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jujigatame wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 20:40 All I have to say is that you have a bit of a superiority complex and bringing up what the sanctioning bodies do does not help your case in the slightest. The fundamental strength of the BoxRec system is that it knows sanctioning bodies are worthless, and that arbitrary cutoffs (in terms of "top 50" or "top 100") are not meaningful because their quality is highly variable depending on weight class and time period.

I'm not prepared to say that your rankings or BoxRec's are superior right now, because I haven't examined yours in detail. It's possible the rankings they create right now are better. But what I am saying is that your system is fundamentally flawed in a way BoxRec's is not.
One thing that Lennox does, is pick and choose which decisions he does not agree with.... then incorporate this into his ratings. Another tricky game.
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JCS wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 15:30
jujigatame wrote: 28 Aug 2019, 20:40 All I have to say is that you have a bit of a superiority complex and bringing up what the sanctioning bodies do does not help your case in the slightest. The fundamental strength of the BoxRec system is that it knows sanctioning bodies are worthless, and that arbitrary cutoffs (in terms of "top 50" or "top 100") are not meaningful because their quality is highly variable depending on weight class and time period.

I'm not prepared to say that your rankings or BoxRec's are superior right now, because I haven't examined yours in detail. It's possible the rankings they create right now are better. But what I am saying is that your system is fundamentally flawed in a way BoxRec's is not.
Then study them before getting your crayons out

One thing that Lennox does, is pick and choose which decisions he does not agree with.... then incorporate this into his ratings. Another tricky game.
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Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:13
JCS wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 15:30 Then study them before getting your crayons out

One thing that Lennox does, is pick and choose which decisions he does not agree with.... then incorporate this into his ratings. Another tricky game.
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Lies? Didn't you dismiss the Donaire win over Burnett?
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I don't pick and choose, there are rules. That fight was won on an injury. Burnett was ahead. It becomes a non tag situation.
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Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:39 I don't pick and choose, there are rules. That fight was won on an accidental injury. Burnett was ahead. It becomes a non tag situation.
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Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:40
Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:39 I don't pick and choose, there are rules. That fight was won on an accidental injury. Burnett was ahead. It becomes a non tag situation.
I have your back. I remember Horn was ranked highest after his win over Pac. But I believe you need proof before putting an * near the win. That decision was full of controversy and I believe someone sent you a link and after that you amended the WW rankings. Horn moved down a few and you put an * near the Pac win.
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Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:39 I don't pick and choose, there are rules. That fight was won on an injury. Burnett was ahead. It becomes a non tag situation.
What are the rules? That was a close fight before the injury..I could see if it was absolute domination, but it wasn't...
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 19:17
Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:40
I have your back. I remember Horn was ranked highest after his win over Pac. But I believe you need proof before putting an * near the win. That decision was full of controversy and I believe someone sent you a link and after that you amended the WW rankings. Horn moved down a few and you put an * near the Pac win.
That is correct, somebody pointed out that 76% of the press scored it for Pac. So the points calc was changed, that is just being honest. Pac still lost though we dont change the result.
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JCS wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 19:32
Lennox wrote: 29 Aug 2019, 16:39 I don't pick and choose, there are rules. That fight was won on an injury. Burnett was ahead. It becomes a non tag situation.
What are the rules? That was a close fight before the injury..I could see if it was absolute domination, but it wasn't...
from memory, Burnett was well ahead until something happened to a muscle or something and he stopped towards the end of the round, it was not from a punch.
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- Tis the silly season again when the Boxrec updates put Floyd and Manny #1 & 2 Alltime P4P that generated a ton of publicity for Boxrec, some good, and some bad.

I've noticed a narrowing of the gap between Boxrec and Ring over these past few years as the panel members no doubt check out Boxrec for this, that, and their ratings that has seemingly influenced their thinking. And as most all agree that Boxrec is the best thing for boxing fans since the inception of the squared ring, I'd like to toss out this bit of fetid data lifted from Floyd and Manny recent fights that makes no sense. It's stuff like this that causes fans to scratch their noggins and dismiss Boxrec.

And no need to explain the part of the algorithm that causes these results as no need for me to bother understanding a formula under perennial revision when I don't have any say in what is chosen. However, it would seem intuitively clear that whatever in the formula that causes these results needs to be corrected for credibility's sake:

Manny's last fight against Thurman left fans raving over the class and grit Manny showed against a guy who was not so long ago before surgery and recovery was on everyone's P4P list and still undefeated during his return to the ring.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/788305/2353535

So, Manny lost significant points by winning over Thurman while Thurman gained significant points.

