Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 12 Oct 2019, 11:12

Usyk - Decision
2
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
77%
DRAW
1
3%
Chazz - T/KO
4
13%
Chazz - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 30

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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by ewenhay »

Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 03:03
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Oct 2019, 20:14 You take things too seriously if Eddeh bothers you that much
However you want to look at it, theres zero credibility to what he's doing at the moment on many levels.
Exactly. Eddie Hearn is only interested in one thing and that's Eddie Hearn's bank balance. Everything else is disingenuous spin designed to increase Eddie Hearn's bank balance.

And to think there are some who would to tell us that Eddie Hearn is good for boxing.

Bollocks. He's no better for boxing than just about every promoter who came before and probably after him.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 03:03
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Oct 2019, 20:14 You take things too seriously if Eddeh bothers you that much
However you want to look at it, theres zero credibility to what he's doing at the moment on many levels.
nonsense !
Hearn is doing what he can to increase market share by breaking apart the US carve up that has dominated high level boxing for decades and the likes of arum et al dont like it .
I see a growing number of fighters moving to matchroom or linking up in some way , so if he or what he is doing has zero credibility then why would people inside the business choose to leave existing promoters for them.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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stevec@france wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 14:25
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 03:03

However you want to look at it, theres zero credibility to what he's doing at the moment on many levels.
nonsense !
Hearn is doing what he can to increase market share by breaking apart the US carve up that has dominated high level boxing for decades and the likes of arum et al dont like it .
I see a growing number of fighters moving to matchroom or linking up in some way , so if he or what he is doing has zero credibility then why would people inside the business choose to leave existing promoters for them.
:lol:
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by ewenhay »

stevec@france wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 14:25
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 03:03

However you want to look at it, theres zero credibility to what he's doing at the moment on many levels.
nonsense !
Hearn is doing what he can to increase market share by breaking apart the US carve up that has dominated high level boxing for decades and the likes of arum et al dont like it .
I see a growing number of fighters moving to matchroom or linking up in some way , so if he or what he is doing has zero credibility then why would people inside the business choose to leave existing promoters for them.
Fighters move for the promise of more money and fair play to them. Nobody can blame them for that.

Which dazn and those buying substandard Matchroom ppv fights which are no better than previous non ppv fights are currently paying for.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Anyone with half a brain should have figured out Spong was on juice due to :

1) his c30+ kilo gain in fighting weight since he was 19

2) his closeness to the Dutch kickboxing/MMA guys

To sign him up to a drug tested fight was only going to lead to one thing !

This was my post from the current scene a few weeks ago
knockout wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 11:29 Usyk’s heavyweight debut against a cruiserweight ! Have to give Usyk a bit of leeway due to the injury , but let’s keep it real, Spong isn’t a naturally heavyweight.

He was fighting in 79kg fights when he was 21. So that tells you a bit about his natural size .

Draw your own conclusions about the weight gain.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by handsofstone »

I remember Witherspoon as an unbeaten fighter, he fought on a few Sky cards back in the day, I used to think he was decent funnily enough, it goes without saying he ended up being bang average, the guys he lost to were decent names but he's not got a single decent win, Usyk should do him in 3 rounds unless he takes a bit longer to put his foot down
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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handsofstone wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 15:33 I remember Witherspoon as an unbeaten fighter, he fought on a few Sky cards back in the day, I used to think he was decent funnily enough, it goes without saying he ended up being bang average, the guys he lost to were decent names but he's not got a single decent win, Usyk should do him in 3 rounds unless he takes a bit longer to put his foot down
I reckon he'll want rounds , not like he won't look good even if it went long .
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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rd350lc wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 16:33
handsofstone wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 15:33 I remember Witherspoon as an unbeaten fighter, he fought on a few Sky cards back in the day, I used to think he was decent funnily enough, it goes without saying he ended up being bang average, the guys he lost to were decent names but he's not got a single decent win, Usyk should do him in 3 rounds unless he takes a bit longer to put his foot down
I reckon he'll want rounds , not like he won't look good even if it went long .
Yeah he's a clever thinking fighter Usyk but there must be some frustration there
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Has anyone said "I think Tim would have a better chance" yet?
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by ewenhay »

Datsue wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 17:31 Has anyone said "I think Tim would have a better chance" yet?
I think Reese might have a better shot too
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by handsofstone »

ewenhay wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 17:43
Datsue wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 17:31 Has anyone said "I think Tim would have a better chance" yet?
I think Reese might have a better shot too
:lol:
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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He will have a better chance Witherknife
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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I give Chazz a bit of credit, he was the one to expose Seth Mitchell and back in the day (like 10 years ago lol) he wasn't that bad. I think he was national golden gloves champ as an amateur too. I wouldn't put it past him still kicking Spong's butt.

