Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Adonis did have Gvo rocked, but Gvo showed good recovery and knocked him out the very next round. Adonis was an elite puncher with good timing too, so getting through his shots is a good sign for Gvo.
Gvo isnt as big a puncher as Bert, but he still hits hard enough to hurt him, plus is better all around. Bert does have that KO chance but gotta edge Gvo.
That said, if you're a Bert supporter maybe you can get a bit of confidence from Bert stopping Gvo on a bloody nose in the ams. Then again, I get the feeling Bert peaked as an amateur, whereas I've seen Gvo improve as a pro.
Gvo isnt as big a puncher as Bert, but he still hits hard enough to hurt him, plus is better all around. Bert does have that KO chance but gotta edge Gvo.
That said, if you're a Bert supporter maybe you can get a bit of confidence from Bert stopping Gvo on a bloody nose in the ams. Then again, I get the feeling Bert peaked as an amateur, whereas I've seen Gvo improve as a pro.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
It appears that Beterbiev stopped Gvozdyk in amateurs.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
MODs, how did this thread get into British and Irish forum ?
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Without being disrespectful to the site, just like there's levels in boxing there's also levels in boxing forums. The British and Irish forum is far above the current scene which leaves plenty to be desired in terms of the knowledge of the posters.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:08 MODs, how did this thread get into British and Irish forum ?
Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Wow...TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:11Without being disrespectful to the site, just like there's levels in boxing there's also levels in boxing forums. The British and Irish forum is far above the current scene which leaves plenty to be desired in terms of the knowledge of the posters.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:08 MODs, how did this thread get into British and Irish forum ?
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Best Coast
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
I've got Gvozdyk by close decision.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
I started it here..boxing_rocks wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:08 MODs, how did this thread get into British and Irish forum ?
Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
It seems this isn't on UK tv? Stupidly I sort of assumed it would be. 
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Theres no way this will be on allegedly. The budget now is zero. They literally only pick up fights they get for free. I don't know why they don't wrap up the channel and save the carriage fees. Probably cause they've got a contract. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Don’t BT fund it part of their contract with FW?Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2019, 04:34 Theres no way this will be on allegedly. The budget now is zero. They literally only pick up fights they get for free. I don't know why they don't wrap up the channel and save the carriage fees. Probably cause they've got a contract. I hope I'm wrong though.
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handsofstone
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Exactly, if theres a title fight on UK TV that hasn't already been started I'll start one myself, regardless if its non British or Irish, I've been on CS about twice in as many years, I literally just went on about 5 mins ago and seen a thread saying Usyk should move back down to CruiserweightTheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:11Without being disrespectful to the site, just like there's levels in boxing there's also levels in boxing forums. The British and Irish forum is far above the current scene which leaves plenty to be desired in terms of the knowledge of the posters.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑07 Oct 2019, 19:08 MODs, how did this thread get into British and Irish forum ?
Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Beterbiev needs a fight to really get his attention and Gvozdyk fits the bill.
I think Artur will grind out a stoppage. Could be one hell of a fight on we'll have on our hands !
I think Artur will grind out a stoppage. Could be one hell of a fight on we'll have on our hands !
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
As Russia and Ukraine dominate the news, both countries have become inextricably linked to the current impeachment inquiry in Washington DC. Up the road in Philadelphia, two world champion boxers–one Russian, one Ukrainian–are preparing to meet in a light-heavyweight unification bout.
As their home countries wage war against each other, their thoughts are 5,000 miles away, focused not on the opponent’s country, but on the man he will meet in the center of the ring at Temple University’s Liacouras Center on Oct. 18. The winner will leave the ring as WBC/ IBF Light-Heavyweight Champion of the world.
Oleksandr Gvozdyk (17-0, 14 KOs) is the current WBC Light- Heavyweight Champion, having defeated Adonis Stevenson via knockout in the 11th round of their Dec., 2018, bout in Quebec, Canada. The knockout would end Stevenson’s boxing career.
IBF Light-Heavyweight Champion Artur Beterbiev (14-0, 14 KOs) defeated Gvozdyk when the two met as amateurs–Beterbiev representing Russia, Gvozdyk representing Ukraine.
Both boxers were decorated amateurs. Beterbiev had over 300 amateur fights and won gold and silver in world-level contests in Milan and Chicago. Gvozdyk had over 250 amateur bouts and won a bronze medal for Ukraine in the 2012 Olympics in London.
Gvozdyk is followed closely by those in his home country of Ukraine and Ukrainians stateside, despite moving to California five years ago to focus on his career: “One month ago, we went to the Ukrainian Festival. There were a lot of Ukrainian people there and I was surprised that a lot of them knew me. We spent a couple hours there, signing autographs and taking photos.”
Gvozdyk, whose father had a brief career as an amateur boxer in Ukraine, is living out his dream in California. “When I asked my wife to come to California with me, to leave her home, she said the most important thing is that I’m going to go with you,” Gvozdyk said of his wife, Daria. He acknowledges that it can sometimes be difficult to be away from family as the two raise a family, but the kids–two boys and one girl, ages 3-10–have traveled the world with their parents. “Our kids are the most quiet kids on the plane when they travel. They don’t cry. They know it’s pointless.” Gvozdyk lost his mother in 2014.