Floyd's last fight against a sanctioned boxer, Berto left fans bored if not disgusted. Berto had lost 3 of his last 6 with one being a viscous KO by a journeyman and shoulda been nowhere in the ratings ball park as compared to Thurman.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/716316/1988614

So, Floyd gained significant points for fighting an inferior opponent compared to Manny while Berto holds even points while taking a loss. And to compound this obvious error, when Floyd fights a debutante and wins, his points remain even while Conor remains zero from his zero beginnings.

:KO: ??? :stop:
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 12:21 - Tis the silly season again when the Boxrec updates put Floyd and Manny #1 & 2 Alltime P4P that generated a ton of publicity for Boxrec, some good, and some bad.

I've noticed a narrowing of the gap between Boxrec and Ring over these past few years as the panel members no doubt check out Boxrec for this, that, and their ratings that has seemingly influenced their thinking. And as most all agree that Boxrec is the best thing for boxing fans since the inception of the squared ring, I'd like to toss out this bit of fetid data lifted from Floyd and Manny recent fights that makes no sense. It's stuff like this that causes fans to scratch their noggins and dismiss Boxrec.

And no need to explain the part of the algorithm that causes these results as no need for me to bother understanding a formula under perennial revision when I don't have any say in what is chosen. However, it would seem intuitively clear that whatever in the formula that causes these results needs to be corrected for credibility's sake:

Manny's last fight against Thurman left fans raving over the class and grit Manny showed against a guy who was not so long ago before surgery and recovery was on everyone's P4P list and still undefeated during his return to the ring.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/788305/2353535

So, Manny lost significant points by winning over Thurman while Thurman gained significant points.

Floyd's last fight against a sanctioned boxer, Berto left fans bored if not disgusted. Berto had lost 3 of his last 6 with one being a viscous KO by a journeyman and shoulda been nowhere in the ratings ball park as compared to Thurman.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/716316/1988614

So, Floyd gained significant points for fighting an inferior opponent compared to Manny while Berto holds even points while taking a loss. And to compound this obvious error, when Floyd fights a debutante and wins, his points remain even while Conor remains zero from his zero beginnings.

:KO: ??? :stop:
Floyd Mayweather Jr defeated Berto clearly on points, who was in the P4P Top100 at that time. While Manny Pacquiao had a close SD against Thurman and so lost points against the lower rated Thurman.

Floyd Mayweather Jr TKOed McGregor, who had no proboxing fights before. So Mayweather lost no points and McGregor didn't win any.
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https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Just curious as to why there aren't 10 fighters listed for each year

Also, why aren't the 80s rankings accounted for as the weight division's first champions were in '87 and '88?
For example:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/593
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1103
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/517
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Manrae wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 02:59 https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Just curious as to why there aren't 10 fighters listed for each year

Also, why aren't the 80s rankings accounted for as the weight division's first champions were in '87 and '88?
For example:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/593
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1103
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/517
- There is a minimum of rating points to be listed.
- The modern weight divisions were added, as soon as at least 2 of WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF and IBO had world champions in this division.,
since 1989 ## Minimum WBC, WBA, IBF
since 1976 ## Light Flyweigt WBC, WBA
since 1982 ## Super Flyweight WBC, WBA
since i1978 ## Super Bantamweight WBC, WBA
since 1964 ## Super Featherweight WBC, WBA
since 1963 ## Light Welterweight WBC, WBA
since 1963 ## Light Middleweight WBC, WBA
since 1989 ## Super Middleweight WBC, WBA, IBF
since 1983 # Cruiserweight WBC, WBA
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computerrank wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 12:29
Manrae wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 02:59 https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

Just curious as to why there aren't 10 fighters listed for each year

Also, why aren't the 80s rankings accounted for as the weight division's first champions were in '87 and '88?
For example:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/593
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1103
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/517
- There is a minimum of rating points to be listed.
- The modern weight divisions were added, as soon as at least 2 of WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF and IBO had world champions in this division.,
since 1989 ## Minimum WBC, WBA, IBF
since 1976 ## Light Flyweigt WBC, WBA
since 1982 ## Super Flyweight WBC, WBA
since i1978 ## Super Bantamweight WBC, WBA
since 1964 ## Super Featherweight WBC, WBA
since 1963 ## Light Welterweight WBC, WBA
since 1963 ## Light Middleweight WBC, WBA
since 1989 ## Super Middleweight WBC, WBA, IBF
since 1983 # Cruiserweight WBC, WBA
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Any changes you're working on these days?
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Manrae wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 22:19 ...
Any changes you're working on these days?
https://www.remi-coulom.fr/WHR/
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computerrank wrote: 24 Sep 2019, 05:02
Manrae wrote: 21 Sep 2019, 22:19 ...
Any changes you're working on these days?
https://www.remi-coulom.fr/WHR/
Looks very promising. Can't wait :box:
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Manrae wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:18
Looks very promising. Can't wait :box:
Seems like an over-complication for a combat sport..
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JCS wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 13:11
Manrae wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 00:18

