Hayton, he is based at the spire hospital, Manchester in the north west, he is a consultant trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, specialising in hand, wrist, elbows, he is also a lecturer and speaker to other surgeons, Drs, not only in uk but Europe & even America, he is also senior lecturer for students at Liverpool university and Salford university in bone cell research, I’ve known him and taken many lads to him for years and imo he is the best in the uk to go and see if your lads have any problems in that area

Obviously I don’t know everything and even after all these years are still learning and others maybe able to offer more insight but i hope this little bit of information helps mate

Cheers bud, 10/10 for that post. Really informative.

What if it’s at the hobby/low amateur level? Any tips for just using bandage wraps and sparring regularly? *Touch wood* I never have any serious problems but I’m training more and hitting harder all the time and don’t want it to even start.
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Boxingcutsman wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 19:40 Hi mate, I’m a hand wrapper, along with cuts those are the main fields what I have taken so much time to practise, learn/develop & specialise in more so over the last 15yrs working with professional boxers even over my training and managing of fighters has it always intrigued and interested me from even a young boy.

It is not illegal in uk to put a layer of tape on boxers hand first before gauze, you are not allowed at any point though to apply tape around or across the knuckles at all, it is usually about a 1 inch above the knuckle line.

most apply a bit of tape first to bind the small bones in your hand before applying the gauze and do it if lads have hand injuries. You are not allowed to layer the wraps though I.e tape, gauze, tape, gauze or had any water or wet substance to the wraps

The whole idea of hand wrapping correctly is to stabilise and secure all the small bones (carpals) and joints in the hand and wrist and distribute evenly the impact when punching to limit the small bones/joints breaking or becoming damaged from repeated blows has the hands are not designed for that just like the rest of the human body isn’t for the sport, hence the wrapping and conditioning to prepare you as best has possible for the noble art.

It is important to make sure especially numerous areas are correctly covered and secure, 1: the wrist ( one of worst injuries in hand is breaking scaphoid bone in wrist, can happen easily from delivering uppercuts 2: the thumb ( sticks out and can be jarred or damaged easily, and like with wrist the scaphoid bone sits above where the thumb area joins the wrist just below the radius, 3: the knuckles (padded to again absorb impact and stop small bones (carpals) in back of hand breaking from blows, 4: the outside of the hand ( not every punch will be turned over and delivered correctly so make sure small/outside finger and hand is padded, those are the 4 main areas a boxer will suffer damage so very important to make sure these areas are protected and firmly secured.

Imo it wouldn’t name no difference in the aspect of giving a advantage over opponent but like a good cutman a good handwrapper can make your hands feel comfortable and solid like bricks, it is important to remember not to do wraps or tape too tight nor too loose has both are useless, too tight and has boxers hands naturally swell with the blood flow, heat and with them clenching their fists before the continuous impacting it will start to give a pins and needles feeling before the boxer eventually looses all feeling in their hands which you obviously can’t have and too loose or not wrapped correctly and the whole hand wrap is pointless has it won’t do it’s job for what it’s designed to do.

One bit of important information to know for anyone on here who’s lads may have any hand injuries get in touch with Mr Mike Hayton, he is based at the spire hospital, Manchester in the north west, he is a consultant trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, specialising in hand, wrist, elbows, he is also a lecturer and speaker to other surgeons, Drs, not only in uk but Europe & even America, he is also senior lecturer for students at Liverpool university and Salford university in bone cell research, I’ve known him and taken many lads to him for years and imo he is the best in the uk to go and see if your lads have any problems in that area

Obviously I don’t know everything and even after all these years are still learning and others maybe able to offer more insight but i hope this little bit of information helps mate
Top man. Thank you for this very insightful and and useful information. Much appreciated
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Delta Jay wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 21:17
Boxingcutsman wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 19:40 Hi mate, I’m a hand wrapper, along with cuts those are the main fields what I have taken so much time to practise, learn/develop & specialise in more so over the last 15yrs working with professional boxers even over my training and managing of fighters has it always intrigued and interested me from even a young boy.

It is not illegal in uk to put a layer of tape on boxers hand first before gauze, you are not allowed at any point though to apply tape around or across the knuckles at all, it is usually about a 1 inch above the knuckle line.

most apply a bit of tape first to bind the small bones in your hand before applying the gauze and do it if lads have hand injuries. You are not allowed to layer the wraps though I.e tape, gauze, tape, gauze or had any water or wet substance to the wraps

The whole idea of hand wrapping correctly is to stabilise and secure all the small bones (carpals) and joints in the hand and wrist and distribute evenly the impact when punching to limit the small bones/joints breaking or becoming damaged from repeated blows has the hands are not designed for that just like the rest of the human body isn’t for the sport, hence the wrapping and conditioning to prepare you as best has possible for the noble art.