I just want to see Usyk in the ring again basically so I'm not really arsed at this point when it comes to who he faces
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Funny enough, it says on Chazz's BoxRec bio that his current manager is Ken Norton.

Kenny doing a hell of a job working as a manager and landing Chazz this fight from the grave :lol:
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 18:04 Funny enough, it says on Chazz's BoxRec bio that his current manager is Ken Norton.

Kenny doing a hell of a job working as a manager and landing Chazz this fight from the grave :lol:
Mags, it says Capella :maybe:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/284612
At least they broke Chazz out of cryo in March for a fight. You have to go back Ten Years to see his last semi relevant opponent, which was a loss to Thompson. At least Chazz is tall (ish) :lol:
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 18:00 I give Chazz a bit of credit, he was the one to expose Seth Mitchell and back in the day (like 10 years ago lol) he wasn't that bad. I think he was national golden gloves champ as an amateur too. I wouldn't put it past him still kicking Spong's butt.

I just want to see Usyk in the ring again basically so I'm not really arsed at this point when it comes to who he faces
Mitchell Ko'd Chazz in three.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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Ya after being put on queer street himself...the writing was on the wall from there
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 21:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 18:00 I give Chazz a bit of credit, he was the one to expose Seth Mitchell and back in the day (like 10 years ago lol) he wasn't that bad. I think he was national golden gloves champ as an amateur too. I wouldn't put it past him still kicking Spong's butt.

I just want to see Usyk in the ring again basically so I'm not really arsed at this point when it comes to who he faces
Mitchell Ko'd Chazz in three.
Usyk is a slow starter. Takes his time, figures the other guy out. I laughed at the RBR for the Bellend fight. Folks were getting carried away with Tony winning the first 3, boxing out of his skin, he was :lol:
Usyk was just sussing him out.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

KiwiRider wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 22:03
oogiebe wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 21:02

Mitchell Ko'd Chazz in three.
Usyk is a slow starter. Takes his time, figures the other guy out. I laughed at the RBR for the Bellend fight. Folks were getting carried away with Tony winning the first 3, boxing out of his skin, he was :lol:
Usyk was just sussing him out.
I have Bellew the first 2, from the 3rd I had Usyk doing the job. Just because Bellew taunts in the ring doesn’t mean he wins the round lol.

I was just laughing at the Sky Commentators. The rounds Bellew won, it was of course 10-9, any round Usyk started winning it was 10-10.. that was basically Froch’s card. :lol:

Didn’t Usyk lose the first 3 rounds to Hunter aswell.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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knockout wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 14:46 Anyone with half a brain should have figured out Spong was on juice due to :

1) his c30+ kilo gain in fighting weight since he was 19

2) his closeness to the Dutch kickboxing/MMA guys

To sign him up to a drug tested fight was only going to lead to one thing !

This was my post from the current scene a few weeks ago
knockout wrote: 22 Sep 2019, 11:29 Usyk’s heavyweight debut against a cruiserweight ! Have to give Usyk a bit of leeway due to the injury , but let’s keep it real, Spong isn’t a naturally heavyweight.

He was fighting in 79kg fights when he was 21. So that tells you a bit about his natural size .

Draw your own conclusions about the weight gain.
You seem to be ignoring the fact no one knew who the fvck he was so wouldn’t have noticed
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Chazz Witherspoon - 12 October 2019

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ewenhay wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 17:43
Datsue wrote: 09 Oct 2019, 17:31 Has anyone said "I think Tim would have a better chance" yet?
I think Reese might have a better shot too
Brilliant!!!

:lol:
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