Looks very promising. Can't wait :box:
Seems like an over-complication for a combat sport..
Let's see ... not as complicated as you might think - more simple and straight. And fast ...
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in 2003, concerning Roy Jones Jr., I really think that there was an error...

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

-Why is Roy ranked at Heavyweight, when he finished the year back at 175 defending his Lt. HWY crown against Antonio Tarver? His fight with Ruiz was a one-and-done at Heavyweight.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/774820
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Manrae wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 00:49 in 2003, concerning Roy Jones Jr., I really think that there was an error...

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

-Why is Roy ranked at Heavyweight, when he finished the year back at 175 defending his Lt. HWY crown against Antonio Tarver? His fight with Ruiz was a one-and-done at Heavyweight.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/774820
This is no error.
In 2003 his win against Ruiz was rated higher than his win against Tarver.
So he was rated at Heavyweight in 2003.
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Cobwebcat wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 07:08
computerrank wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 16:27
Let's see ... not as complicated as you might think - more simple and straight. And fast ...
That’s really interesting. Would you primarily use it for the all time ratings?
It looks interesting for both the all time and the current ratings.
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computerrank wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 07:35
Manrae wrote: 27 Sep 2019, 00:49 in 2003, concerning Roy Jones Jr., I really think that there was an error...

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxR ... ht_Annuals

-Why is Roy ranked at Heavyweight, when he finished the year back at 175 defending his Lt. HWY crown against Antonio Tarver? His fight with Ruiz was a one-and-done at Heavyweight.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/774820
This is no error.
In 2003 his win against Ruiz was rated higher than his win against Tarver.
So he was rated at Heavyweight in 2003.
I see, so that's the basis for deciding which weight to place them, cool
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Whole-History Ratings Heavyweight

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First results for annual Heavyweight #1:

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1876     0.17 John J               Dwyer               
1877     0.20 Jack                 Knifton             
1878     0.18 William              Miller              
1879     0.83 John L               Sullivan            
1880     1.09 John L               Sullivan            
1881     1.20 John L               Sullivan            
1882     1.30 John L               Sullivan            
1883     1.92 Jake                 Kilrain             
1884     1.90 Patsy                Cardiff             
1885     2.42 Pat                  Killen              
1886     3.51 Frank                Slavin              
1887     4.35 Frank                Slavin              
1888     6.05 Peter                Jackson             
1889     6.56 Peter                Jackson             
1890     6.31 Peter                Jackson             
1891     8.11 Bob                  Fitzsimmons         
1892    10.87 Bob                  Fitzsimmons         
1893     8.00 Peter                Maher               
1894    10.26 Peter                Maher               
1895    10.63 Peter                Maher               
1896    14.00 Bob                  Fitzsimmons         
1897    17.46 James J              Jeffries            
1898    25.08 James J              Jeffries            
1899    34.57 James J              Jeffries            
1900    35.44 James J              Jeffries            
1901    35.54 James J              Jeffries            
1902    33.77 James J              Jeffries            
1903    27.44 James J              Jeffries            
1904    32.27 Philadelphia Jack    O'Brien             
1905    30.61 Jack                 Johnson             
1906    35.16 Jack                 Johnson             
1907    40.36 Jack                 Johnson             
1908    44.05 Jack                 Johnson             
1909    48.52 Sam                  Langford            
1910    60.17 Sam                  Langford            
1911    61.96 Sam                  Langford            
1912    61.09 Sam                  Langford            
1913    50.34 Sam                  Langford            
1914    40.89 Sam                  Langford            
1915    42.55 Jack                 Dillon              
1916    53.10 Les                  Darcy               
1917    59.96 Harry                Wills               
1918    66.34 Harry                Wills               
1919    74.90 Harry                Wills               
1920   283.68 Harry                Greb                
1921   302.49 Harry                Greb                
1922   308.36 Harry                Greb                
1923   118.36 Jack                 Dempsey             
1924   394.51 Gene                 Tunney              
1925   414.35 Gene                 Tunney              
1926   379.01 Gene                 Tunney              
1927   322.36 Gene                 Tunney              
1928   252.69 Gene                 Tunney              
1929   113.89 Tommy                Loughran            
1930   103.15 Young                Stribling           
1931    94.45 Max                  Schmeling           
1932    93.08 Maxie                Rosenbloom          
1933    90.26 Len                  Harvey              
1934   299.45 Joe                  Louis               
1935   393.04 Joe                  Louis               
1936   484.87 Joe                  Louis               
1937   569.23 Joe                  Louis               
1938   664.65 Joe                  Louis               
1939   737.07 Joe                  Louis               
1940   766.06 Joe                  Louis               
1941   779.67 Joe                  Louis               
1942   720.70 Joe                  Louis               
1943   269.72 Jimmy                Bivins              
1944   491.76 Joe                  Louis               
1945   211.33 Jimmy                Bivins              
1946   476.83 Joe                  Louis               
1947   492.03 Ezzard               Charles             
1948   495.77 Ezzard               Charles             
1949   469.98 Ezzard               Charles             
1950   364.46 Ezzard               Charles             
1951   409.89 Rocky                Marciano            
1952   482.97 Rocky                Marciano            
1953   482.16 Rocky                Marciano            
1954   433.71 Rocky                Marciano            
1955   407.48 Rocky                Marciano            
1956   249.68 Archie               Moore               
1957   204.45 Floyd                Patterson           
1958   244.14 Sonny                Liston              
1959   308.62 Sonny                Liston              
1960   325.37 Sonny                Liston              
1961   305.65 Sonny                Liston              
1962   283.98 Muhammad             Ali                 
1963   345.63 Muhammad             Ali                 
1964   422.14 Muhammad             Ali                 
1965   526.62 Muhammad             Ali                 
1966   524.60 Muhammad             Ali                 
1967   491.82 Muhammad             Ali                 
1968   186.79 Joe                  Frazier             
1969   195.75 Joe                  Frazier             
1970   380.87 Muhammad             Ali                 
1971   378.96 Muhammad             Ali                 
1972   378.96 Muhammad             Ali                 
1973   330.95 Muhammad             Ali                 
1974   292.75 Muhammad             Ali                 
1975   254.92 Muhammad             Ali                 
1976   191.52 Muhammad             Ali                 
1977   113.70 Muhammad             Ali                 
1978   148.81 Larry                Holmes              
1979   180.30 Larry                Holmes              
1980   203.22 Larry                Holmes              
1981   203.38 Larry                Holmes              
1982   197.10 Larry                Holmes              
1983   181.54 Larry                Holmes              
1984   147.76 Larry                Holmes              
1985   145.43 Michael              Spinks              
1986   163.39 Mike                 Tyson               
1987   215.37 Mike                 Tyson               
1988   228.47 Mike                 Tyson               
1989   205.70 Mike                 Tyson               
1990   195.47 Evander              Holyfield           
1991   199.49 Evander              Holyfield           
1992   222.24 Riddick              Bowe                
1993   237.26 Riddick              Bowe                
1994   255.68 Riddick              Bowe                
1995   258.53 Riddick              Bowe                
1996   218.69 Riddick              Bowe                
1997   278.78 Lennox               Lewis               
1998   293.18 Lennox               Lewis               
1999   299.25 Lennox               Lewis               
2000   297.09 Lennox               Lewis               
2001   271.88 Lennox               Lewis               
2002   269.67 Lennox               Lewis               
2003   252.63 Lennox               Lewis               
2004   229.91 Vitali               Klitschko           
2005   210.61 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2006   296.73 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2007   347.01 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2008   451.85 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2009   477.67 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2010   521.81 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2011   560.06 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2012   567.89 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2013   558.40 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2014   506.13 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2015   412.07 Wladimir             Klitschko           
2016   348.22 Anthony              Joshua              
2017   379.18 Anthony              Joshua              
2018   370.32 Anthony              Joshua              
2019   305.24 Deontay              Wilder              
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Here first results for the current ratings:

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**    1    5 Heavyweight          489762 Andy Ruiz Jr                   US  754.9  125.8
*     2    1 Heavyweight          468841 Deontay Wilder                 US  622.3  305.2
      3    2 Heavyweight          659461 Anthony Joshua                 UK  604.0  270.5
      4    3 Heavyweight          479205 Tyson Fury                     UK  549.5  219.9
      5    4 Heavyweight          318081 Alexander Povetkin             RU  483.2  152.4
      6    6 Heavyweight          569964 Dillian Whyte                  UK  421.6  110.4
      7    9 Heavyweight          498837 Jarrell Miller                 US  367.3  63.23
      8    7 Heavyweight          528949 Luis Ortiz                     CU  363.6  84.54
      9    8 Heavyweight          511850 Kubrat Pulev                   BG  339.4  77.63
     10   11 Heavyweight          512994 Adam Kownacki                  PL  247.3  59.46
     11   10 Heavyweight          613846 Joseph Parker                  NZ  226.1  63.22
     12   12 Heavyweight          381739 Dereck Chisora                 UK  193.7  53.98
**   13   30 Heavyweight          813758 Filip Hrgovic                  HR  177.3  11.71
     14   17 Heavyweight          629462 Dominic Breazeale              US  169.1  25.28
     15   16 Heavyweight          503964 Oscar Rivas                    CO  152.8  33.05
     16   22 Heavyweight          475159 Christian Hammer               DE  143.5  19.57
     17   19 Heavyweight          621653 Gerald Washington              US  135.3  22.00
     18   14 Heavyweight          811429 Joe Joyce                      UK  125.6  46.41
     19   20 Heavyweight          631078 Charles Martin                 US  125.0  21.84
     20   28 Heavyweight          483755 David Price                    UK  123.5  12.77
**   21   45 Heavyweight          768670 Evgeny Romanov                 RU  122.0  7.321
     22   13 Heavyweight          640268 Michael Hunter                 US  121.9  46.97
     23   23 Heavyweight           14883 Tomasz Adamek                  PL  116.9  17.58
     24   21 Heavyweight          643611 Hughie Fury                    UK  114.9  20.71
     25   15 Heavyweight          280342 Marco Huck                     DE  96.99  40.55
     26   27 Heavyweight          804221 Efe Ajagba                     NG  91.54  13.51
     27   24 Heavyweight          355273 Carlos Takam                   FR  89.63  17.28
     28   33 Heavyweight          787430 Daniel Dubois                  UK  88.03  10.70
     29   26 Heavyweight          575332 Agit Kabayel                   DE  74.50  15.45
     30   31 Heavyweight          733157 Simon Kean                     CA  72.72  11.39
     31   60 Heavyweight          741417 Petar Milas                    HR  71.65  4.825
     32   32 Heavyweight          473857 Artur Szpilka                  PL  66.68  11.06
     33   53 Heavyweight          630710 David Allen                    UK  63.43  6.052
     34   29 Heavyweight          451505 Robert Helenius                FI  59.90  12.50
     35   52 Heavyweight          387871 Eric Molina                    US  59.79  6.502
*    36   18 Heavyweight          529630 Bryant Jennings                US  55.66  22.36
     37   42 Heavyweight          489046 Lucas Browne                   AU  55.12  7.991
     38   41 Heavyweight          324806 Bermane Stiverne               US  52.83  8.016
     39   39 Heavyweight          681602 Martin Bakole Ilunga           CD  51.11  8.851
     40   35 Heavyweight          212248 Chris Arreola                  US  50.49  9.794
     41   51 Heavyweight          545749 Erkan Teper                    DE  47.92  6.524
     42   38 Heavyweight          795843 Tony Yoka                      FR  46.19  9.048
     43   25 Heavyweight          703923 Sergey Kuzmin                  RU  45.86  15.78
     44   56 Heavyweight          734408 Lukasz Rozanski                PL  45.45  5.051
     45   71 Heavyweight          775950 Ali Eren Demirezen             TR  44.70  3.758
     46   64 Heavyweight          651121 Otto Wallin                    SE  42.76  4.285
     47   37 Heavyweight          219370 Andrey Fedosov                 RU  42.02  9.187
     48   46 Heavyweight          309799 Mariusz Wach                   PL  38.88  7.157
**   49  201 Heavyweight          601830 Mario Heredia                  MX  36.91  .754 
**   50  105 Heavyweight           32364 Samuel Peter                   US  34.99  1.967
     51   62 Heavyweight          512687 Joey Dawejko                   US  34.87  4.412