It is important to make sure especially numerous areas are correctly covered and secure, 1: the wrist ( one of worst injuries in hand is breaking scaphoid bone in wrist, can happen easily from delivering uppercuts 2: the thumb ( sticks out and can be jarred or damaged easily, and like with wrist the scaphoid bone sits above where the thumb area joins the wrist just below the radius, 3: the knuckles (padded to again absorb impact and stop small bones (carpals) in back of hand breaking from blows, 4: the outside of the hand ( not every punch will be turned over and delivered correctly so make sure small/outside finger and hand is padded, those are the 4 main areas a boxer will suffer damage so very important to make sure these areas are protected and firmly secured.

Imo it wouldn’t name no difference in the aspect of giving a advantage over opponent but like a good cutman a good handwrapper can make your hands feel comfortable and solid like bricks, it is important to remember not to do wraps or tape too tight nor too loose has both are useless, too tight and has boxers hands naturally swell with the blood flow, heat and with them clenching their fists before the continuous impacting it will start to give a pins and needles feeling before the boxer eventually looses all feeling in their hands which you obviously can’t have and too loose or not wrapped correctly and the whole hand wrap is pointless has it won’t do it’s job for what it’s designed to do.

One bit of important information to know for anyone on here who’s lads may have any hand injuries get in touch with Mr Mike Hayton, he is based at the spire hospital, Manchester in the north west, he is a consultant trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, specialising in hand, wrist, elbows, he is also a lecturer and speaker to other surgeons, Drs, not only in uk but Europe & even America, he is also senior lecturer for students at Liverpool university and Salford university in bone cell research, I’ve known him and taken many lads to him for years and imo he is the best in the uk to go and see if your lads have any problems in that area

Obviously I don’t know everything and even after all these years are still learning and others maybe able to offer more insight but i hope this little bit of information helps mate

Cheers bud, 10/10 for that post. Really informative.

What if it’s at the hobby/low amateur level? Any tips for just using bandage wraps and sparring regularly? *Touch wood* I never have any serious problems but I’m training more and hitting harder all the time and don’t want it to even start.

My pleasure mate glad it was of some use.

Yh you could always use a small amount of oxide tape on your bare hand to strengthen the bone structures and then just add your usual wraps over the top, remember to always start with the loop over your thumb and work across the back of your hand taking up any slack and pulling tight, if you start the wrap underneath your hand rather than across the back of your hand and away from you then the wrap becomes loose and is therefore useless and you might has well just not use anything has it will be just as useful, practise makes perfect and just keep trying, everyone’s hands are different and prefer more or less or done a certain way do just keep practising until you find what feels right and is best for you, but I would always recommend to make sure the point I’ve made in this reply and the first post above are adhered too as they are the most important for protection
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Muttley wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 05:34
Boxingcutsman wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 19:40 Hi mate, I’m a hand wrapper, along with cuts those are the main fields what I have taken so much time to practise, learn/develop & specialise in more so over the last 15yrs working with professional boxers even over my training and managing of fighters has it always intrigued and interested me from even a young boy.

It is not illegal in uk to put a layer of tape on boxers hand first before gauze, you are not allowed at any point though to apply tape around or across the knuckles at all, it is usually about a 1 inch above the knuckle line.

most apply a bit of tape first to bind the small bones in your hand before applying the gauze and do it if lads have hand injuries. You are not allowed to layer the wraps though I.e tape, gauze, tape, gauze or had any water or wet substance to the wraps

The whole idea of hand wrapping correctly is to stabilise and secure all the small bones (carpals) and joints in the hand and wrist and distribute evenly the impact when punching to limit the small bones/joints breaking or becoming damaged from repeated blows has the hands are not designed for that just like the rest of the human body isn’t for the sport, hence the wrapping and conditioning to prepare you as best has possible for the noble art.

It is important to make sure especially numerous areas are correctly covered and secure, 1: the wrist ( one of worst injuries in hand is breaking scaphoid bone in wrist, can happen easily from delivering uppercuts 2: the thumb ( sticks out and can be jarred or damaged easily, and like with wrist the scaphoid bone sits above where the thumb area joins the wrist just below the radius, 3: the knuckles (padded to again absorb impact and stop small bones (carpals) in back of hand breaking from blows, 4: the outside of the hand ( not every punch will be turned over and delivered correctly so make sure small/outside finger and hand is padded, those are the 4 main areas a boxer will suffer damage so very important to make sure these areas are protected and firmly secured.