Politics is not a topic that Gvozdyk is anxious to discuss, going so far as to say he doesn’t know what’s happening. “It doesn’t bother me,” he said. “I’m just an athlete. I don’t want to make any parallels to the fight. I am living in California, he is living in Montreal. I just don’t know anything about it.”
“Teddy Atlas, Gvozdyk’s trainer, runs a tight ship,” said J Russell Peltz, who is co-promoting the championship fight with Top Rank. “It doesn’t surprise me that he’s not focused on what’s happening on the other side of the world.”
His opponent, Beterbiev, shared the sentiment. “Any war is bad for people, but I really don’t want to talk about it,” said the Russian, who relocated to Montreal six years ago to further his career. “It’s far from me in Canada.”
Shugurov hints at other motives at why the boxers don’t want to talk about life in the former Soviet bloc: “They are high-profile athletes and they don’t want to upset anyone. They don’t want to have problems like those that have happened with other boxers.
“Ukrainians and Russians are everywhere and they are like a network. Fighters as a whole don’t want to get involved. They want to make money and not have problems. Beterbiev, he’s Canadian now. Gvozdyk is American.”
Beterbiev’s family life nearly mirrors that of his opponent. Married with four children ages 2-8, Beterbiev lost his father to an accident when he was only sixteen. His father was just starting to enjoy his son’s career. “A couple days before he died, I won a bronze medal in a tournament. He said to me: ‘You won this fight. Now go go go. I believe in you.’”
Raising a family away from home hasn’t been easy for Beterbiev and his wife, Medena, though Beterbiev’s mother has traveled to Canada to help.
As their home countries wage war against each other, their thoughts are 5,000 miles away, focused not on the opponent’s country, but on the man he will meet in the center of the ring at Temple University’s Liacouras Center on Oct. 18. The winner will leave the ring as WBC/ IBF Light-Heavyweight Champion of the world.
Oleksandr Gvozdyk (17-0, 14 KOs) is the current WBC Light- Heavyweight Champion, having defeated Adonis Stevenson via knockout in the 11th round of their Dec., 2018, bout in Quebec, Canada. The knockout would end Stevenson’s boxing career.
IBF Light-Heavyweight Champion Artur Beterbiev (14-0, 14 KOs) defeated Gvozdyk when the two met as amateurs–Beterbiev representing Russia, Gvozdyk representing Ukraine.
Both boxers were decorated amateurs. Beterbiev had over 300 amateur fights and won gold and silver in world-level contests in Milan and Chicago. Gvozdyk had over 250 amateur bouts and won a bronze medal for Ukraine in the 2012 Olympics in London.
Gvozdyk is followed closely by those in his home country of Ukraine and Ukrainians stateside, despite moving to California five years ago to focus on his career: “One month ago, we went to the Ukrainian Festival. There were a lot of Ukrainian people there and I was surprised that a lot of them knew me. We spent a couple hours there, signing autographs and taking photos.”
Gvozdyk, whose father had a brief career as an amateur boxer in Ukraine, is living out his dream in California. “When I asked my wife to come to California with me, to leave her home, she said the most important thing is that I’m going to go with you,” Gvozdyk said of his wife, Daria. He acknowledges that it can sometimes be difficult to be away from family as the two raise a family, but the kids–two boys and one girl, ages 3-10–have traveled the world with their parents. “Our kids are the most quiet kids on the plane when they travel. They don’t cry. They know it’s pointless.” Gvozdyk lost his mother in 2014.
Politics is not a topic that Gvozdyk is anxious to discuss, going so far as to say he doesn’t know what’s happening. “It doesn’t bother me,” he said. “I’m just an athlete. I don’t want to make any parallels to the fight. I am living in California, he is living in Montreal. I just don’t know anything about it.”
“Teddy Atlas, Gvozdyk’s trainer, runs a tight ship,” said J Russell Peltz, who is co-promoting the championship fight with Top Rank. “It doesn’t surprise me that he’s not focused on what’s happening on the other side of the world.”
His opponent, Beterbiev, shared the sentiment. “Any war is bad for people, but I really don’t want to talk about it,” said the Russian, who relocated to Montreal six years ago to further his career. “It’s far from me in Canada.”
Shugurov hints at other motives at why the boxers don’t want to talk about life in the former Soviet bloc: “They are high-profile athletes and they don’t want to upset anyone. They don’t want to have problems like those that have happened with other boxers.
“Ukrainians and Russians are everywhere and they are like a network. Fighters as a whole don’t want to get involved. They want to make money and not have problems. Beterbiev, he’s Canadian now. Gvozdyk is American.”
Beterbiev’s family life nearly mirrors that of his opponent. Married with four children ages 2-8, Beterbiev lost his father to an accident when he was only sixteen. His father was just starting to enjoy his son’s career. “A couple days before he died, I won a bronze medal in a tournament. He said to me: ‘You won this fight. Now go go go. I believe in you.’”