**   52  114 Heavyweight          763287 Mladen Miljas                  CA  33.81  1.682
     53   48 Heavyweight           79357 Alexander Dimitrenko           DE  33.19  7.121
     54   67 Heavyweight          719466 Shawndell Terell Winters       US  30.46  4.145
     55   70 Heavyweight          574621 Dillon Carman                  CA  30.38  3.923
     56   91 Heavyweight          682283 Alexander Frank                DE  30.12  2.500
     57   36 Heavyweight          655566 Tom Schwarz                    DE  30.00  9.755
     58   43 Heavyweight          739980 Nathan Gorman                  UK  27.65  7.524
     59   76 Heavyweight          261205 Alex Leapai                    AU  24.60  3.416
     60   58 Heavyweight          374937 Andriy Rudenko                 UA  23.88  4.913
     61   54 Heavyweight           23704 Amir Mansour                   US  23.66  5.981
     62   72 Heavyweight          510397 Arnold Gjergjaj                CH  23.14  3.692
     63   47 Heavyweight          352748 Victor Emilio Ramirez          AR  23.07  7.127
     64   40 Heavyweight          716569 Jermaine Franklin              US  22.94  8.209
**   65  182 Heavyweight          746744 Sergiej Werwejko               PL  22.36  .930 
**   66  141 Heavyweight             451 Oliver McCall                  US  22.26  1.340
     67   63 Heavyweight          814335 Frank Sanchez Faure            CU  21.99  4.337
*    68   34 Heavyweight          314868 Alexander Ustinov              RU  21.80  10.37
     69   79 Heavyweight          664204 Umut Camkiran                  TR  19.42  3.075
     70   69 Heavyweight          713216 Tyrone Spong                   NL  19.05  4.081
     71   74 Heavyweight          813592 Ivan Dychko                    KZ  18.70  3.595
     72   50 Heavyweight          742693 Junior Fa                      NZ  17.69  6.705
     73   66 Heavyweight          343636 Travis Kauffman                US  17.49  4.179
     74   57 Heavyweight          284612 Chazz Witherspoon              US  16.54  4.984
     75   55 Heavyweight          632393 Robert Alfonso                 CU  15.38  5.065
**   76  163 Heavyweight           15726 Dominick Guinn                 US  15.31  1.048
     77   94 Heavyweight          646375 Ytalo Perea                    EC  14.26  2.349
     78  117 Heavyweight          698269 Kamil Sokolowski               UK  14.09  1.653
     79  155 Heavyweight          185947 Gonzalo Omar Basile            AR  13.97  1.171
     80   77 Heavyweight          550312 Izuagbe Ugonoh                 PL  13.62  3.395
**   81  339 Heavyweight           14165 Attila Levin                   SE  13.07  .290 
     82   61 Heavyweight          817769 Arslanbek Makhmudov            RU  13.06  4.526
     83   95 Heavyweight          521513 Raphael Tronche                FR  12.64  2.264
     84   84 Heavyweight          585454 Rodney Hernandez               US  12.24  2.778
     85  124 Heavyweight          489720 Carlos Negron                  PR  11.95  1.585
     86   68 Heavyweight          449561 Bogdan Dinu                    RO  11.91  4.113
     87  109 Heavyweight          490254 Johnny Muller                  ZA  11.56  1.883
     88  146 Heavyweight          651723 Evgenios Lazaridis             GR  11.20  1.245
     89   59 Heavyweight          622344 Jerry Forrest                  US  10.56  4.854
     90   90 Heavyweight          531663 Michael Wallisch               DE  10.38  2.506
     91   78 Heavyweight          800125 Vladyslav Sirenko              UA  9.992  3.253
     92   85 Heavyweight          672064 Stephan Shaw                   US  9.756  2.684
     93  168 Heavyweight           16778 Ray Austin                     US  9.734  1.019
     94   73 Heavyweight          422432 Iago Kiladze                   GE  9.727  3.656
     95   65 Heavyweight          727779 Oleksandr Teslenko             CA  9.540  4.242
     96  129 Heavyweight           14256 Sherman Williams               BS  9.121  1.505
     97  119 Heavyweight          836567 Shigabudin Aliev               RU  9.049  1.632
     98  134 Heavyweight          469065 Elvis Moyo                     ZW  8.954  1.454
     99  115 Heavyweight          678288 Trey Lippe                     US  8.771  1.674
    100  162 Heavyweight          396836 Tshibuabua Kalonga             CD  8.276  1.060