Imo it wouldn’t name no difference in the aspect of giving a advantage over opponent but like a good cutman a good handwrapper can make your hands feel comfortable and solid like bricks, it is important to remember not to do wraps or tape too tight nor too loose has both are useless, too tight and has boxers hands naturally swell with the blood flow, heat and with them clenching their fists before the continuous impacting it will start to give a pins and needles feeling before the boxer eventually looses all feeling in their hands which you obviously can’t have and too loose or not wrapped correctly and the whole hand wrap is pointless has it won’t do it’s job for what it’s designed to do.

One bit of important information to know for anyone on here who’s lads may have any hand injuries get in touch with Mr Mike Hayton, he is based at the spire hospital, Manchester in the north west, he is a consultant trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, specialising in hand, wrist, elbows, he is also a lecturer and speaker to other surgeons, Drs, not only in uk but Europe & even America, he is also senior lecturer for students at Liverpool university and Salford university in bone cell research, I’ve known him and taken many lads to him for years and imo he is the best in the uk to go and see if your lads have any problems in that area

Obviously I don’t know everything and even after all these years are still learning and others maybe able to offer more insight but i hope this little bit of information helps mate
Top man. Thank you for this very insightful and and useful information. Much appreciated
Your welcome, Glad it was of some use mate
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Boxingcutsman wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 05:49
Delta Jay wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 21:17


Cheers bud, 10/10 for that post. Really informative.

What if it’s at the hobby/low amateur level? Any tips for just using bandage wraps and sparring regularly? *Touch wood* I never have any serious problems but I’m training more and hitting harder all the time and don’t want it to even start.

My pleasure mate glad it was of some use.

Yh you could always use a small amount of oxide tape on your bare hand to strengthen the bone structures and then just add your usual wraps over the top, remember to always start with the loop over your thumb and work across the back of your hand taking up any slack and pulling tight, if you start the wrap underneath your hand rather than across the back of your hand and away from you then the wrap becomes loose and is therefore useless and you might has well just not use anything has it will be just as useful, practise makes perfect and just keep trying, everyone’s hands are different and prefer more or less or done a certain way do just keep practising until you find what feels right and is best for you, but I would always recommend to make sure the point I’ve made in this reply and the first post above are adhered too as they are the most important for protection
I’ve been wrapping round my fingers a few times to make a pad, then fixing that across my knuckles, then wrapping as normal from there. The thumb loop doesn’t get used but the wrap does go in that direction across the back of my hand. Is that not smart?
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Great posts on here from boxingcutsman.
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Boxing Cutsman

I really appreciate your time and sharing of knowledge mate many thanks
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BoxingBarber wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 08:08 Boxing Cutsman

I really appreciate your time and sharing of knowledge mate many thanks
Your very welcome mate
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JimStone wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 07:42 Great posts on here from boxingcutsman.
Thanks mate
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Delta Jay wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 06:47
Boxingcutsman wrote: 03 Oct 2019, 05:49


My pleasure mate glad it was of some use.

Yh you could always use a small amount of oxide tape on your bare hand to strengthen the bone structures and then just add your usual wraps over the top, remember to always start with the loop over your thumb and work across the back of your hand taking up any slack and pulling tight, if you start the wrap underneath your hand rather than across the back of your hand and away from you then the wrap becomes loose and is therefore useless and you might has well just not use anything has it will be just as useful, practise makes perfect and just keep trying, everyone’s hands are different and prefer more or less or done a certain way do just keep practising until you find what feels right and is best for you, but I would always recommend to make sure the point I’ve made in this reply and the first post above are adhered too as they are the most important for protection
I’ve been wrapping round my fingers a few times to make a pad, then fixing that across my knuckles, then wrapping as normal from there. The thumb loop doesn’t get used but the wrap does go in that direction across the back of my hand. Is that not smart?

A simpler way to make a pad for your knuckles to use in the gym and for sparring is just go to the chemist and buy a pack of cotton wool pleats there only about £1 for a pack, place 1 or 2 pleats across your knuckles (however many is/feels best for you) and just wrap over them, also you will find by keep going over the pleats it creates a good bar across underneath of knuckles to grip which also helps make your fist more rigid, the pleats cheap and very effective, I would definitely start from the thumb with your wrap and make sure it’s correctly secure mate, it’s important, and yes always start across back of hand and away from you and never underhand first
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