Raising a family away from home hasn’t been easy for Beterbiev and his wife, Medena, though Beterbiev’s mother has traveled to Canada to help.
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handsofstone
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Still no word on UK TV
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Who even picks up TR cards??
I know recently it has been BT, but that was because Sky didn't want Crawford-Khan..
And also, Fury is signed with BT and was technically a TR card.
I'm stil banking on BN.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Poor form from UK broadcasters for not picking this up I truly hope a DAZN/ESPN+ model of streaming boxing launches here and leaves companies like SKY and BT red faced
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Poor quality YouTube video on Saturday morning it looks like! Unfortunate.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
I can pm you a link if you wanna watch it liveNoScoutingReports wrote: ↑15 Oct 2019, 03:56 Poor quality YouTube video on Saturday morning it looks like! Unfortunate.
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Top man.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Oct 2019, 04:57I can pm you a link if you wanna watch it liveNoScoutingReports wrote: ↑15 Oct 2019, 03:56 Poor quality YouTube video on Saturday morning it looks like! Unfortunate.![]()
Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
“Our kids are the most quiet kids on the plane when they travel. They don’t cry. They know it’s pointless.“
That’s a funny mental image. Two hard nose little Ukrainian kids sat straight faced in business class.
Now that I’m sure who I’m talking about, I’m definitely going for Gvozdyk, he beat Stevenson in nearly every department and Adonis could really box. Artur won’t have the depth to match him.
That’s a funny mental image. Two hard nose little Ukrainian kids sat straight faced in business class.
Now that I’m sure who I’m talking about, I’m definitely going for Gvozdyk, he beat Stevenson in nearly every department and Adonis could really box. Artur won’t have the depth to match him.
Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
Does anyone think Beterbiev can fight any other way ?
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
WBC stats for Friday

TOP RANK PRESENTS:
OLEKSANDR “The Nail” GVOZDYK (Ukraine)
WBC Light Heavyweight World Champion, 2nd title defense
Age: 32 / Date of birth: April 15, 1987
Residence: Camarillo, California / Birthplace: Kharkiv, Ukraine
Record: 17-0, 14 KOs / Total rounds: 88 / World championship fights: 2-0, 2 KOs
Height: 6’2.5″ – 189cm / Reach: 75.5″ – 192cm / Stance: Right-handed
Manager: Egis Klimas / Trainer: Teddy Atlas
ARTUR BETERBIEV (Russia)
IBF Light Heavyweight World Champion, 3rd title defense
Age: 34 / Date of birth: January 21, 1985
Residence: Montréal, Québec, Canada / Birthplace: Khasavyurt, Dagestan, Russia
Record: 14-0, 14 KOs / Total rounds: 52 / World championship fights: 3-0, 3 KOs
Height: 5’11.5″ – 182cm / Reach: 73″ – 185cm / Stance: Right-handed
Manager: Creative Artists Agency / Trainer: Marc Ramsay
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WBC TOP 10 LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS
1. Roy Jones Jr. (US)
2. Bernard Hopkins (US)
3. Bob Foster (US)
4. Michael Spinks (US)
5. Adonis Stevenson (Haiti/Canada)
6. Mike McCallum (Jamaica)
7. Jose Torres (Puerto Rico)
8. Dick Tiger (Nigeria)
9. Matthew Saad Muhammad (US)
10. Chad Dawson (US)

TOP RANK PRESENTS:
OLEKSANDR “The Nail” GVOZDYK (Ukraine)
WBC Light Heavyweight World Champion, 2nd title defense
Age: 32 / Date of birth: April 15, 1987
Residence: Camarillo, California / Birthplace: Kharkiv, Ukraine
Record: 17-0, 14 KOs / Total rounds: 88 / World championship fights: 2-0, 2 KOs
Height: 6’2.5″ – 189cm / Reach: 75.5″ – 192cm / Stance: Right-handed
Manager: Egis Klimas / Trainer: Teddy Atlas
ARTUR BETERBIEV (Russia)
IBF Light Heavyweight World Champion, 3rd title defense
Age: 34 / Date of birth: January 21, 1985
Residence: Montréal, Québec, Canada / Birthplace: Khasavyurt, Dagestan, Russia
Record: 14-0, 14 KOs / Total rounds: 52 / World championship fights: 3-0, 3 KOs
Height: 5’11.5″ – 182cm / Reach: 73″ – 185cm / Stance: Right-handed
Manager: Creative Artists Agency / Trainer: Marc Ramsay
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WBC TOP 10 LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS
1. Roy Jones Jr. (US)
2. Bernard Hopkins (US)
3. Bob Foster (US)
4. Michael Spinks (US)
5. Adonis Stevenson (Haiti/Canada)
6. Mike McCallum (Jamaica)
7. Jose Torres (Puerto Rico)
8. Dick Tiger (Nigeria)
9. Matthew Saad Muhammad (US)
10. Chad Dawson (US)
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - 18 October 2019
How the hell is BHop (or RJJ for that matter) rated as better light heavyweight champions than Michael Spinks and Bob Foster. The only one who possibly could be is Archie Moore