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      1    1 Middleweight         348759 Saul Alvarez                   MX  1637   1651 
**    2    4 Welterweight         447121 Terence Crawford               US  1489   1134 
      3    2 Middleweight         356831 Gennady Golovkin               KZ  1422   1254 
      4    3 Lightweight          659771 Vasiliy Lomachenko             UA  1301   1163 
      5    6 Welterweight         629465 Errol Spence Jr                US  1249   992.2
**    6   16 Cruiserweight        659772 Oleksandr Usyk                 UA  972.9  495.8
      7   13 Super Featherweight  553222 Miguel Berchelt                MX  917.3  520.6
**    8   26 Super Middleweight   631178 Callum Smith                   UK  890.2  367.2
      9    7 Featherweight        374624 Leo Santa Cruz                 MX  861.0  586.2
*    10    5 Welterweight           6129 Manny Pacquiao                 PH  837.5  1025 
     11    8 Light Heavyweight    505927 Sergey Kovalev                 RU  805.4  571.2
     12   14 Welterweight         472133 Shawn Porter                   US  780.4  516.0
**   13  109 Heavyweight          489762 Andy Ruiz Jr                   US  754.9  121.0
     14   17 Middleweight         432984 Daniel Jacobs                  US  709.9  477.1
     15   21 Welterweight         429442 Danny Garcia                   US  671.7  392.0
**   16   62 Light Heavyweight    679709 Oleksandr Gvozdyk              UA  660.8  203.5
**   17   34 Middleweight         471634 Jermall Charlo                 US  657.3  300.3
**   18   47 Light Heavyweight    703924 Dmitry Bivol                   RU  625.9  250.3
     19   37 Heavyweight          468841 Deontay Wilder                 US  622.3  291.3
**   20   43 Super Middleweight   588468 Chris Eubank Jr                UK  612.9  258.8
     21   20 Featherweight        479775 Gary Allen Russell Jr          US  609.9  413.8
     22   29 Super Featherweight  643387 Gervonta Davis                 US  604.3  332.8
     23   44 Heavyweight          659461 Anthony Joshua                 UK  604.0  256.7
     24   15 Featherweight        512777 Josh Warrington                UK  600.5  503.4
     25   25 Super Flyweight      467843 Juan Francisco Estrada         MX  599.3  368.8
     26   28 Welterweight         541777 Yordenis Ugas                  CU  599.0  336.4
     27   46 Cruiserweight        514537 Mairis Briedis                 LV  587.4  251.0
     28   27 Light Welterweight   632104 Jose Carlos Ramirez            US  578.8  362.0
     29   32 Light Welterweight   611370 Regis Prograis                 US  559.5  313.5
     30   33 Light Welterweight   725709 Josh Taylor                    UK  555.4  301.8
     31   55 Heavyweight          479205 Tyson Fury                     UK  549.5  218.7
     32   57 Light Middleweight   659924 Jaime Munguia                  MX  546.7  217.7
     33   24 Super Bantamweight   602423 Emanuel Navarrete              MX  544.0  372.7
*    34    9 Bantamweight         628407 Naoya Inoue                    JP  535.6  564.8
*    35   11 Welterweight         426053 Keith Thurman                  US  519.9  538.0
     36   56 Lightweight          563751 Richard Commey                 GH  509.2  218.4
**   37  129 Super Featherweight  740705 Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov          RU  506.5  107.9
     38   30 Super Flyweight      528191 Wisaksil Wangek                TH  501.4  322.2
*    39   12 Featherweight        499601 Carl Frampton                  UK  488.0  530.1
     40   22 Super Bantamweight   542148 Rey Vargas                     MX  487.0  377.6
**   41   83 Heavyweight          318081 Alexander Povetkin             RU  483.2  150.7
     42   35 Light Middleweight   457231 Erislandy Lara                 US  482.5  294.7
     43   79 Light Middleweight   536011 Julian Williams                US  481.9  155.4
     44   36 Middleweight         468433 Demetrius Andrade              US  469.7  293.9
*    45   10 Welterweight         364679 Mikey Garcia                   US  464.2  555.1
     46   61 Super Featherweight  367450 Andrew Cancio                  US  462.9  203.5
     47   40 Light Heavyweight    503963 Eleider Alvarez                CO  461.1  281.1
*    48   18 Bantamweight         611983 Luis Nery                      MX  443.3  458.7
     49   42 Light Heavyweight    509666 Gilberto Ramirez               MX  425.4  260.7
**   50  130 Heavyweight          569964 Dillian Whyte                  UK  421.6  106.6
**   51  148 Welterweight         499476 David Avanesyan                RU  416.0  96.00
     52   76 Light Middleweight   625960 Jarrett Hurd                   US  412.6  158.0
     53   58 Super Bantamweight   549073 Daniel Roman                   US  403.9  213.3
     54   41 Light Flyweight      692967 Ken Shiro                      JP  403.2  275.9
     55   39 Bantamweight          48243 Nonito Donaire                 PH  390.0  284.1
**   56  245 Middleweight         556657 Michael Zerafa                 AU  381.0  59.41
     57   49 Welterweight         314558 Amir Khan                      UK  379.7  238.8
*    58   19 Featherweight        629933 Oscar Valdez                   MX  374.3  420.2
     59   63 Lightweight          776269 Teofimo Lopez                  US  373.1  189.6
**   60  214 Welterweight         738032 Kudratillo Abdukakhorov        UZ  370.4  67.87
     61   74 Welterweight         684792 Sergey Lipinets                RU  369.9  159.7
**   62  260 Heavyweight          498837 Jarrell Miller                 US  367.3  56.80
     63   60 Light Middleweight   468475 Jessie Vargas                  US  366.8  205.9
**   64  128 Middleweight         657422 Ryota Murata                   JP  364.5  108.7
**   65  183 Heavyweight          528949 Luis Ortiz                     CU  363.6  78.92
     66   77 Light Heavyweight    610132 Jesse Hart                     US  360.7  157.2
**   67  137 Light Middleweight   574588 Tony Harrison                  US  359.7  99.98
     68  122 Light Heavyweight    290691 Jean Pascal                    CA  358.8  111.3
     69   45 Lightweight          459640 Lee Selby                      UK  356.4  256.4
     70  125 Light Middleweight   625137 Brian Carlos Castano           AR  353.7  110.5
     71   71 Light Welterweight   432621 Viktor Postol                  UA  351.4  162.2
     72  133 Light Heavyweight    497268 Badou Jack                     SE  347.8  102.9
     73   68 Lightweight          651514 Luke Campbell                  UK  345.0  164.8
     74   51 Light Welterweight   523667 Jose Zepeda                    US  343.4  230.8
     75   59 Bantamweight         359270 Zolani Tete                    ZA  343.1  212.4
*    76   23 Super Flyweight      483786 Kazuto Ioka                    JP  342.5  377.4
     77   90 Light Heavyweight    629463 Marcus Browne                  US  342.3  143.9
**   78  197 Heavyweight          511850 Kubrat Pulev                   BG  339.4  73.55
     79   81 Lightweight          741718 Devin Haney                    US  333.3  152.7
     80   89 Middleweight         691996 Sergiy Derevyanchenko          UA  332.4  144.8
     81   98 Lightweight          371746 Anthony Crolla                 UK  331.3  134.0
*    82   38 Light Middleweight   272717 Kell Brook                     UK  330.4  284.3
     83   54 Super Featherweight  562946 Tevin Farmer                   US  327.9  219.6
     84   82 Super Featherweight  140100 Miguel Roman                   MX  322.2  151.6
     85   52 Light Middleweight   433135 Jermell Charlo                 US  318.8  226.1
     86   70 Super Middleweight   482499 Billy Joe Saunders             UK  315.6  163.3
     87   99 Featherweight        665698 Can Xu                         CN  312.9  132.3
     88  147 Light Middleweight   723287 Carlos Adames                  DO  312.4  96.13
     89   75 Welterweight         455859 Adrien Broner                  US  312.3  159.0
**   90  180 Super Middleweight   545557 John Ryder                     UK  309.1  79.87
     91   53 Flyweight            666339 Kosei Tanaka                   JP  304.7  223.3
     92   48 Super Bantamweight   492989 Guillermo Rigondeaux           CU  304.0  247.4
**   93  255 Light Welterweight   352193 Pablo Cesar Cano               MX  303.4  57.28
     94  117 Light Welterweight   570403 Maurice Hooker                 US  300.9  114.1
*    95   31 Super Flyweight      215599 Donnie Nietes                  PH  294.1  321.5
     96   86 Light Middleweight   466535 Liam Smith                     UK  292.3  148.1
**   97  195 Super Middleweight   546589 Rocky Fielding                 UK  291.1  74.11
     98   73 Minimumweight        383177 Chayaphon Moonsri              TH  288.5  159.8
     99  119 Middleweight         635000 Jeff Horn                      AU  287.6  112.2
    100   64 Super Flyweight      613018 Khalid Yafai                   UK  286.5  186.4
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